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Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Valkyrja Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:14 pm
Who's the best atm ?
Are these guys on Messi/CR7 level ?
Are these guys on Messi/CR7 level ?
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by LeVersacci Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:26 pm
None are on the same level. Though Iniesta is the closest.
And still Iniesta nr 1
second is hard for me though i'm going with Özil
And still Iniesta nr 1
second is hard for me though i'm going with Özil
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Lord Hades Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:39 pm
iniesta is better overall
silva and ozil are on a similiar level, silva has had the better season but ozil has had the better 2012 and was more effective last season
silva and ozil are on a similiar level, silva has had the better season but ozil has had the better 2012 and was more effective last season
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Die Borussen Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:56 pm
atm
1. iniesta
2. ozil
3. silva
keep in mind ozil is 22 and they r 26-27 years old.
i say ozil will overcome iniesta in the next 3 years
but for the moment iniesta is better
1. iniesta
2. ozil
3. silva
keep in mind ozil is 22 and they r 26-27 years old.
i say ozil will overcome iniesta in the next 3 years
but for the moment iniesta is better
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Babun Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:51 pm
I love how people used Ozil's dip in form at the start of the season to hype Silva from donkey league 
Anyone who understands footy:
1. Iniesta
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2. Özil
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3. Silva
No kidding :lol!:
Anyone who understands footy:
1. Iniesta
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2. Özil
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3. Silva
No kidding :lol!:
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Die Borussen Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:59 pm
can any1 explain to me why some people call the BPL donkey league? 
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Babun Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:13 pm
Technical abilities of EPL midfielders are on an all time low at the momentdeadrave wrote:can any1 explain to me why some people call the BPL donkey league?
They look fantastic among themselves but as soon as you throw in a technically versed player, he'll stand out immediatly Cabaye and Yaya Toure boss that league
Most donkey league followers who rate Silva higher can't even imagine what Özil would do with his pace and huge gaps in space in donkey league. Either, they'd have to park the bus against him or eat through balls all day long
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by S Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:15 pm
All three are better than Cristiano Ronaldo..Not sure what the OP's on about 
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Die Borussen Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:28 pm
Surag wrote:All three are better than Cristiano Ronaldo..Not sure what the OP's on about
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by lszanto Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:31 pm
Iniesta
Silva
Ozil
I would take any of them over Ronaldo all day.
How can you not take a dip in form in regards to the ability of the player? Nobody cares if you can play like Messi one week then play like Heskey the next.
Silva
Ozil
I would take any of them over Ronaldo all day.
How can you not take a dip in form in regards to the ability of the player? Nobody cares if you can play like Messi one week then play like Heskey the next.
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by DuringTheWar Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:34 pm
Kamina wrote:Technical abilities of EPL midfielders are on an all time low at the momentdeadrave wrote:can any1 explain to me why some people call the BPL donkey league?
Cabaye and Yaya Toure boss that league
Most donkey league followers who rate Silva higher can't even imagine what Özil would do with his pace and huge gaps in space in donkey league. Either, they'd have to park the bus against him or eat through balls all day long
Well done for showing your lack of understanding. The epl is more physical and less technique based, this makes it a better achievement for a player like silva to still boss it. In the words of arsene wenger footballers are like musicians, you see a talented one and the best thing to do is put them together with other talented musicians where they will thrive together
If you have a talented player like silva playing in (as you put it) a donkey league, he is at a disadvantage to a player like ozil, who is in a league that plays to his strengths, rather than against them as in silvas case. Silva in essense has to swim against a tide, ozil is riding one, but still silva looks better!
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by guest7 Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:37 pm
How to win the donkey league
1. Buy all upcoming Spanish players/la liga
2. ?????
3. PROFIT!
100% proven working
Anyway, Iniesta is better than both. Silva is better than Özil
1. Buy all upcoming Spanish players/la liga
2. ?????
3. PROFIT!
100% proven working
Anyway, Iniesta is better than both. Silva is better than Özil
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Die Borussen Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:39 pm
lszanto wrote:Iniesta
Silva
Ozil
I would take any of them over Ronaldo all day.
How can you not take a dip in form in regards to the ability of the player? Nobody cares if you can play like Messi one week then play like Heskey the next.
even if you take all the three of them still chelsea will suck balls with AVB coaching
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by lszanto Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:40 pm
deadrave wrote:lszanto wrote:Iniesta
Silva
Ozil
I would take any of them over Ronaldo all day.
How can you not take a dip in form in regards to the ability of the player? Nobody cares if you can play like Messi one week then play like Heskey the next.
even if you take all the three of them still chelsea will suck balls with AVB coaching
? Whatever you say mate...
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Babun Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:41 pm
I'm talking about the current opinion poll which was formed 1-2 months agolszanto wrote:Iniesta
Silva
Ozil
I would take any of them over Ronaldo all day.
How can you not take a dip in form in regards to the ability of the player? Nobody cares if you can play like Messi one week then play like Heskey the next.
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Babun Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:49 pm
A qualified answerDiego Armando Maradona wrote:Kamina wrote:Technical abilities of EPL midfielders are on an all time low at the momentdeadrave wrote:can any1 explain to me why some people call the BPL donkey league?
Cabaye and Yaya Toure boss that league
Most donkey league followers who rate Silva higher can't even imagine what Özil would do with his pace and huge gaps in space in donkey league. Either, they'd have to park the bus against him or eat through balls all day long
Well done for showing your lack of understanding. The epl is more physical and less technique based, this makes it a better achievement for a player like silva to still boss it. In the words of arsene wenger footballers are like musicians, you see a talented one and the best thing to do is put them together with other talented musicians where they will thrive together
If you have a talented player like silva playing in (as you put it) a donkey league, he is at a disadvantage to a player like ozil, who is in a league that plays to his strengths, rather than against them as in silvas case. Silva in essense has to swim against a tide, ozil is riding one, but still silva looks better!
People with supreme first touch can avoid the closing down that happens in EPL. Özil wouldn't have any problems just like Silva. They can gain time and avoid challenges, it's in their nature. Silva excells more at close ball control and dribbling but he won't go anywhere far with it because his pace is average. His passing is accurate but most of the time chips or lobs through mid air.
Now, the case of Özil. He dribbles less and has worse close control but if he goes past his marker, he'll cause a lot of damage. The area Özil covers is insane, just watch any RM match, our defender could hoofball from half the field, Özil would still get it starting from midfield and mostly with one touch. his first touch is superior to Silva's and very different. He uses it to set himself apart from his markers with his pace. Silva does it to stop the ball and pass as soon as possible. Özil is in no need to pass immediatly, he can pick up the passing lines or move somewhere for better perspectives.
Özil does a huge amount of off ball or offside line runs which brings 2-3 players out of position. Silva can't do it by his nature.
If you understood what I'm talking about you'd notice what Özil would do in EPL
Silva is a great player but he isn't capable of things Özil is but Özil can do almost everything Silva does and much more Last but not least, Özil's through balls are fast on the ground unlike Silva passes, they leave little time to react
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Lord Awesome Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:07 pm
Silva was fantastic with Valencia and that goes for Mata as well.
I still rate Ozil better than both Mata and Silva but not by much, tbh.
What the flip is Iniesta doing here? He's a tier above the others mentioned, IMO.
I still rate Ozil better than both Mata and Silva but not by much, tbh.
What the flip is Iniesta doing here? He's a tier above the others mentioned, IMO.
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Sushi Master Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:48 pm
Özil at Arsenal 
Come on Madrid, you know Granero >>>>>>>> Özil because he's Spanish and cantera.
Come on Madrid, you know Granero >>>>>>>> Özil because he's Spanish and cantera.
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Mamad Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:51 pm
Lord Hispano wrote:
What the flip is Iniesta doing here? He's a tier above the others mentioned, IMO.
Come on he isn't Messi....
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Re: Iniesta, Silva and Ozil
by Aensensen Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:09 am
well, to be honest I haven't seen Silva play that much this season but I think Iniesta deserves the 1st spot. Then as you which - Ozil,Silva; or Silva.Ozil__
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