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Post by The Messiah Thu 08 Sep 2011, 23:00

Philip Lahm has played in every single match in all competitions for Bayern Munich for the past three seasons.
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Post by Dr. Percival Faust Thu 08 Sep 2011, 23:27

Yes, every match after the 0-4 against Barcelona in the CL.

He was injured during that game and was replaced by Christian Lell of all people. Lell vs Messi - as soon as I saw the formations, I knew the game would be a catastrophe for Bayern.

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Post by Sushi Master Thu 08 Sep 2011, 23:44

Iron Man. Jet engines for lungs.
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Post by The Messiah Thu 08 Sep 2011, 23:51

Lets add National team appearance to that.

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Post by Ganso Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:03

Lahm:
127 ball contacts (played 90 minutes)
94.00% (94) completed passes, 6.00% (6) misplaced passes
20.00% (3) won tackles, 80.00% (12) lost tackles

20% of successful tackles last game Shocked

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Post by la bestia negra Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:04

Ganso wrote:Lahm:
127 ball contacts (played 90 minutes)
94.00% (94) completed passes, 6.00% (6) misplaced passes
20.00% (3) won tackles, 80.00% (12) lost tackles

20% of successful tackles this season Shocked

credit to Rwo

i belive you were decieved thoose stats are from yesterdays game
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Post by EarlyPrototype Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:04

Poor mans Marvelo. :vagi:
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Post by VivaStPauli Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:06

You are suffering from being deceived. They're stats from one match.

Lahm hasn't been at his best this entire season though, yes. Also he has been awful since the winter break. Let's hope he'll get back to his best. Which is being the best. While also being humble and respectful.
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Post by izzy Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:07

Honestly, he has been more attack minded than I've seen him before.
He's leaving a lot of space behind him and making Bayern vulnerable to the counter. Not as defensively sound as in previous seasons.

Still, It's all Badstubers fault and Lahm is still the best fullback in the game.
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Post by Ganso Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:09

edited it.Lahm defensively solid? 3463pg0
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Post by la bestia negra Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:14

izzy26 wrote:

Still, It's all Badstubers fault and Lahm is still the best fullback in the game.
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Post by Sushi Master Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:25

Remember he's in his transition period. Name me another fullback than can pull off both flanks without too much problems. Yes, he hasn't been his best, and yes, he's had some pretty shitty games, but take into account he's on his weaker foot and will take at least a season to fully adapt.

Also, he's never frakking injured and plays every goddamn game. Pretty much a German Zanetti.
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Post by rwo power Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:28

izzy26 wrote:Still, It's all Badstubers fault and Lahm is still the best fullback in the game.
With Lahm going onto expeditions into the oppositions' penalty box all the time, Badstuber actually has to take care of the space Lahm leaves open and his own job as CB, thus he's working for two. And even that he does pretty well!
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Post by S Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:31

I think Izzy was being sarcastic there.Razz
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Post by VivaStPauli Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:38

Lahm is still the best fullback out there, he just isn't on form. And he's still not bad, he's just very wing-backy ATM, to be perfectly honest I like him that way, primarily because it suits Germany well and I hardly give two sh*ts about Bayern.
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Post by izzy Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:39

Surag.Blueguy wrote:I think Izzy was being sarcastic there.Razz

Thumbs up

P.S. Lahm IS the best fullback in the game.
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Post by rwo power Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:41

Ah good. Sorry I misread that ^^

BTW, that means Stubsi is even better as he has to work for two and does that formidably Razz

As for Lahm - atm he looks more as if he wants to work as assistant winger. I'm waiting for the "back" part to show up more again. ^^
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Post by Le Samourai Sun 29 Jan 2012, 13:49

I've been a bit skeptical of Lahm's defense for a while now.....ever since Kazim-Kazim Richards tore him up at the Euro.....but at the moment I'm not convinced there's a better defender at LB than him.
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Post by Babun Sun 29 Jan 2012, 14:02

rwo power wrote:Ah good. Sorry I misread that ^^

BTW, that means Stubsi is even better as he has to work for two and does that formidably Razz

As for Lahm - atm he looks more as if he wants to work as assistant winger. I'm waiting for the "back" part to show up more again. ^^
BAD-stuber had one proper outing. Let's see whether he'll stay consistent eco smile
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Post by VivaStPauli Sun 29 Jan 2012, 14:13

He had an entire proper season so far, he's been the most consistent defender of the Bundesliga so far, with Hummels messing up a couple times and Höwedes being injured.
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Post by Babun Sun 29 Jan 2012, 14:33

VivaStPauli wrote:He had an entire proper season so far, he's been the most consistent defender of the Bundesliga so far, with Hummels messing up a couple times and Höwedes being injured.
When he tackles his win rate in tackles is low. Combine it with his slow recovery speed when he messes up and you see some crucial danger situations. No defender is perfect but he has to make up for his shortcomings with other tricks. Tackle win rate is managable, 80%+ is a must for a top team defender Very Happy
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Post by VivaStPauli Sun 29 Jan 2012, 14:41

I'd be curious if there's actually more than like 3 defenders with consistently high tackle success rates of 80% and more.

And it also depends, a lot, on the kind of tackles you need to make and even attempt, which depends a lot on your positioning and how many through balls your midfield allows.

Stats are dangerous.
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Post by Babun Sun 29 Jan 2012, 14:43

VivaStPauli wrote:I'd be curious if there's actually more than like 3 defenders with consistently high tackle success rates of 80% and more.

And it also depends, a lot, on the kind of tackles you need to make and even attempt, which depends a lot on your positioning and how many through balls your midfield allows.

Stats are dangerous.
Errors in CB position even more. With a skilled guy like Diego Milito, each lost 1 on 1 was a goal eco smile
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Post by rwo power Sun 29 Jan 2012, 14:46

Kamina wrote:When he tackles his win rate in tackles is low. Combine it with his slow recovery speed when he messes up and you see some crucial danger situations. No defender is perfect but he has to make up for his shortcomings with other tricks. Tackle win rate is managable, 80%+ is a must for a top team defender Very Happy
Lahm defensively solid? Def11

Well, this table might surprise you. Where won tackles are concerned for the whole season so far, you find Badstuber actually even in front of Hummels. If you discount Merte (who only had 4 matches in the BL), Stubsi is actually in the top ranks there with his average of 67,80% won tackles in 19 matches.

Source: http://sportdaten.bild.de/sportdaten/verein/sp1/fussball/te209/bayern-muenchen/#sp1,co12,se7094,ro23042,md14,gm0,ma376974,pe0,te209,rl0,na1,nb6,nc1,nd1,ne1,jt0,aw209,ho21,


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Post by Babun Sun 29 Jan 2012, 14:48

I just saw the proof that the majourity of Bundesliga defenders are crap eco smile
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