Would BMG stand a chance against Barca?

VivaStPauli wrote:
Sadly, that's where BMG lack. They got a decent midfield, but nothing special. I think they could counter-attack brilliantly, but I don't see them taking the ball off Xavi or Iniesta.

For that you need one of the Bender twins. Those f*ckers are probably the next big thing in defensive DMs. They're like the lovechildren of Mark van Bommel and Bastian Schweinsteiger, those two.

Man, you German fans talk about these players and i never get to see them. I have not seen Dortmund or Lever.

Oh well, atleast i will watch one of them in the CL match now.

First of all when you are playing against fast counter attacking team it's not about tackling but more of fast defenders and discipline.

Why many people may blame Neuer for the first goal to some extent I blame Badstuber who put unnecessary pressure on Neuer. I've already explain this but if you watch the highlight you will notice how Badstuber spent so much time on the ball after Neuer pass the ball to him for him to distribute it before deciding to pass it back to Neuer when he was under pressure.

With that said, we conceded the other goals because Tymo was taken off which was another big mistake by Mediocre Jupp who already is playing two slow center back and another center back as a right back, who can not work well with our most valuable asset Arjen Robben.

Lastly Muller was having a terrible game, if anything he should have be substituted. Kroos left wing, back to Defensive Midfielder, Tymo taken of leaving two attacking minded Defensive midfielders, midfield can now be exploit. Alaba Left wing, Alaba taken to Right wing, Robben from left wing to right wing, trying to see if he can collect with Lahm,(why didn't he start Rafinha who works better with Robben as right back in the first place), Boateng taken off Rafinha playing alongside inexperience Alaba, Van Buyten taken off Midfielder Gustavo now playing as CB.

How do you expect to win a match with such tactics more or less coming back from a goal down, does he think it's easy for players to just switch around like they are playing Basket Ball or something...?

In conclusion two slow CB's plus 2 attacking minded Fullback with no defensive cover, if anything Bayern lost the match as a result of Bad tactics from a Mediocre coach, who already lost 5:0 to Jonker a reserve coach even when Bayern had injury problem at their worst and he had at his disposal full squad.

There is no way Mourinho or Pep will be that stupid and careless like what Jupp did in that match.

kiranr wrote:Faster transition = more counter-attacks = more chances. They do have a chance to score goals.
But can they stop Barcelona from scoring?

Good question. With ter Stegen they have the currently most on-form GK in the BL (this doesn't mean Neuer hasn't more class than ter Stegen still - but the latter really is in brilliant form atm), so it is not totally easy to score against them. Right now, BMG sports the best defense in the BL with only 12 goals against in 18 matches.

rwo power wrote:
Good question. With ter Stegen they have the currently most on-form GK in the BL (this doesn't mean Neuer hasn't more class than ter Stegen still - but the latter really is in brilliant form atm), so it is not totally easy to score against them. Right now, BMG sports the best defense in the BL with only 12 goals against in 18 matches.

Oh wow, that is actually awesome! I read somewhere that they were in the relegation spot last season? These BL teams are so volatile!

lol at the pepole slamming the nos


remmber euro 2004

kiranr wrote:Oh wow, that is actually awesome! I read somewhere that they were in the relegation spot last season? These BL teams are so volatile!

Indeed. BMG just barely escaped relegation via play-off games last season with a goal in injury time against the 3rd placed team of the 2nd BL.

Imagine, last season at matchday 18 they only had 13 points and were in the 18th and last place. Lucien Favre worked miracles when he took over. Marc-André ter Stegen and Marco Reus more or less kept BMG single-handedly in the Bundesliga.

che wrote:remember how germany was the perfect counterattacking team to stop spain at the world cup?

yeah...

Spain's goal came from a corner....

Tiki taka!!!

che wrote:remember how germany was the perfect counterattacking team to stop spain at the world cup?

yeah...

And if Kroos had scored, Germany would have been up 1:0. So yeah indeed.

i dont remember iker having to make that many saves in that match tbf.. was a tad dissapointed by germany after they humiliated argie and england ..

Yeah but Spain had more than twice as many shots, more than twice as many on target and more than twice as many in the box.

The Franchise wrote:Yeah but Spain had more than twice as many shots, more than twice as many on target and more than twice as many in the box.

That's right. But they only had one goal to count for it. *If* Kroos would have brought Germany up 1:0, then we could have played the proper counter attacks again. The matches against England and Argentina were mainly so devastating as we scored early goals. If Spain would have had to chase the game, things certainly would have looked differently, too. So IMO Spain was lucky that Kroos missed.

No, Spain dominated the game and if anything, Germany were lucky they didnt get a 3-0 banging.

Kroos could of scored first, but he didnt, so Spain didnt go a goal down.

Alot is made of Germany´s great counter attacking and it is exactly that, great. But notice, against England and Argentina was were they did it...two teams with NO midfield whatsoever. As soon as they came up against a midfield they couldnt get to or get past with ease, they came undone.

Yes, Germany counter well, but you cant counter if you cant win the ball and then break through the midfield.

Spain had the ball and when they didnt they pressed Germany and stopped it all before it begun. Kroos goal or no, that pattern was always going to happen and as I said, Spain were not the lucky ones in that game, it was Germany.

Well, but still Spain only managed to score one goal via a set-piece, so all their pressing wasn't too fruitful overall. ^^

Pressing isnt about scoring goals..its a tool to dominate possession, which in turn gives you chances to score and stops the opponant from scoring.

So, it was very fruitful.

Chances not being converted isnt much do about pressing.

Spain controlled the game so I agree with Franchise there but it at the same time you can't really ignore the fact that a corner decided the game in the end. Games at the very top are won and lost by very small margins.

On a different day Germany may have won, they had to tools.

Overall though Spain deserved their win so I don't think the Germans should have too many complaints about that score.

Paraguay on the other hand.... lol

Yes, a corner was the difference in the result (but not the game) but it doesnt make sense to say Spain´s style of play didnt work with Germany or Germany´s style worked on Spain.
Clearly, Spain were able to play how they wanted, Germany far from it. I dont agree on a different day Germany would of won, 9 times out of 10 it would be Spain, maybe more than that if the game went exactly the same. On a different day, Spain would of won by more.

The Franchise wrote: I dont agree on a different day Germany would of won, 9 times out of 10 it would be Spain, maybe more than that if the game went exactly the same. On a different day, Spain would of won by more.

this, exactly

Oh Jesus, the intelligent but naive German brigade is here to discredit our win against them in the WC.

Here is the simple fact, Espana dominated Germany in every possible aspect. Schweinsteiger was made to look like his brother Tobias while Alonso and especially the MOTM Xavi completely dominated Germany's and made the rest (Ozil, Khedira Poldi etc) chase shadows.

Outplayed 'em

If Kroos scored? Maybe if Villa and Pedro took their chances than yes. Or Torres for that matter.

Fact is I expected a better game from alemania and was a little underwhelmed. But it was understandable given the age of the team and how good VDB's team actually were.

That performance has given me great confidence in the chances of Barca vs Bayern.

Im confident anyway, but that performance for Spain vs Germany gives one a few things to take away.

While obviously not the same sides, the core issues with the game I feel can and would be translated from that game to Barca-Bayern.

How aren't we talking about the fact that Spain only scored 1 (one!) against a side fielding Trochowski?

Finishing of chances.

Not like they have any difficulties getting past Trochowski.

Exactly. Because Müller's missing. Boom.

I submit defeat.

Kroos and Muller would make the game very different from what you saw in the WC but the defensive issues still remain

What's so bad about a defence that only concedes 1 to Spain whil the entire team plays like a bunch of pussies?

Spain are by no means Barca.

Wehther they should try to be is a whole other argument but to me they will only ever be and extremely poor mans Barca while they have within them the potential to be much better.