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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:29 pm

Yeah blame the keepers...

Why not your players who have a hard time finishing?

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Post by Swanhends Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:58 pm

Spurs still laughable?

4 points ahead with 2 in hand
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Post by RealGunner Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:59 pm

form is temp etc
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:07 pm

anything that has gone on for over 3 months isnt temporary form though
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Post by McLewis Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:09 pm

It certainly ain't class either.

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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:14 pm

that saying doesnt even apply to them lol

all i know is that its not some kind of form they are on, they have been winning hard AND easy games and they havent lost many points, i can definately see them in top 4 come the end of the season
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Post by RealGunner Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:25 pm

what hard games have they won lol ?
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:30 pm

Fulham, Liverpool, Arsenal i mean they had a bad start losing to manchester city and united but they have been doing brill ever since
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Post by Raptorgunner Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:50 pm

aleumdance wrote:
RealGunner wrote:dont derail the thread

its not mate

people keep saying" wenger has the money".. everytime

but truth is we can't pay their wages, what is hard for people to remember there?

We must change our wages, we pay players like Diaby 60k and while players like RVP getting around 90k is not fair.
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Post by Lex Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:10 pm

Tottenham finally have a good patch of form after 19 years

Bring on the champagne banana
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:15 pm

i'll get the ice
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Post by poolsupporter Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:36 pm

First, while some of the players we bought are definitely big question marks, we considered wages in addition to the transfer price before purchasing. There was no way our owners were going to agree to get the likes of Aguero to Liverpool.

Secondly, all you guys hate on Downing so much yet he has created the most chances for us. If only the people at the end of those chances converted those chances, he'd get some recognition.

Third, I agree with some of the others. The first few times it was bad luck. With all the chances we have missed in so many games now, it's time to admit we have a problem finishing. Even some of the great saves are all down to us shooting straight at the keeper.



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Post by Zero Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:58 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:anything that has gone on for over 3 months isnt temporary form though

This.

Chances being wasted by the men in the final third are making life hard for your team. :facepalm:


In other news, Woy drew with City. Get in!
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Post by McAgger Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:29 am

It's one thing that our forwards suck ballz at finishing....but it's another thing when some of the chances we create go in 99% of the time for any other team but us.
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Post by Red Alert Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:06 am

RealGunner wrote:Gerrard is brilliant, has to be said. came on and created 5 chances on his own.


Only decent thing to come out of the game yesterday.

Anfield is cursed.
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Post by Bellabong Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:08 am

I blame Skrtl being at rightback and Macheda.
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Post by Red Alert Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:08 am

What?
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Post by RED Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:26 am

Kenny Dalglish is to blame for this. Spent 100 mill on a team that is no better than Roy Hodgson's. Atleast Roy Hodgson didn't have the backing of the board + had to deal with the whole takeover issue.

Carroll, Downing, Henderson and Adam were awful buys. Let's be real here. None of those signings were ever gonna propell you to a top 4 finish.

Only Saurez and Enrique have been good signings. Got this from Twitter also:

United: Last 2 games: 13 shots on target- 10 goals.
LFC: Last 2 games: 28 shots on target- 1 goal.

Shows you the difference in decisive play and being clinical in front of goal. LFC's attacking players have been poor this season when it comes to putting chances away (including Saurez)- the latter has good technique, but is never gonna bag you 20+ goals a season.

Newcastle, sold Carroll for 35 mill and replaced him with Ba on a free transfer. Ba has 14 goals this season and is 2nd top scorer in the league. Incredible bit of business by the Toon.
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:28 am

Devil-Is-Red wrote:Kenny Dalglish is to blame for this. Spent 100 mill on a team that is no better than Roy Hodgson's. Atleast Roy Hodgson didn't have the backing of the board + had to deal with the whole takeover issue.

Carroll, Downing, Henderson and Adam were awful buys. Let's be real here. None of those signings were ever gonna propell you to a top 4 finish.

Only Saurez and Enrique have been good signings. Got this from Twitter also:

United: Last 2 games: 13 shots on target- 10 goals.
LFC: Last 2 games: 28 shots on target- 1 goal.

Shows you the difference in decisive play and being clinical in front of goal. LFC's attacking players have been poor this season when it comes to putting chances away (including Saurez)- the latter has good technique, but is never gonna bag you 20+ goals a season.

Newcastle, sold Carroll for 35 mill and replaced him with Ba on a free transfer. Ba has 14 goals this season and is 2nd top scorer in the league. Incredible bit of business by the Toon.

Pretty much summed it up IMO. Don't think going all British was a good idea.

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Post by kiranr Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:57 am

Devil-Is-Red wrote:Kenny Dalglish is to blame for this. Spent 100 mill on a team that is no better than Roy Hodgson's. Atleast Roy Hodgson didn't have the backing of the board + had to deal with the whole takeover issue.

Carroll, Downing, Henderson and Adam were awful buys. Let's be real here. None of those signings were ever gonna propell you to a top 4 finish.

Only Saurez and Enrique have been good signings. Got this from Twitter also:

United: Last 2 games: 13 shots on target- 10 goals.
LFC: Last 2 games: 28 shots on target- 1 goal.

Shows you the difference in decisive play and being clinical in front of goal. LFC's attacking players have been poor this season when it comes to putting chances away (including Saurez)- the latter has good technique, but is never gonna bag you 20+ goals a season.

Newcastle, sold Carroll for 35 mill and replaced him with Ba on a free transfer. Ba has 14 goals this season and is 2nd top scorer in the league. Incredible bit of business by the Toon.

Why do you blame Henderson, Adam and Downing for lack clinical finishing?
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Post by RuthlesGangstaDef:villin Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:57 am

Liverpool had 20 shots off Target (fukin statisticians)
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Post by poolsupporter Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:13 am

Devil-Is-Red wrote:Kenny Dalglish is to blame for this. Spent 100 mill on a team that is no better than Roy Hodgson's. Atleast Roy Hodgson didn't have the backing of the board + had to deal with the whole takeover issue.

Carroll, Downing, Henderson and Adam were awful buys. Let's be real here. None of those signings were ever gonna propell you to a top 4 finish.

Only Saurez and Enrique have been good signings. Got this from Twitter also:

United: Last 2 games: 13 shots on target- 10 goals.
LFC: Last 2 games: 28 shots on target- 1 goal.

Shows you the difference in decisive play and being clinical in front of goal. LFC's attacking players have been poor this season when it comes to putting chances away (including Saurez)- the latter has good technique, but is never gonna bag you 20+ goals a season.

Newcastle, sold Carroll for 35 mill and replaced him with Ba on a free transfer. Ba has 14 goals this season and is 2nd top scorer in the league. Incredible bit of business by the Toon.

1 - Kenny is not all to blame for transfers. Carroll for example was a panic buy from the club. When someone like Torres leaves a team that isn't in the CL and doesn't look like getting there, who can the club buy? It was a panic buy that just hasn't panned out so far.

2 - I'm with you on Adam. Never rated him highly before he came and still don't. However, when someone like Lucas gets injured from the team, what do people expect? The amount of defensive work Lucas did, there is no way Adam was going to replace that work.

3 - I'd like you to clarify why Henderson was an awful buy. Note: Every interview and communication from Kenny and club have re-iterated the fact that the likes of Carroll and Jordan are long term buys. Were people expecting Jordan to put up Gerrard performances the first game he started?

4 - Carroll is still getting acclimated towards our style of play. It's taking him a long time, but we all hope he'll eventually get there.

5 - Suarez never going to hit 20+ goals a season? I'd argue that bit. He just needs to find his shooting boots and he'll be good. The problem is that he takes on too much by himself at the moment. The crap going on around him is not helping either.

6 - The biggest thing our team currently lacks is good chemistry. Most of the players almost never play the ball to Carroll on the ground. They barely involve him in attacks bar crossing and headers. Once that understanding builds up, I believe we should be able to score more.

With that said, it may never work, but I think most Liverpool supporters are willing to give it sometime. We are in the process of rebuilding. We were never going to win the league this year.
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Post by poolsupporter Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:21 am

As for transfers since Kenny has been appointed manager :

1) Suarez
2) Carroll
3) Downing
4) Adam
5) Enrique
6) Bellamy
7) Coates
Cool Henderson

One could argue about Carroll and Adam. Perhaps Jordan to an extent, but the rest have done decently as far as my expectations go.
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Post by Le Samourai Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:40 am

Don't really see the point of the Adam criticism..........cost 7 million(the tranfer fee of a certain Bebe I might add).......is at the very least an excellent squad player and at the most a deserving starter.

He's been a bit incosistent......but hey.......we didn't shell out 20 million for him and at least he's put in some very great performances and made a tangible effect on the team. If Andy had converted a couple of his corners you all would be signing a different tune.
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Post by Lord Hades Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:20 am

ragbirjosh wrote:Don't really see the point of the Adam criticism..........cost 7 million(the tranfer fee of a certain Bebe I might add).......is at the very least an excellent squad player and at the most a deserving starter.

He's been a bit incosistent......but hey.......we didn't shell out 20 million for him and at least he's put in some very great performances and made a tangible effect on the team. If Andy had converted a couple of his corners you all would be signing a different tune.

when did you become a liverpool fan?
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:22 am

diptiman wrote:
ragbirjosh wrote:Don't really see the point of the Adam criticism..........cost 7 million(the tranfer fee of a certain Bebe I might add).......is at the very least an excellent squad player and at the most a deserving starter.

He's been a bit incosistent......but hey.......we didn't shell out 20 million for him and at least he's put in some very great performances and made a tangible effect on the team. If Andy had converted a couple of his corners you all would be signing a different tune.

when did you become a liverpool fan?

I'm confused as well.

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