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Post by windkick Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:19 pm

cheesy wrote:Not really sure about this one to be honest. Neymar is a good prospect, however I do feel that he is slightly overrated. Villa may be out injured at the moment, although when he does return, he'd get into the team ahead of Neymar. Chances are, Neymar will be shifted out wide. He's a striker, though. We've seen the effect that can have on a player like Villa.

Ive seen Nerman play out on the left wing allot, which is where Barca would use him. It would be interesting to see what he develops in to, but not for that crazy amount of money

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Post by rsinatra Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:39 pm

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cheesy wrote:Not really sure about this one to be honest. Neymar is a good prospect, however I do feel that he is slightly overrated. Villa may be out injured at the moment, although when he does return, he'd get into the team ahead of Neymar. Chances are, Neymar will be shifted out wide. He's a striker, though. We've seen the effect that can have on a player like Villa.

Ive seen Nerman play out on the left wing allot, which is where Barca would use him. It would be interesting to see what he develops in to, but not for that crazy amount of money

Lol, a striker. Sure, but everyone in Brazil knows how good Neymar is on the wing, which is his original position. It seems like many of these barca fans haven't seen much of Neymar and therefore repeat what they've read.. most experts in Brazil agree that Barça would fit Neymar's style better than Real Madrid.
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Post by cheesy Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:42 pm

windkick wrote:
cheesy wrote:Not really sure about this one to be honest. Neymar is a good prospect, however I do feel that he is slightly overrated. Villa may be out injured at the moment, although when he does return, he'd get into the team ahead of Neymar. Chances are, Neymar will be shifted out wide. He's a striker, though. We've seen the effect that can have on a player like Villa.

Ive seen Nerman play out on the left wing allot, which is where Barca would use him. It would be interesting to see what he develops in to, but not for that crazy amount of money
He can play out on the left wing, however it's not his main position at the end of the day. I could see him being frustrated at not being the hub of the team.

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Post by Ganso Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:48 pm

rsinatra wrote:
windkick wrote:
cheesy wrote:Not really sure about this one to be honest. Neymar is a good prospect, however I do feel that he is slightly overrated. Villa may be out injured at the moment, although when he does return, he'd get into the team ahead of Neymar. Chances are, Neymar will be shifted out wide. He's a striker, though. We've seen the effect that can have on a player like Villa.

Ive seen Nerman play out on the left wing allot, which is where Barca would use him. It would be interesting to see what he develops in to, but not for that crazy amount of money

Lol, a striker. Sure, but everyone in Brazil knows how good Neymar is on the wing, which is his original position. It seems like many of these barca fans haven't seen much of Neymar and therefore repeat what they've read.. most experts in Brazil agree that Barça would fit Neymar's style better than Real Madrid.
and thats why i dont take the opinion of posters from here about Nerman seriously
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Post by rsinatra Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:56 pm

Ganso wrote:
rsinatra wrote:
windkick wrote:
cheesy wrote:Not really sure about this one to be honest. Neymar is a good prospect, however I do feel that he is slightly overrated. Villa may be out injured at the moment, although when he does return, he'd get into the team ahead of Neymar. Chances are, Neymar will be shifted out wide. He's a striker, though. We've seen the effect that can have on a player like Villa.

Ive seen Nerman play out on the left wing allot, which is where Barca would use him. It would be interesting to see what he develops in to, but not for that crazy amount of money

Lol, a striker. Sure, but everyone in Brazil knows how good Neymar is on the wing, which is his original position. It seems like many of these barca fans haven't seen much of Neymar and therefore repeat what they've read.. most experts in Brazil agree that Barça would fit Neymar's style better than Real Madrid.
and thats why i dont take the opinion of posters from here about Nerman seriously

yeah, one can only really take it seriously when they watch neymar every week or so like we do.. some people probably call him a ST because he was listed as one on FIFA 11 or something lol
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Post by Dnmac4 Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:04 pm

rsinatra wrote:
Ganso wrote:
rsinatra wrote:
windkick wrote:
cheesy wrote:Not really sure about this one to be honest. Neymar is a good prospect, however I do feel that he is slightly overrated. Villa may be out injured at the moment, although when he does return, he'd get into the team ahead of Neymar. Chances are, Neymar will be shifted out wide. He's a striker, though. We've seen the effect that can have on a player like Villa.

Ive seen Nerman play out on the left wing allot, which is where Barca would use him. It would be interesting to see what he develops in to, but not for that crazy amount of money

Lol, a striker. Sure, but everyone in Brazil knows how good Neymar is on the wing, which is his original position. It seems like many of these barca fans haven't seen much of Neymar and therefore repeat what they've read.. most experts in Brazil agree that Barça would fit Neymar's style better than Real Madrid.
and thats why i dont take the opinion of posters from here about Nerman seriously

yeah, one can only really take it seriously when they watch neymar every week or so like we do.. some people probably call him a ST because he was listed as one on FIFA 11 or something lol

I watch plenty of the Brazilian league and most of the games I see Santos is involved in especially in the last 6-8 months. I can say with out a shadow of a doubt that he would fit Real's system better then ours and I don't think it's even close.

IMO he would fit PERFECTLY into a Di Maria or Ronaldo role way better then he would a Pedro or Villa role. Again, I don't think it's even close as I don't know a better system in Europe for a player like him then Real.
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Post by Ganso Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:05 pm

he would fit perfectly into Villa's role imo
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Post by Le Samourai Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:06 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Deulofeu Sad

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Post by Le Samourai Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:07 pm

Ganso wrote:he would fit perfectly on the left next to Marcelo but he's too stupid to realise that

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Post by Ganso Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:10 pm

He will have no spot to start in madrid,he shouldn't go there.
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Post by Dnmac4 Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:10 pm

Real doesn't use CONSTANT pressure like Barca and pressing the ball the ENTIRE time they don't have it like Barca.

Pressing the opposition like Pedro and Sanchez does and Villa doesn't that well (one of the reasons he's not a great fit) is not at all Neymars game. In fact I don't know anytime I've watched him play where he chases the ball after his team gives it away.

Real rely's on there mids and defenders to get them the ball back not there forwards and then the feed it to there forwards, which is exactly the kind of system Neymar excels in.

For you guys to sit here and say we don't watch and that's why we think he wouldn't fit Barca's system is just wrong and short sighted.

I could very well say the same thing about you that you must not watch Barca play if you think Neymar is better fit for there system then Madrid's. And the pressing aspect is just one example.
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Post by FennecFox7 Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:12 pm

che wrote:can't wait till he finally moves to europe, gets his legs broken doing one of those stupid stepovers and we can stop talking about him
Well that's harsh..
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Post by Le Samourai Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:15 pm

che wrote:can't wait till he finally moves to europe, gets his legs broken doing one of those stupid stepovers and we can stop talking about him

If the Sheikh buys Valencia he could very well be one of your primary targets banana
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Post by Ganso Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:18 pm

dnmac4 wrote:Real doesn't use CONSTANT pressure like Barca and pressing the ball the ENTIRE time they don't have it like Barca.

Pressing the opposition like Pedro and Sanchez does and Villa doesn't that well (one of the reasons he's not a great fit) is not at all Neymars game. In fact I don't know anytime I've watched him play where he chases the ball after his team gives it away.

Real rely's on there mids and defenders to get them the ball back not there forwards and then the feed it to there forwards, which is exactly the kind of system Neymar excels in.

For you guys to sit here and say we don't watch and that's why we think he wouldn't fit Barca's system is just wrong and short sighted.

I could very well say the same thing about you that you must not watch Barca play if you think Neymar is better fit for there system then Madrid's. And the pressing aspect is just one example.
and who says he wouldn't press in barca?Sanchez didnt press at udinense either.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:24 pm

Ganso wrote:
and who says he wouldn't press in barca?Sanchez didnt press at udinense either.

what? He actually did, and with Chile under Bielsa as well, he showed he had not trouble with pressing.
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Post by Ganso Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:24 pm

i dont watch chile but in Udinense no he didnt...
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:35 pm

Afellay and Nerman will rotate until Deulofeu is slowly merged into the first team. Villa will be sold in summer of 2013.

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Post by Lord Awesome Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:38 pm

It was bound to happen. Neymar simply had more Barca characteristics, IMO.
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Post by Dnmac4 Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:39 pm

You can just watch Neymar play and see that's not his style or his game to be pressing and up in people's faces on defense.

When his team gives the ball away he doesn't kill himself to track back, he walks/jogs around a lot (theres nothing wrong with it) and he likes to stay away from playing any kind of defense. In 90% of teams they would like there attackers to play this way but it's not Barca's system, Ronaldo does a lot of the same thing.

As for Sanchez, he has always been way more active on the defensive end then Neymar at Chile and Udinese. There really is no comparison, and Chile does press to get the ball back,
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Post by Funkentelechy Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:42 pm

Lord Hispano wrote:It was bound to happen. Neymar simply had more Barca characteristics, IMO.

Xavi: Neymar has Barca DNA
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Post by Lord Awesome Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:49 pm

dnmac4 wrote:You can just watch Neymar play and see that's not his style or his game to be pressing and up in people's faces on defense.

That can be adjusted IMO.
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Post by Dnmac4 Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:57 pm

Lord Hispano wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:You can just watch Neymar play and see that's not his style or his game to be pressing and up in people's faces on defense.

That can be adjusted IMO.

Sure it can be, but it doesn't change the fact that he fits almost perfectly into Madrid's system and that is what the discussion is about. I believe he fits much better into Madrids system and style of play. More specifically in Di Maria or Ronaldo's role.

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Post by Lord Awesome Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:02 pm

dnmac4 wrote:
Lord Hispano wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:You can just watch Neymar play and see that's not his style or his game to be pressing and up in people's faces on defense.

That can be adjusted IMO.

Sure it can be, but it doesn't change the fact that he fits almost perfectly into Madrid's system and that is what the discussion is about. I believe he fits much better into Madrids system and style of play. More specifically in Di Maria or Ronaldo's role.


Messi to move to RW and Neymar in the middle. I can only speculate but if he arrives at Barca that would/should/could be his position. It's not like Messi tracks back as often.


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Post by Le Samourai Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:02 pm

dnmac4 wrote:
Lord Hispano wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:You can just watch Neymar play and see that's not his style or his game to be pressing and up in people's faces on defense.

That can be adjusted IMO.

Sure it can be, but it doesn't change the fact that he fits almost perfectly into Madrid's system and that is what the discussion is about. I believe he fits much better into Madrids system and style of play. More specifically in Di Maria or Ronaldo's role.

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Post by Lord Awesome Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:05 pm

ragbirjosh wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:
Lord Hispano wrote:
dnmac4 wrote:You can just watch Neymar play and see that's not his style or his game to be pressing and up in people's faces on defense.

That can be adjusted IMO.

Sure it can be, but it doesn't change the fact that he fits almost perfectly into Madrid's system and that is what the discussion is about. I believe he fits much better into Madrids system and style of play. More specifically in Di Maria or Ronaldo's role.

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He can do it bro. I've seen at that approxamate posistion at Santos.

Sinatra should clarify any doubt.
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Post by Le Samourai Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:08 pm

Di Maria is a wicked presser mate......Neymar dosen't have those lungs.........he canplay the position no doubt but if pressing is the problem.....the he definitely can't replace Di Maria


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