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Post by billionmillion Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:38 pm

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Post by The Madrid One Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:41 pm

they are not the same type of players, and you know what happened last time u created this thread.

nonsense
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Post by Slash Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:42 pm

this is blasphemy....

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Post by RealGunner Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:45 pm

you want us to take the video made by a messi fan, seriously ?

this video has 10% of what zidane actually did in his career.
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Post by The Madrid One Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:47 pm

as i said, this is unesscary, and ive seen the hate billionmillion has made on zidane.

this thread was obviously made for trolling purposes.
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Post by jibers Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:53 pm

Messi is better than Zidane, he is more effective and works harder. There is no denying it. hell Ronaldinho was better than Zidane. How this man is so iverrated is beyond me.
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Post by billionmillion Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:03 pm

Actually Zidane is maybe top 15 players ever, but Messi targets top-3. different type players, when you defended with 1 player against zidane today whole team defends against Messi
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:10 pm

jibers wrote:Messi is better than Zidane, he is more effective and works harder. There is no denying it. hell Ronaldinho was better than Zidane. How this man is so iverrated is beyond me.
I agree, Messi has otherworldly football talents

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Post by barcaloner90 Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:22 pm

Zidane finished his career in the second echelon of the pantheon of greats. Messi at the age of 23 is already there and I expect him to redefine the top tier and reside there all by himself by the time he's finished.

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Post by PedroBR Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:49 pm

LOL
Zidane was better than Messi
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Post by xabi Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:37 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
jibers wrote:Messi is better than Zidane, he is more effective and works harder. There is no denying it. hell Ronaldinho was better than Zidane. How this man is so iverrated is beyond me.
I agree, Messi has otherworldly football talents

are you serious? lionel bieber wouldnt be able to shine zizou's shoes

zizou all day
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Post by Guest Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:47 pm

Like comparing apples and oranges

THEY ARE DIFFERENT FRUITS!

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Post by Albiceleste Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:56 pm

xabi wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
jibers wrote:Messi is better than Zidane, he is more effective and works harder. There is no denying it. hell Ronaldinho was better than Zidane. How this man is so iverrated is beyond me.
I agree, Messi has otherworldly football talents

are you serious? lionel bieber wouldnt be able to shine zizou's shoes

zizou all day
Not sure who this Lionel Bieber fellow is, so I'm not sure.

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Post by the xcx Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:58 pm

Zizou>Messi. Messi vs Zidane  2859867778
Besides different players tho.
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Post by xabi Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:03 am

zizou was a champ, lead his france with pride through the worldcups and carried it on his shoulders. and lionel bieber? what I heard he did not even score in a world cup. this shouldnt even be up for debate..
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:11 am

xabi wrote:zizou was a champ, lead his france with pride through the worldcups and carried it on his shoulders. and lionel bieber? what I heard he did not even score in a world cup. this shouldnt even be up for debate..
He has scored in a world cup, don't talk outcha ass. Zidane carried France on his shoulders? LOL France had the likes Henry Trezeguet Makelele Thuram Blanc Pires and Barthez in 98 and Ribery Henry Trezeguet Makelele Vieira and Malouda, they were both team efforts

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Post by Yuri Yukuv Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:36 am

Cmon guys Messi is obviously better.

Zidane got 4-0'ed by germany in the WC quarter finals.

Messi carried his team with domenech as coach, to a WC final, WC victory and a Copa America cup.
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Post by the xcx Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:41 am

Yuri Yukuv wrote:Cmon guys Messi is obviously better.

Zidane got 4-0'ed by germany in the WC quarter finals.

Messi carried his team with domenech as coach, to a WC final, WC victory and a Copa America cup.
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:38 am

Yuri Yukuv wrote:Cmon guys Messi is obviously better.

Zidane got 4-0'ed by germany in the WC quarter finals.

Messi carried his team with domenech as coach, to a WC final, WC victory and a Copa America cup.
1 game that you played when you were 22 decides your career right? Atleast according to your logic.

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Post by xabi Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:40 am

drop it

zidane the legend>lionel bieber

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Post by Yuri Yukuv Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:44 am

Its the one game where he faced high pressure both mentally and physically. Something most greats have faced on a weakly basis. We just dont have that big of a sample to choose from. The man was born into a CL winning squad which constantly reached the finals, accommodated by a revolutionary coach and the best central midfielder of all time (who is partnered by a zidane level maestro according to billionmillion). There isnt much we cane judge him from except those games.
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:48 am

Yuri Yukuv wrote:Its the one game where he faced high pressure both mentally and physically. Something most greats have faced on a weakly basis. We just dont have that big of a sample to choose from. The man was born into a CL winning squad which constantly reached the finals, accommodated by a revolutionary coach and the best central midfielder of all time (who is partnered by a zidane level maestro according to billionmillion). There isnt much we cane judge him from except those games.
You think Messi has just played pressure free his entire career except for one game? Man oh man, so much wrong with this post I don't even know where to start. Barcelona reached the CL final 3 times in the past 5 years, Messi was an instrumental and a huge contributer to the team in 2 and was helped to reach the 2006 final. As well as scoring 2 times in 2 finals that he featured in.

Zidane was always partnered with greats, the France squads he was lucky to be apart of were riddled with great players and don't forget the galaticos of the early 2000s.

How can you try and downplay what Messi has done with that? Revolutionary coach, if he's changing the style of football shouldn't that make it harder to play in and adjust to?

Anyway by the time Messi is done with his career Pele and Maradona won't even be able to be compared with him, I'm sure of that

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Post by Yuri Yukuv Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:00 am

Well you are basing everything off potential which is fine, this isnt finance though where we can claculate future value back to the present this is real life. The pressure he has faced was not taken up solely by him but rather the whole team in which every single member of the starting 11 is a top 5 player in the world and the most revolutionary coach along with spaletti since sacchi. Even in those instances he did not take up the role of the leader dictating play or something of that caliber, rather he was always the wonder kid. In the last 5 high pressure (both mentally and physically) I do not remember messi owning up to it. Germany vs Argentina (without his teammates and coach), Real Madrid vs Barcelona liga and CDR, CL until the pepe sending off (Man Marking), Intermilan vs Barcelona (Home & Away, excepting being so kind to be maicons dentist). I might even include the chelsea game away as well. I remember seeing him crying in the world cup, seeing him being violent in the inter game, shooting the ball at the crowd in the real madrid game and so on.

The france squad was great in the defence aspect but it was severly lacking in creativity, zidane essentially had enough creativity to overcome the problems of the attack which was something really great. Thats a big reason they failed severly without him. France was like a great looking car with no engine and no direction, zidane gave them that. The galacticos were an overrated team, they had great individual talent and were amazing at marketing themselves however they were never tailored to be a winning team. They were without zidane a cheap copy of the Madridsmo team of 1996-2002. The fact that he could win a champions league with them is astonishing, when the man stopped giving as much because of age in 2005 the team fell apart. Whereas in the previous years they won a CL, league title, a semi they lost out because he wasnt there and a burnout of an aging team chasing a treble in 2004 that saw the team dumped out on away goals in the CL, too tired for the final of the CDR and lose many consecutive games in the final matchdays of the league.
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:50 am

You don't think Champions League finals and knockouts aren't high pressure? Just because he didn't score while Pepe was on the pitch doesn't mean he was asleep. Messi is a leader by example but I would not call him a wonder kid, he's a man and the best football player in the world right now.

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Post by Khaled Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:52 am

PedroBR wrote:LOL
Zidane was better than Messi
why?what did Zidane do & messi can't do?

simple question lol Twisted Evil
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