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Post by Babun Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:42 am

Today, the infamous Borussia derby will find place at signal Iduna park. Reus vs. Goetze duel is mouth watering eco smile Both teams defeated Bayern convincingly= 3rd place banana
Bayern on the other hand will have to see off SV Bremen at home .In other words, the top four will batter each other eco smile

What are your table predictions at the end of the day? eco smile

1. Borussia Dortmund-----------------29

2. Borussia mönchengladbach--------29

3. Bayern Munich----------------------28

4. SV Werder Bremen----------------.26


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Post by InterMalia Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:45 am

B Mongablahdbabdhambaach on top at the end of the day :dance:
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Post by Babun Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:47 am

InterMalia wrote:B Mongablahdbabdhambaach on top at the end of the day :dance:
It would be funnier if Bayern move to 4th place with a defeat eco smile
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Post by InterMalia Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:49 am

Bayern losing momentum, who would've thought they would struggle without Piggie. eco smile (my first green smiley)
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Post by S Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:52 am

Dortmund are at home so i think this will be a draw.

And Bayern will win convincingly against Bremen.

Which means Bayern will be on top at the end of this matchday. eco smile
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Post by Babun Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:52 am

InterMalia wrote:Bayern losing momentum, who would've thought they would struggle without Piggie. eco smile (my first green smiley)
Green is the way to go : :lol!:
Realistically, they'll move one place up if either of the Borussias win. A draw between them and a win against Bremen would see them first all of the sudden eco smile
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Post by schwarzgelb Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:58 am

marco reus has broken his toe Sad shame cause i was looking forward to this
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Post by Adit Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:59 am

what happened to Bayern?

Werent thy supposed to be best team in the world according to many? Surprised
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Post by Babun Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:01 pm

schwarzgelb wrote:marco reus has broken his toe Sad shame cause i was looking forward to this
BVB are so freakin' lucky. First, piggy (Schweinsteiger) was out for weeks and now Reus injured... eco smile
Gladbach will still manage somehow. I like the way they attack the best Very Happy
Adit wrote:what happened to Bayern?

Werent thy supposed to be best team in the world according to many? Surprised
Bundesliga was supposed to be a one team league eco smile
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:03 pm

As long as the Borussia derby does'nt end a draw iam happy Very Happy

Got a bet with RWO eco smile
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Post by S Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:06 pm

Open the chatbox !!!!
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:07 pm

rosenborg to score against bayern munich, mark my words
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Post by Babun Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:50 pm

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Post by Sushi Master Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:58 pm

Arangod :bow:

Ribéry already scored. Doubt Bremen will take anything from here.
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Post by rwo power Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:45 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:As long as the Borussia derby does'nt end a draw iam happy Very Happy
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You just want to heap more misery on me than I already have with my Almunia ava?
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Post by The Messiah Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:47 pm

Badstuber is a failure
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Post by Bellabong Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:23 pm

Surag.Blueguy wrote:Dortmund are at home so i think this will be a draw.

And Bayern will win convincingly against Bremen.

Which means Bayern will be on top at the end of this matchday. eco smile

halamadrid2 wrote:rosenborg to score against bayern munich, mark my words

You psychics you.
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Post by The Messiah Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:00 pm

Phritz wrote:
Surag.Blueguy wrote:Dortmund are at home so i think this will be a draw.

And Bayern will win convincingly against Bremen.

Which means Bayern will be on top at the end of this matchday. eco smile

halamadrid2 wrote:rosenborg to score against bayern munich, mark my words

You psychics you.

I think I am about to become a millionaire, We need to discuss, I have some betting to make...
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Post by Geo Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:06 am

Yea it was.

Sooner or later, we was going to make it.
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Post by rwo power Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:22 am

Idrisozet wrote:Badstuber is a failure
If you are able to read German (or you can hope that Google translation doesn't fail too much), you should read the market value analysis of him at transfermarkt.de - there are some really interesting bits of discussion about what exactly makes him so valuable: http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/badstuber-holger-13-mio-fc-bayern-muenchen/topic/ansicht_67_207122_seite1.html

Here are direct links to some interesting insights:

http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/badstuber-holger-13-mio-fc-bayern-muenchen/topic/ansicht_67_207122_seite3.html#p418178

http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/badstuber-holger-13-mio-fc-bayern-muenchen/topic/ansicht_67_207122_seite4.html#p418546

http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/badstuber-holger-13-mio-fc-bayern-muenchen/topic/ansicht_67_207122_seite5.html#p419360
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Post by The Messiah Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:31 am

rwo power wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:Badstuber is a failure
If you are able to read German (or you can hope that Google translation doesn't fail too much), you should read the market value analysis of him at transfermarkt.de - there are some really interesting bits of discussion about what exactly makes him so valuable: http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/badstuber-holger-13-mio-fc-bayern-muenchen/topic/ansicht_67_207122_seite1.html

I Watch Bayern game everyday, I might not be an expert but judging from I see everyday and what other Bayern fans see everyday and what those expert also see, (it's not like they watch different match or do they..?) he has no talent or value or whatsoever, Rosenberg completely owned him and twist and turned him inside out before scoring yesterday...

How do you consider a defender like this valuable....?


or this

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Post by Geo Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:53 am

EDIT, wrong thread.. LOL
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Post by The Messiah Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:59 am

The author is totally writing BS, I haven't seen any Badstuber pass that was so amazing that it led to goal, his not even a Sweeper or libero like his trying to make him look, the only thing I got out of there is someone trying to pretend and hype Badstuber..

Badstuber simply can not defend and Bayern do not need a defender who can not defend even though he can pass
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Post by ELO Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:22 am

Badstuber had indeed some very good offensive moments once in a while, but he often fails under pressure. i dont think he's Bayern/NT material... i might be wrong but i dont think he will ever considered worldclass...
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Post by rwo power Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:24 am

Well, I agree he didn't look good against Rosenberg, but also again it was pretty much a collective defensive failure starting with Van Buyten when the ball entered the scene and he wasn't managing to control it.

The point that was made in the above mentioned transfermarkt.de thread is that Badstuber and Hummels, who underwent pretty much the same education, are a somewhat different kid of defender with a somewhat more playmaking outlook. Someone there made a statistic about "pre-assists", that is the passes actually leading to assists, and there Badstuber was far in the lead, so his ability to open play in a way that leads to goals or at least goal-chances is not to be underestimated. From what I gathered from interviews with the coaches, it is pretty much that kind of playing intelligence plus anticipation that makes them choose Badstuber over other, more classical looking and acting defenders.

And you can't deny that pretty much all coaches who have/had him in their team put him into their starting eleven over all other options they had, and that can't be because he is such a failure as you claim. ^^

And about failing under pressure - he is far more stable in that respect than for example Hummels, who has always crumbled in high profile (international) matches (look at EL in the former season, CL this season and even some NT matches).
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