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Post by Sushi Master Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:59 pm

Right now, Schweini, Vidal and Marchisio are good shouts.

Gerrard back in the day, definitely. Also Viera was very complete, even though he doesn't score too much.

Up and coming? Maybe Kroos.

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Post by Guiltybystander Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:59 pm

De Rossi, Sneijder, Schweini, VDV
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Post by RealGunner Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:59 pm

Oh crap how can i forget Gerrard

Gerrard :bow:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:01 pm

Guthrie :bow:
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Post by guest7 Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:04 pm

Xabi is the highest goalscorer after Villa in Spain (this spain team)

He did score more in his pool days from his own half but in Madrid he doesn't have the same role imo

Also losing your marker and being a dribbler doesn't define a attacker. If that's the case then Chicharito isn't one.

Also RG does Schweini do these passes? If your passes attacks the other team then it counts and Alonso (and Schweini) does these passes all the time, he does create chances from deep jsut not everyone scores them. It has happened though
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:07 pm

Schweini can destroy tho.......

Xabi or Pirlo cant.
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Post by guest7 Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:10 pm

Has the third highest ball interceptions in Real Madrid team

If that isn't destroying then what is? He defends alot for RM and that is a well known thing. He is complete imo
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Post by Sushi Master Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:14 pm

Watch a Germany match with Schweini beside Khedira. That midfield is a fortress.

Xabi's good, but is way too reckless in his tackles.
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Post by Yeezus Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:17 pm

You guys say Gerrard, then Essien deserves a shout.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:19 pm

omarish wrote:Has the third highest ball interceptions in Real Madrid team

If that isn't destroying then what is? He defends alot for RM and that is a well known thing. He is complete imo

He cant score either or look dangerous in goalscoring positions......

The only goals he scores are penalties lol......

You make a good point about the intercepting thing, but imo he is'nt complete.....

He doesnt look dangerous going forward, he intercepts and controls the tempo and starts attack from half way line.....

As i said before the 3 things i look for are destroying, creating and scoring( looking dangerous going forward)

Alonso and Pirlo dont tick all 3 boxes imo.

If you feel they do then more power to you, but in my personal opinion they dont.
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Post by Sushi Master Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:20 pm

Andres Iniesta wrote:You guys say Gerrard, then Essien deserves a shout.
Essien hasn't been good since like 2008 or something, though.

Back in the day he was a beast I gotta agree.
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Post by guest7 Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:21 pm

If we look at the past then Ballack deserves a mention aswell
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:23 pm

Essien was never complete imo......

He did'nt really create or score although he did destroy and pressurize with the best of them.....

Ballack was one of the most complete players of the last 20 years so i agree lol.
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Post by RealGunner Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:26 pm

Vieira was the most complete in the last 20 for me
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:27 pm

RealGunner wrote:Vieira was the most complete in the last 20 for me

Why i said "one of", i didnt want to upset you Razz
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Post by Guest Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:27 pm

Vieira was ridiculous. He could play any midfield role and did. With Arsenal, he played them all at the same time lol.

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Post by Arquitecto Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:01 pm

in order:

1. Steven Gerrard (most complete player in Europe)
2. Bastian Scwiensteiger/Danielle De Rossi
3. Sneijder.
4. Claudio Marchisio.

Honorable mention: Xavi and Pirlo.
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Post by Yeezus Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:21 pm

^ Sneijder?

Boy can defend?

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Post by Ganso Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:22 pm

A shout out to hernanes
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Post by DRK Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:23 pm

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Post by Yeezus Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:23 pm

What bout Cambiasso?

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Post by Gil Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:29 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Essien was never complete imo......

He did'nt really create or score although he did destroy and pressurize with the best of them.....

Ballack was one of the most complete players of the last 20 years so i agree lol.

No need to rewrite history mate. Essien is obviously finished now but he was a total beast in his peak.

Reckon he would have come out on top against Viera in his prime.


Agree with the last part. Easily the most complete player of his generation.
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Post by BeautifulGame Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:33 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Guthrie :bow:

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Post by Dnmac4 Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:36 pm

Yaya is up there and I'm kind of surprised no one has mentioned Cesc, I know his defensive skills are a bit lacking but between his link up play, final balls, and goal scoring he is about as complete as they come.

I love that people are mentioning Ballack and in the future I think Javi Martinez will be up there.

I also agree with Marchisio and Bastian.

Some people may laugh but someone who is putting it all together IMO and really is starting to be very well rounded is Prince-Boateng for Milan. I love his game.
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:39 pm

omarish wrote:Has the third highest ball interceptions in Real Madrid team

If that isn't destroying then what is? He defends alot for RM and that is a well known thing. He is complete imo
Third highest in the team is not great, especially as in a defensive midfield position, I don't consider Xabi complete

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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:40 pm

Can Hernanes destroy?
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