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Post by Mamad Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:01 pm

During Islamic Republic era US never supported Iran. don't even try Yuri.

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Post by Yuri Yukuv Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:06 pm

So Iran contra never happened?

All the iranian deals with israel didnt happen?

Lets not mention how if Israel did not bomb Osirak Saddam Hussein would probably be your president today cheers
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Post by Shamirr Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:12 pm

Lol Ayatollah Khomeini had been dead for over 20 years... Now if you mean Ayatollah Khamenei then I Kinda see your point...

Who really needs to go is Ahmadinejad, That f$cker is crazy! If he has nukes the world really isn't safe...
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Post by Mamad Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:53 pm

@Shamirr : Ahmadinejad is the man smoking , he got balls. but he isn't the person who can order bombing other countries.

@Yuri : Seriously you are saying Israeil saved Iran against Iraq??? Iran deals with Israel?? i'm done because you are saying some things that are completely wrong. no discussion.


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Post by The Messiah Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:42 pm

Mamad wrote:@Shamirr : Ahmadinejad is the man smoking , he got balls. but he isn't the person who can order bombing other countries.

@Yuri : Seriously you are saying Israeil saved Iran against Iraq??? Iran deals with Israel?? i'm done because you are saying some things that are completely wrong. no discussion.



Just be the bigger man an leave him alone, there is no point in having a dialogue with him when he knows exactly what his doing.
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Post by zizzle Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:57 pm

lol i have to agree, you have more a better chance at convincing a wall of your point than you do with yuri
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Post by Pedram Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:03 pm

Well i'm not sure if Yuri is trolling or serious but saying that Israel was Iran's ally during Iraq/Iran war has to be one the most absurd thing i've ever read. Iran don't even recognize them as a country, how they were supposed to be our ally ? get a clue FFS :facepalm:
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:11 pm

I never said that the islamic republic was our or the israelis ally.

But you cant deny that the israelis were business partners of the iranians for a while and that the US conducted business with Iran as well.

Thats politics, its always about changing alliances to whatever suits your needs. Mamad was pretending that Iran is better than the USA and is holier than thou because it didnt deal with different people unlike the united states. According to history thats completely wrong.

Actually, historically speaking the united states regarded Iran as its most important ally in the middle east and the designated deputy sherrif in the region.Well until the revolution happened and the new regime witheld our diplomats as hostages.

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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:59 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15936213

Students burn down British flag and storm the embassy. Its getting ridiculuous. I wonder if that Ahmanidejad's lobbied brigades operating.
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:38 pm

Why does Iran need nuclear weapons anyways, is not like anyone is crazy enough to use them. Iran has to get ride of the crazy president and all the crazy mullah who are destroying Iran.
Instead of using all the money to Arm themselves, they should be helping the people and the dumb-ass laws they have there.

I know many Iranians in Canada and they all hate the regime and are hoping for the day this regime is removed from Iran. So much brain wash is going in Iran, all the military power and training they do and tell themselves they are ready for war with American, they must be out of their mind. American will demolish middle east if they ever go to war, religion should not run a country. All those mullah have save millions of dollar and been sleeping with young girls and punish those who go against them.

If it was not for America the world would have been *bleep*. Please don't take this the wrong way I don't have anything against Iran and dont want any wars.
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:49 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15936213

Students burn down British flag and storm the embassy. Its getting ridiculuous. I wonder if that Ahmanidejad's lobbied brigades operating.

Yes I was reading this today, just sad. :facepalm:. For sure it had to be some extremist who were paid buy the mullahs to go over there and do this. Its a crime and Iran must answer to this. This is just childish what is wrong with them really?
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Post by TalkingReckless Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:55 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:Why does Iran need nuclear weapons anyways, is not like anyone is crazy enough to use them. Iran has to get ride of the crazy president and all the crazy mullah who are destroying Iran.
Instead of using all the money to Arm themselves, they should be helping the people and the dumb-ass laws they have there.

they never said they wanted nuclear weapons..... only the US and EU say that.... Iran wants Nuclear power....not weapons....

two different things.....
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:06 pm

imalegend wrote:
Raptorgunner wrote:Why does Iran need nuclear weapons anyways, is not like anyone is crazy enough to use them. Iran has to get ride of the crazy president and all the crazy mullah who are destroying Iran.
Instead of using all the money to Arm themselves, they should be helping the people and the dumb-ass laws they have there.

they never said they wanted nuclear weapons..... only the US and EU say that.... Iran wants Nuclear power....not weapons....

two different things.....

I dont trust either one or the media I just don't want anymore wars. The Iran people would suffer and would take years to recover. They should come out and prove the world what they are doing is for good purpose and let the UN inspector go in and there when ever they want. I believe the war in the middle east could be over if Iran becomes friends with USA.

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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:22 pm

Both sides are using lies.

It d be naive to think Iran needs nuclear power just for scientifical and economical purposes. The country, cant deny it, despite recent unsatisfaction of masses with government, is radical. Its elite is radical. Thats the problem. USA fears of strike against Israel and massive conflict in the region. That can lead to disastrous consequences.

US and UN are also lying, despite Iran not being trustworthy for global community, it is antagonised in Western media and has an information war against it, labelled as axis of evil, etc.




1) Situation 1: Sanctions will do the thing, and Iran stops nuclear development, or at least compromises smh with US on it

2) Situation 2: Another color revolution like in Lybia, Egypt and Tunisia. However, Iran is harder to crack for Western intelligence agencies than ones listed, esp when all 3 listed were neutral/friendly to US (even Qaddaffi)

3) Situation 3: A strike. That can possibly just trigger the major conflict that will escalate in something massive, esp when Iran possesses far superior weaponry in comparison with Libya, Iraq, etc
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Post by zizzle Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:44 pm

Im not overestimating the power of Iran but no one wants to go to war with them, except maybe for Israel who's recent history of military failures speaks volumes about their incompetancy, at least when it comes to decision making.
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Post by Grande_Milano Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:34 pm

zizzle wrote:Im not overestimating the power of Iran but no one wants to go to war with them, except maybe for Israel who's recent history of military failures speaks volumes about their incompetancy, at least when it comes to decision making.

Yuri coming in 1...2...3...
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Post by zizzle Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:49 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:
zizzle wrote:Im not overestimating the power of Iran but no one wants to go to war with them, except maybe for Israel who's recent history of military failures speaks volumes about their incompetancy, at least when it comes to decision making.

Yuri coming in 1...2...3...


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Post by Yuri Yukuv Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:28 pm

Failures?



Lay off the kool aid kid
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Post by zizzle Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:44 pm

RECENT ?



ps: 67 should never be mentioned without 73. just sayin
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:13 pm

Lol, they destroyed the whole infrastructure of your country back in 2006.

Destroyed a bunch of syrian bases as well.
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Post by zizzle Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:47 pm

Israel supposidly have one of the strongest armies in the world and they failed to destroy a 10,000 man militia ? what kind of success is that ? their air force failed to stop the rocket launchers, their intelligence failed to locate the leadership of the enemy (not to mentioned providing wrong information more than once) their special forces failed 3 or 4 times in 1 month, their ground forces failed to penetrate deep into the Lebanese borders despite heavy support from the airforce. All they did was destroy bridges and kill civilians, my kool aid kid, is not success

gaza 09 ? same story, killed more civilians, destroyed more buildings, failed to stop the home made rockets, failed in targeting the leadership, failed in locating or retrieving their abducted soldier, so how is this success ?
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:51 pm

Dude, whoever suffers the most losses looses.

Israelis cant go and kill militias by foot soldiers because that would endanger the lives of the IDF alooooot more, they value them too much to do that.
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Post by RedOranje Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:52 pm

This turns into an Israel-Iran/whoever pissing contest and I'll lock the thread and knock everyone involved by 50%.
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Post by TalkingReckless Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:13 pm

a revolution like the ones in Libya and Egypt can't happen in Iran, or even Pakistan....these two area's are one of the most volatile in the world....

If a revolution in Iran happens, there was certainly be a Sunni-Shia war, with Saudi's backing the Sunni's and there will certainly be extremists moving from Afghanistan and Pakistan moving there....making Iran even more dangerous then it is....

and that creates even more problems for Pakistan, which is surrounded in this big mess, Tensions with India to the east, Afghanistan and Taliban to the West/North and Iran to the West.... the only country we have very good relationship with is China (only cause we let them have our resources and ports, and they hate India too)
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Post by zizzle Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:01 am

Yuri Yukuv wrote:Dude, whoever suffers the most losses looses.

Israelis cant go and kill militias by foot soldiers because that would endanger the lives of the IDF alooooot more, they value them too much to do that.


well the discussion isnt about who killed more (civilians implied) ,but rather who failed to meet the goals they set for themselves before going to war, and this is a form of failure


lets end this here before get on RedOrange's nerve
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Post by red&blacklegion Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:09 am

first of all,g its not chomeini!its khamenei !second, Israel has broke more international laws than any country, they refuse to join Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty ,they have around 200 nuclear warheads!and why do they need em ,because they were given land s that didnt belong to them ,whoever goes with history books and 3000 year old maps anyways?people used to live peacefully(jews,arabs ,muslims)there before European/us government pushed by zionist bankers decided to occupy those lands and name it Israel!killing thousands,dislocating 100s of thousands of people, building an apartheid wall,and putting sanctions on them! how do u expect arabs love em?
going back to irans discussion!Israel attacking iran would be a disaster.would israel do it?no,it will be huge risk for a small nation like israel.they will not risk putting such a huge danger for a non existing nuclear program!America and Israel should mind their own business !they talk about democracy and yet they are not democratic nations!
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