Re: Iran strike closer by day

by Yuri Yukuv Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:42 pm

Why would another muslim country do anything to the muslim holy sites? If an "Infidel" country invaded saudi arabia I can easily see what you are saying happen. Not if a mulim country though.

Zizzle just gave you his answer

zizzle wrote:
The Majority of the islamic world are not very found of the Saudi goverment for their allience with the United States.

We already saw the scenario of a muslim country threatening saudi arabia in the gulf war, I do not see what has fundamentally changed.

Tell me, what if Egypt (I know its unlikely) tries to invade saudi arabia tomorrow. Who will defend saudi arabia?

by 7amood11 Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:45 pm

imalegend wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
imalegend wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
imalegend wrote:
che wrote:
and as for saudi arabia, you raise a finger against them and you have america on your ass, i imagine the saudis are well aware of this and realize they don't have to fund their own nuclear program...

Forget America... if you raise a finger on Saudi's the whole Islamic Community will be on your as....

You are telling me if Iran/Turkey or Egypt invade Saudi Arabia muslim countries will come to the rescue?

Yeah we all saw that happening the gulf war

do you know what Saudi Arabia represents in Islam????Most of the Holy Islamic sites are located there are..... and people would put their life on the line to save them....

Guy, if another muslim nation invades saudi arabia I do not see anything more than a repeat of 1991.

well maybe because you don't jack shit... Saudi Arabia is birthplace of Islam... Millions of people go to Saudi Arabia just to visit religious sites in places like Mecca and Medina....and if anything happens to these sites you would have the warth of almost 1 billion upon you

Very true. Many of the Islamic religious sites are in Saudi Arabia, and if it was invaded, I can see many other Muslim countries coming to Saudi Arabia's aid.

by zizzle Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:45 pm

imalegend wrote:
zizzle wrote:
imalegend wrote:
che wrote:
and as for saudi arabia, you raise a finger against them and you have america on your ass, i imagine the saudis are well aware of this and realize they don't have to fund their own nuclear program...

Forget America... if you raise a finger on Saudi's the whole Islamic Community will be on your as....

The Majority of the islamic world are not very found of the Saudi goverment for their allience with the United States.

True, but because Saudi Arabia is a sacred place no Islamic Country would let anything bad happen to them...

Saudi Arabia is not a sacred place but it does contain the Majority of the islamic holy sites. Mecca and Medena are just two cities in Saudi, and granted that these cities would remain untouched in a war with another islamic state, then the Saudis would not be the side i cheer for.

edit: However, like Yuri pointed, any attack by a non muslim country on Saudi would be viewed as an attack on Islam. Lucky that wont happen as long as there's oil in Arabia.

by Yuri Yukuv Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:50 pm

Im pretty sure there are no military or political centres in Mecca or Madinah, if someone simply takes over the three major cities of Saudi Arabia they will control the whole place.

Middle eastern countries dont usually have decentralized centres of power like for example switzerland or the states.

by Mamad Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:57 pm

Israel's arms are a way of ensuring peace, iran's are not.

Sorry Yuri but This is the must stupid comment in Goallegacy's history.

Iran never attacked any country in 6000 year history. but Israeil? how many people they killed? how many country they attacked during their short history?

by Yuri Yukuv Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:04 pm

Mamad wrote:
Israel's arms are a way of ensuring peace, iran's are not.

Sorry Yuri but This is the must stupid comment in Goallegacy's history.

Iran never attacked any country in 6000 year history. but Israeil? how many people they killed? how many country they attacked during their short history?

Persians never waged war? Dont you remember this?

by zizzle Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:10 pm

lol thats the first thing that i thought of

but on a more serious note, at least in its Modern history Iran never attacked anyone (im not counting the first gulf war for obvious reasons)

by Sushi Master Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:17 pm

Iran didn't attack anyone there. Iraq invaded and even mustard gassed several Irani towns.

That's another point to add to the nuclear pros. Wars have been waged around you for generations, don't nukes sound nice so people stay the hell out of your lands?

by The Messiah Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:35 pm

I just want to ask a Simple question.

Has any country ever used atomic or Nuclear weapon against any other country....?

by Mamad Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:38 pm

Yuri Yukuv wrote:
Mamad wrote:
Israel's arms are a way of ensuring peace, iran's are not.

Sorry Yuri but This is the must stupid comment in Goallegacy's history.

Iran never attacked any country in 6000 year history. but Israeil? how many people they killed? how many country they attacked during their short history?

Persians never waged war? Dont you remember this?

you really think everything in this movie is based on truth? hilarious.

by Yuri Yukuv Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:42 pm

zizzle wrote:lol thats the first thing that i thought of

but on a more serious note, at least in its Modern history Iran never attacked anyone (im not counting the first gulf war for obvious reasons)

Well if we look at the era of the islamic republic we can see that they were involved in a war for 8 years out of the 33 they have been in power, they were also involved in many bombings/kidnappings and assassinations through their proxies. They have also been involved in holding an embassy hostage and threatening neighbors with military action and constant shows of power through widely publicized military shows, nuclear arms is also another thing.

Is Iran a threat for the individualistic capitalist democratic world? It certainly is

by Yuri Yukuv Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:42 pm

Mamad wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
Mamad wrote:
Israel's arms are a way of ensuring peace, iran's are not.

Sorry Yuri but This is the must stupid comment in Goallegacy's history.

Iran never attacked any country in 6000 year history. but Israeil? how many people they killed? how many country they attacked during their short history?

Persians never waged war? Dont you remember this?

you really think everything in this movie is based on truth? hilarious.

Isnt this actual footage? scratch

by Sushi Master Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:47 pm

Idrisozet wrote:I just want to ask a Simple question.

Has any country ever used atomic or Nuclear weapon against any other country....?

Only the US in WWII.

I love when people don't detect sarcasm Very Happy

The Persians were a big assed superpower back then.

Until Alexander came along. And then the Mongols.

by Yuri Yukuv Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:50 pm

Sushi Master wrote:
Idrisozet wrote:I just want to ask a Simple question.

Has any country ever used atomic or Nuclear weapon against any other country....?
Only the US in WWII.

I love when people don't detect sarcasm

The Persians were a big assed superpower back then.

Until Alexander came along. And then the Mongols.

Also the arabs and the ottomans

by Grande_Milano Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:20 pm

Yuri you are truly pro-Israeli.

by Yuri Yukuv Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:32 pm

Grande_Milano wrote:Yuri you are truly pro-Israeli.

Im not really, Id much rather the others in the middle east would evolve into democratic republican countries. Until that day happens Ill support the US protecting Israel. I think the US is not doing enough to educate the population there about the advantages of such a change, which is the more important part of the battle.

by Guest Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:08 am

Mamad wrote:
Israel's arms are a way of ensuring peace, iran's are not.

Sorry Yuri but This is the must stupid comment in Goallegacy's history.

Iran never attacked any country in 6000 year history. but Israeil? how many people they killed? how many country they attacked during their short history?

I guess Nader Shah was attacking my balls then when he went and conquered Afghanistan and India and shed load of goal, like 300 years ago. :brickwall:

And I can see a strike coming too. It has its positives and negatives IMO.

by kiranr Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:35 am

India is trying to build nuclear power stations.

Guess what, US wants their companies to get the contracts and are dismayed that India wants to push the liability on their firms.....

Sanctions were imposed on India too when we tested nuclear weapons, but they were lifted later because we have such a lucrative market.

Now the US completely supports our efforts to achieve energy security as their companies can win lucrative contracts to build the power stations...

by Mamad Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:18 am

Sepi wrote:
Mamad wrote:
Israel's arms are a way of ensuring peace, iran's are not.

Sorry Yuri but This is the must stupid comment in Goallegacy's history.

Iran never attacked any country in 6000 year history. but Israeil? how many people they killed? how many country they attacked during their short history?

I guess Nader Shah was attacking my balls then when he went and conquered Afghanistan and India and shed load of goal, like 300 years ago.

And I can see a strike coming too. It has its positives and negatives IMO.

Afghan's leading by Mahmood attacked Isfahan and killed Shah Soltan Hossein.

a few years after Mahmood was killed by his uncle's son Ashraf. in that time NaderShah wasn't king and he was under command of Shah Tahmaseb.

Tahmaseb starts a war with Afghans in Iran to force them out....after years Nadershah being king and after forcing Afghan's out he track them to kill them because of what they did in Iran.

Afghans Escape to their country and Nader chased them. so it's the story about attacking Afghanistan.

India attack was again about afghans. 800 of them escaped to India. Nader tell Indians to hand them to Iran but they didn't accept. Nader asked them to do it again and again and again. but Indians didn't accept and finally Nader attacked India.

you see, it was their fault smoking

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by Mamad Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:25 am

US are hypocrites. double standards at it's best.

they care about nothing but their benefit's. if you are Profitable for them then you can do anything.

but when you are not, you are terrorist, dangerous, bad, dictator, etc....

US supported Saddam, Mobarak, Ghazafi, etc..... until they were useful. but after that we all know what happened.

hell even Bin Laden was supported by US.

by Yuri Yukuv Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:14 pm

Mamad wrote:US are hypocrites. double standards at it's best.

they care about nothing but their benefit's. if you are Profitable for them then you can do anything.

but when you are not, you are terrorist, dangerous, bad, dictator, etc....

US supported Saddam, Mobarak, Ghazafi, etc..... until they were useful. but after that we all know what happened.

hell even Bin Laden was supported by US.

Lets not forget that we supported your country for a long time too

We also supported the soviet union during WWII

by VivaStPauli Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:53 pm

Mamad wrote:US are hypocrites. double standards at it's best.

they care about nothing but their benefit's. if you are Profitable for them then you can do anything.

but when you are not, you are terrorist, dangerous, bad, dictator, etc....

US supported Saddam, Mobarak, Ghazafi, etc..... until they were useful. but after that we all know what happened.

hell even Bin Laden was supported by US.

While that is true, it doesn't change the fact that Iran is a theocratic dictatorship, and thus an unpredictable player you don't want to have nukes. I understand where the US are coming from, even though I agree that they're humungous dicks and only out for their own interest.

But this time their interests are in line with most of the world.

by zizzle Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:10 pm

Yuri Yukuv wrote:
zizzle wrote:lol thats the first thing that i thought of

but on a more serious note, at least in its Modern history Iran never attacked anyone (im not counting the first gulf war for obvious reasons)

Well if we look at the era of the islamic republic we can see that they were involved in a war for 8 years out of the 33 they have been in power, they were also involved in many bombings/kidnappings and assassinations through their proxies. They have also been involved in holding an embassy hostage and threatening neighbors with military action and constant shows of power through widely publicized military shows, nuclear arms is also another thing.

Is Iran a threat for the individualistic capitalist democratic world? It certainly is

while that might be true you have to remember that the war with Iraq was forced on them (wasnt that obvious?) and it was financed by Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, two pro America countries

Israel on the other hand have waged many wars on its neighbors and continious to threaten them untill today. It's one of the few countries in the world that constantly violates the International law, it does not comply with the UN resolutions, and it is directly or indirectly responsible for the death of more than 150,000 human beings in the past 60-70 years

Is Israel a threat for its neighbors ? it certainly is

by Mamad Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:14 pm

Yuri Yukuv wrote:
Mamad wrote:US are hypocrites. double standards at it's best.

they care about nothing but their benefit's. if you are Profitable for them then you can do anything.

but when you are not, you are terrorist, dangerous, bad, dictator, etc....

US supported Saddam, Mobarak, Ghazafi, etc..... until they were useful. but after that we all know what happened.

hell even Bin Laden was supported by US.

Lets not forget that we supported your country for a long time too

We also supported the soviet union during WWII

They supported Iran Before Khomeini's era. they never supported Islamic Republic regime.

by Yuri Yukuv Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:39 pm

Mamad wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
Mamad wrote:US are hypocrites. double standards at it's best.

they care about nothing but their benefit's. if you are Profitable for them then you can do anything.

but when you are not, you are terrorist, dangerous, bad, dictator, etc....

US supported Saddam, Mobarak, Ghazafi, etc..... until they were useful. but after that we all know what happened.

hell even Bin Laden was supported by US.

Lets not forget that we supported your country for a long time too

We also supported the soviet union during WWII

They supported Iran Before Khomeini's era. they never supported Islamic Republic regime.

Cmon now, we were friends for a while.

Dont you remember oliver north?

Iran was a close ally of israel and then not, and then again it became a covert business partnet.

DUring the Iran Iraq war the israelis sold the iranians weapons with a value of 500 Million each year of the way.

by Mamad Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:01 pm

During Islamic Republic era US never supported Iran. don't even try Yuri.

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