Summer Silly Season: Official Thread
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Re: Summer Silly Season: Official Thread
Art Morte wrote:ynwa wrote:Cole, Poulsen, Jova, El Zhar, Degen, PFK and AA all have to go. They're killing the wage bill.
Poor poor Meireles. Get's paid as if he's cheap labour compared to flops, then gets shipped off after an impressive season. Also stated he wants to be here for 10+ years.
That's how it sometimes goes, business can be ruthless. Meireles is 28-years-old, if we want to get any money from his sale, now it's the time to act. Business-wise it makes perfect sense; let's buy players young and sell them on when they've still got resale value, not when they're already 30+. I don't want to sell - or at least didn't want - Meireles, but seeing that we're buying these younger midfield players, now it's edging closer to simply being the smartest thing to do to let go of one of the older midfielders. Money doesn't grow in trees.
Those deadwood players killing the wage bill are starting to worry me more as each week passes without any news about their departure...
We are not a selling club.We are in to win silverware.Selling ur better players so before their value declines is the attitude of a selling club like Udinese.How many times have u seen United or chelsea do this? Never.
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BeautifulGame wrote:Art Morte wrote:ynwa wrote:Cole, Poulsen, Jova, El Zhar, Degen, PFK and AA all have to go. They're killing the wage bill.
Poor poor Meireles. Get's paid as if he's cheap labour compared to flops, then gets shipped off after an impressive season. Also stated he wants to be here for 10+ years.
That's how it sometimes goes, business can be ruthless. Meireles is 28-years-old, if we want to get any money from his sale, now it's the time to act. Business-wise it makes perfect sense; let's buy players young and sell them on when they've still got resale value, not when they're already 30+. I don't want to sell - or at least didn't want - Meireles, but seeing that we're buying these younger midfield players, now it's edging closer to simply being the smartest thing to do to let go of one of the older midfielders. Money doesn't grow in trees.
Those deadwood players killing the wage bill are starting to worry me more as each week passes without any news about their departure...
We are not a selling club.We are in to win silverware.Selling ur better players so before their value declines is the attitude of a selling club like Udinese.How many times have u seen United or chelsea do this? Never.
Selling clubs most of the time don't buy expensive players at all. We do.
Plus there's the fact that while Meireles has been impressive, he has by no means looked irreplacable in my eyes. We can replace him immediately; selling clubs don't look to replace their sold superstars immediately.
I don't think we create enough revenue to be able to buy expensive players and not sell any of them on for big bucks. Most of them we can keep through their prime and until they're worth less than 10m, but I think it's only smart to look to sell some of them on while they've still got value.
Edit. And I don't believe this will diminish our silverware-chances, because those monies we receive from selling "Meireleses" we can re-invest in "Hendersons" - a few of which we can again sell on after some years. And so the cycle keeps going.
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Quotes getting too big...
I agree to most of that. But what's the point of buying a player for the future only to sell him in his prime? I don't see it.
We were a selling club under G+H...
"I hope we don't become a selling club in the future and sell most of our players in their prime."
Key words in red.
Selling clubs most of the time don't buy expensive players at all. We do.
Plus there's the fact that while Meireles has been impressive, he has by no means looked irreplacable in my eyes. We can replace him immediately; selling clubs don't look to replace their sold superstars immediately.
I don't think we create enough revenue to be able to buy expensive players and not sell any of them on for big bucks. Most of them we can keep through their prime and until they're worth less than 10m, but I think it's only smart to look to sell some of them on while they've still got value.
Edit. And I don't believe this will diminish our silverware-chances, because those monies we receive from selling "Meireleses" we can re-invest in "Hendersons" - a few of which we can again sell on after some years. And so the cycle keeps going.
I agree to most of that. But what's the point of buying a player for the future only to sell him in his prime? I don't see it.
We are not a selling club.We are in to win silverware.Selling ur better players so before their value declines is the attitude of a selling club like Udinese.How many times have u seen United or chelsea do this? Never.
We were a selling club under G+H...
"I hope we don't become a selling club in the future and sell most of our players in their prime."
Key words in red.
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RedOranje wrote:Cristiano Ronaldo?
Ronaldo desperately wanted to go and Madrid offered a price which United simply cant refuse.If we sell Meireles for a huge profit like 20mil i wont complain.But if we sell for the price quoted in the press(13mil) i will be dissapointed.
Not saying its a wrong decision as dont know we will replace him with or how we will play(formation) next season but just hugely dissapointed.
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ynwa wrote:I agree to most of that. But what's the point of buying a player for the future only to sell him in his prime? I don't see it.
Not all of them, just those few on whose occasions it looks feasible. I think Meireles' case is one, now that we've bought Henderson and apparently Adam. Squad size also plays a part; if we want those young midfielders (in this case MFs), we need to let go of some other MF players. And I feel like I'm ranting on for too long now x), but there's also the aspect that I don't think we'd buy Meireles today, if you know what I mean, we've taken a bit different direction player-trading wise than what it was when Raul was signed. Maybe our guys in charge feel a little that Meireles is not completely a part of their concept.
But hey, he hasn't been sold yet, let's see what happens
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BeautifulGame wrote:Fahim89 wrote:Nishank wrote:The Mirror is reporting that Lennon is on our Radar..
what utter bollocks! what happened to Downing! what happened to the mystery car!
It is saying we will go for Lennon after signing Downing.Agree with utter bollocks though.
now even Goal.com is talking about! (where do they get this ) . .
however the sad thing is its all over twitter that Barca might be missing out on Sanchez . .which might suggest they would go for Mata & if so can't see Mata not wanting to go to Spain (with Messi) lineup . .it would be a sad i tell you . . when we see Lennon being our TOP PRIORITY & Mata sign for Barca
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^ Won't happen. Calm down.
Anyone else think we should get Thiago as Raul's replacement? I'd rather him over Adam too.
Anyone else think we should get Thiago as Raul's replacement? I'd rather him over Adam too.
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ynwa wrote:^ Won't happen. Calm down.
Anyone else think we should get Thiago as Raul's replacement? I'd rather him over Adam too.
Thiago . .naaah Barca ain't letting him go with Cesc not looking to go this season (most likely)!
anyhow what happened to Wickham? he should be back . .
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If Barca get Cesc, there's no way they can afford Mata too. They'd sell Thiago/Bojan, we'll agree with Mata privately and sign them both (Mata + Thiag).
I'm allowed to dream red. :\
I'm allowed to dream red. :\
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ynwa wrote:
Anyone else think we should get Thiago as Raul's replacement?
mate it just cant happen...
Barca knows very much what a gem they've got, they wont let him go.
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nj wrote:ynwa wrote:
Anyone else think we should get Thiago as Raul's replacement?
mate it just cant happen...
Barca knows very much what a gem they've got, they wont let him go.
He'd run away if Cesc went to Barca.
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Barca will go for Rossi if they miss out on Sanchez IMO.
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so any mysterious activity up in Melwood today??
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lol now rumors Barca will go for Aguero if they cant get Sanchez
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i don't know they seem to be very determined to turn the club into the Spanish National side with Messi as the official Mascot
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How serious is this Raul rumor!!! Did any credible media (online, print or electronic) carry it!!!
Frankly, this defies any logic. He is talented, works hard, got another 3-4 years, settled, commited.
Frankly, this defies any logic. He is talented, works hard, got another 3-4 years, settled, commited.
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now where is everyone! ! the silence is getting prolonged!
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I'm here guys. Just reading. Absolutely got no itk info or rumor. so keep it coming guys
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Daily Fail really trying to sell papers now, cranking out the bullshit by the truckload.
Chelsea in for Turan
Arsenal Bid for Mata
Chelsea in for Turan
Arsenal Bid for Mata
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I heard from a reliable source we are swapping Meireles and Aquilani for Iniesta.
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RedOranje wrote:Daily Fail really trying to sell papers now, cranking out the bullshit by the truckload.
Chelsea in for Turan
Arsenal Bid for Mata
I have a feeling Valencia might be leaking these rumors to force the likes of City to enter the bidding as they are locked in Sanchez.If its only Arsenal we can always out bid them.
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Courtesy of a soccernet update from various sources... Villarreal are on the verge of signing Zapata, Roma is willing to go 20 mil for Clichy, Downing needs to put in a transfer request for AV to let him go, and the listing of Meireles was due to a dispute over his wage rise, not just due to an excess of players.
Great news all around.
Great news all around.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/liverpool-close-on-adam-and-downing-2303271.html
various reports suggesting that Shelvey would be on loan to Blackpool & part of the Adam deal. . Downing to hand in a transfer request in order to speed up the move to LFC . .Adam is almost done (haven't we heard that a lot )
various reports suggesting that Shelvey would be on loan to Blackpool & part of the Adam deal. . Downing to hand in a transfer request in order to speed up the move to LFC . .Adam is almost done (haven't we heard that a lot )
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stevieg8 wrote:Courtesy of a soccernet update from various sources... Villarreal are on the verge of signing Zapata, Roma is willing to go 20 mil for Clichy, Downing needs to put in a transfer request for AV to let him go, and the listing of Meireles was due to a dispute over his wage rise, not just due to an excess of players.
Great news all around.
That Clichy rumor is BS.Not sure about others.
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BeautifulGame wrote:stevieg8 wrote:Courtesy of a soccernet update from various sources... Villarreal are on the verge of signing Zapata, Roma is willing to go 20 mil for Clichy, Downing needs to put in a transfer request for AV to let him go, and the listing of Meireles was due to a dispute over his wage rise, not just due to an excess of players.
Great news all around.
That Clichy rumor is BS.Not sure about others.
Yeah, I figured it was, considering we've been discussing 5-10 on this forum.
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