Is a fit Ribery the second best player in the world?

Amazing how underrated Bayern is, hope they face EPL team or Real in playoffs. Rooting for you after all this BS on forums and internet.

Ozil played like 1 season+WC, he is already rated top 10, some put him top 5, cmon now.

Grande_Milano wrote:Amazing how underrated Bayern is, hope they face EPL team or Real in playoffs. Rooting for you after all this BS on forums and internet.

Ozil played like 1 season+WC, he is already rated top 10, some put him top 5, cmon now.

Exactly Grande..Thats what my thoughts are !Madrid fans get a clue..

Atleast wait until this season to make a real judgement..He has been fully integrated into the team now hence the chemistry would be much more improved amongst Real Madrid players..I am not questioning his talent as he has loads of it..Reserve your judgment until then..

He is simply not in the same league as Messi,Iniesta,Xavi,Robben,Ronaldo at the moment..Even Ribery is better than Oezil..

But i still maintain he will eventually break into the Top 5 but not at the moment..

If we are basing it on last season Ozil was easily top 10. Doesn't matter if he played 1 season or 100. last season he was top 10.

When did how good Bayern is become the topic of the thread ?

When they bitchslapped City?

top 5 at the best imo

No, not the 2nd best but he is top 5.

I don't see how he can be better than Messi.

I couldn't even continue reading some post..

Just a question to the Admins.. is this a trolling forum, or a football forum?

no but robben is

Geo wrote:I couldn't even continue reading some post..

Just a question to the Admins.. is this a trolling forum, or a football forum?

Ronaldo or Ribéry?

I really hate Ronaldo, i really do. Ever since he refused to give me a autograph 3 years ago, I have passionately hated him ever since. But from what i have noticed, most barca fans here seem to hate on ronaldo only to make Messi look better. I would go punch ronaldo in the face if given the opportunity, however even I can admit Ronaldo is much (not just a little) much more better than Ribery.

If you are so sure Messi is better, then why always bring it up in every thread trying to belittle ronaldo? This is just purely based on my observation.

For example, I always look at it this way. Since I support A.Madrid, if I have a choice between Ronaldo and Messi who would I take for my team? Now, personally I prefer MEssi more since he is my kind of a player. However, if I want A.madrid to even challenge for the title, then I would pick Ronaldo 10/10 times since I know he will perform regardless. His consistency is scary. Just my 2 cents.

However, I still hate Ronaldo (selfish, arrogant, bastard) for refusing to give me his autograph. But its all good, since Ronaldo being in Real only cements my hatred for Real.

With Ribery you can play like a team, with CR you need 5 years to play like a team. This works against small teams but against big teams you need to play like a team

billionmillion wrote:With Ribery you can play like a team, with CR you need 5 years to play like a team. This works against small teams but against big teams you need to play like a team

Ronaldo has adapted in every team he ever played with unlike messi who only performe in barcelona and xaviesta. Heskey scores more goals than messi does for NT

Scarface is a great player, IMO when he is fit he is top 15.

billionmillion wrote:With Ribery you can play like a team, with CR you need 5 years to play like a team. This works against small teams but against big teams you need to play like a team

Thank you, another one who sees my footballing vision. The whole work as a team thing is why Barcelona is so successful.

Mr.Hendrix wrote:I really hate Ronaldo, i really do. Ever since he refused to give me a autograph 3 years ago, I have passionately hated him ever since. But from what i have noticed, most barca fans here seem to hate on ronaldo only to make Messi look better. I would go punch ronaldo in the face if given the opportunity, however even I can admit Ronaldo is much (not just a little) much more better than Ribery.

If you are so sure Messi is better, then why always bring it up in every thread trying to belittle ronaldo? This is just purely based on my observation.

For example, I always look at it this way. Since I support A.Madrid, if I have a choice between Ronaldo and Messi who would I take for my team? Now, personally I prefer MEssi more since he is my kind of a player. However, if I want A.madrid to even challenge for the title, then I would pick Ronaldo 10/10 times since I know he will perform regardless. His consistency is scary. Just my 2 cents.

However, I still hate Ronaldo (selfish, arrogant, bastard) for refusing to give me his autograph. But its all good, since Ronaldo being in Real only cements my hatred for Real.

Cristiano that son of a b1tch. I would have been pissed as well if I didn't get that autograph. I totally understand the dislike for the man. And you're an Atletico supporter, sweet. I personally would have been trolling RM fans (those sensitive bastards) all now but that's just me really...

Mr.Hendrix wrote:I really hate Ronaldo, i really do. Ever since he refused to give me a autograph 3 years ago, I have passionately hated him ever since. But from what i have noticed, most barca fans here seem to hate on ronaldo only to make Messi look better. I would go punch ronaldo in the face if given the opportunity, however even I can admit Ronaldo is much (not just a little) much more better than Ribery.

If you are so sure Messi is better, then why always bring it up in every thread trying to belittle ronaldo? This is just purely based on my observation.

For example, I always look at it this way. Since I support A.Madrid, if I have a choice between Ronaldo and Messi who would I take for my team? Now, personally I prefer MEssi more since he is my kind of a player. However, if I want A.madrid to even challenge for the title, then I would pick Ronaldo 10/10 times since I know he will perform regardless. His consistency is scary. Just my 2 cents.

However, I still hate Ronaldo (selfish, arrogant, bastard) for refusing to give me his autograph. But its all good, since Ronaldo being in Real only cements my hatred for Real.

How do you know Messi won't perform as well? Messi is the most consistent player on the planet. He's been world class since coming onto the first team at 17 years old and hasn't looked back.

In terms of individual quality. No, Ribery will never be better than Messi, but in terms of his contribution to the team and elevating them, yes I believe he will go on to have a similar effect that Messi has for Barca. Individuality means nothing tbh, I judge players by the effect they have on their teams hence I feel that Messi, Cavani, Rooney, Xavi, Ozil, Ronaldo are all the top players atm. Individually though (whatever that means) No one is on Messi's level and probably won't be on his level for a long time.

He is the 2nd best player when in form n fit for me. After messi of coarse

I made a thread on that back in Lithium forums on it as well, and i still believe in that

RealGunner wrote:He is the 2nd best player when in form n fit for me. After messi of coarse

I made a thread on that back in Lithium forums on it as well, and i still believe in that

I hope you're not serious mate.

Don't make me post what Ronaldo has done to your team

xabi wrote:

RealGunner wrote:He is the 2nd best player when in form n fit for me. After messi of coarse

I made a thread on that back in Lithium forums on it as well, and i still believe in that

I hope you're not serious mate.

Don't make me post what Ronaldo has done to your team

you mean the ONLY good match he had against us in his 5-6 years in England ? And that too against a 18 year old LB playing his first ever CL match ?

xabi wrote:

billionmillion wrote:With Ribery you can play like a team, with CR you need 5 years to play like a team. This works against small teams but against big teams you need to play like a team

Ronaldo has adapted in every team he ever played with unlike messi who only performe in barcelona and xaviesta. Heskey scores more goals than messi does for NT

CR is nothing without R.Madrid (by your logic), see
CR national team stats
29 goals in 83 games

CR Madrid stats
95 goals in 98 games

He had likes of Deco, Figo behind him he still scored only 29 goals in 9 years for NT?

Ribery can make players to look better, he can make his team play better. CR doesnt make anyone better, the team makes him better by assisting him tap-ins penalties free kicks. What CR needs is to get a chair and sit next to opponents GK, so he can chat with GK and spend his time until he receives a tap-in or penalty
In big games i'd take ribery, because in big games nobody gives you big space to move, so Ribery has good close control and close dribbling, thats why he could do more. in other games i'd take ronaldo. he can do more than ribery against avarage teams there are too much space to run and move

billionmillion wrote:

xabi wrote:

billionmillion wrote:With Ribery you can play like a team, with CR you need 5 years to play like a team. This works against small teams but against big teams you need to play like a team

Ronaldo has adapted in every team he ever played with unlike messi who only performe in barcelona and xaviesta. Heskey scores more goals than messi does for NT

CR is nothing without R.Madrid (by your logic), see
CR national team stats
29 goals in 83 games

CR Madrid stats
95 goals in 98 games

He had likes of Deco, Figo behind him he still scored only 29 goals in 9 years for NT?

Ribery can make players to look better, he can make his team play better. CR doesnt make anyone better, the team makes him better by assisting him tap-ins penalties free kicks. What CR needs is to get a chair and sit next to opponents GK, so he can chat with GK and spend his time until he receives a tap-in or penalty
In big games i'd take ribery, because in big games nobody gives you big space to move, so Ribery has good close control and close dribbling, thats why he could do more. in other games i'd take ronaldo. he can do more than ribery against avarage teams there are too much space to run and move

If you actually believe that Ronaldo can only score tap-ins, then I suggest you take your barca glasses off. Ronaldo is a *bleep*, but can score almost every kind of goal and he does. Against Barca, Real or even my team cant control the possession therefore their effectiveness is minimized. Don't let your bias take a hold of you, learn to be more appreciative of some of these great football players on the filed(Ronaldo still is a *bleep* off-field).

Just because A is amazing, doesn't mean B is not as good or can't be. Someone says Messi cant play for Argentina, you guys say ohh because he plays as a playmaker. How many goals did Messi play-make when Argentina needed him the most? Against Germany? In Copa? Now you will take a back seat, and say ohhh but Argentina's strikers couldn't finish the chances created by Messi. You guys complain about Higuain, Tevez, Milito but have Hugo Almeida as you best striker, and then talk. I dont want to cherry-pick on Messi's bad games, he is one of my fav players. A genious. But you are so biased towards Ronaldo, sometimes i wonder do you guys really believe in everything you write?

Regardless, I hope Ronaldo gets injured for the rest of the season or at least against my team. Imagine how much money i could have made if he had just given me one f--rreeeaking autograph. bloody bastard.

El Chelsea Fuerte wrote:

Lionel Messi wrote:Fit Ribery is only behind Messi and a fit Robben.

this

Lionel Messi