All players need to fight , no1 is untouchable

Antonio Conte, saw the two close matches against Bologna and Catania, will for the first time of turnover. In these first two league games, the coach has changed only Puglia De Ceglie with Grosso, causing the expulsion of the Valle d'Aosta-back, but now, two days before the match against Bologna, we start talking about a return to the field of Captain Alessandro Del Piero, but also the onset of the first minute of Milos Krasic, the debut season of Eljero Elia, and perhaps the first call Estigarribia.

Turnover will not mean to denature a team that in two races, has demonstrated an important defensive solidity, a perfectly controlled by the director-duo Marchisio Pirlo, and a fast and attacking game full of dangerous variables, but it means to rest players Utilizing the most, and give new life to a team that makes the speed of the race and its main feature.

Players who debuted for the first time or will depart from the owners, will prove to be the true value of Juventus, which this year saw the rose at its disposal extensive Antonio Conte, have to fight all for a starting spot, since no is untouchable

DeviAngel wrote:Antonio Conte, saw the two close matches against Bologna and Catania, will for the first time of turnover. In these first two league games, the coach has changed only Puglia De Ceglie with Grosso, causing the expulsion of the Valle d'Aosta-back, but now, two days before the match against Bologna, we start talking about a return to the field of Captain Alessandro Del Piero, but also the onset of the first minute of Milos Krasic, the debut season of Eljero Elia, and perhaps the first call Estigarribia.

Turnover will not mean to denature a team that in two races, has demonstrated an important defensive solidity, a perfectly controlled by the director-duo Marchisio Pirlo, and a fast and attacking game full of dangerous variables, but it means to rest players Utilizing the most, and give new life to a team that makes the speed of the race and its main feature.

Players who debuted for the first time or will depart from the owners, will prove to be the true value of Juventus, which this year saw the rose at its disposal extensive Antonio Conte, have to fight all for a starting spot, since no is untouchable

thank u for boldening that part devi..no one is untouchable...places have to be earned and thats the sort of thinking must penetrate the group...

Conte is learning from the mistakes made with Diego... unlike a lot of ppl on this forum just want to throw Elia and Krasic into games when we can easily win without them for now..

The_ItalianFool wrote:Conte is learning from the mistakes made with Diego... unlike a lot of ppl on this forum just want to throw Elia and Krasic into games when we can easily win without them for now..

conte is making the team not to depend on several players and not to feel like stars and so far I like it

Krasic already played a full season for Juventus.
Giaccherini just joined the team, Pepe has the same experience as Krasic.

Krasic is returning from injury, he isn't 90 minutes fit, leave it at that, just don't make claims about him.

Elia is another story, I've seen better players in different situations become instantly injected into the squad. I see no problem with it. He was bought because his characteristics will fit Conte's system, I do not expect him to take a long time to realize how Conte plays and I find this a rather lame cop out...

Easily win? Think when Siena hit the crossbar, if Juventus dropped points I would love to read posts, don't be glory hunters. Conte has said there is room for improvement, I know there is room for improvement so deal with it. Three points =/= perfect play, it was far from perfect. Be happy with three points? Sure, say they were easily won? No.

A lot of people on this forum want to see Elia and Krasic, shame on us all.

The_ItalianFool wrote:Conte is learning from the mistakes made with Diego... unlike a lot of ppl on this forum just want to throw Elia and Krasic into games when we can easily win without them for now..

I think you use the term "easily" very loosely. I wouldn't say that Juve won "easily" yesterday. Also, comparing playing Diego to playing Elia and Krasic is a poor example. Playing Diego meant switching to a formation designed for the player. Conte's 4-2-4 is designed for fast wings, which is exactly the type of players Elia and Krasic are. That is why people are confused.

The_ItalianFool wrote:Conte is learning from the mistakes made with Diego... unlike a lot of ppl on this forum just want to throw Elia and Krasic into games when we can easily win without them for now..

Well Fab, you see. You brought up a good point, because you backed it up with Diego.

But what happened to giving them some playing time? Your going to let your players not play for weeks? Trust me training is irrelavent, what matters most is when playing on the pitch.

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

The_ItalianFool wrote:Conte is learning from the mistakes made with Diego... unlike a lot of ppl on this forum just want to throw Elia and Krasic into games when we can easily win without them for now..

Well Fab, you see. You brought up a good point, because you backed it up with Diego.

But what happened to giving them some playing time? Your going to let your players not play for weeks? Trust me training is irrelavent, what matters most is when playing on the pitch.

Um, we're only 2 games in...

Yes, I know, I'm saying, what happens if this continues? Krasic playing only for 20 mins? Elia not even one minute on the pitch... Elia being benched twice is already abusrd.

Luca wrote:Krasic already played a full season for Juventus.
Giaccherini just joined the team, Pepe has the same experience as Krasic.

Krasic is returning from injury, he isn't 90 minutes fit, leave it at that, just don't make claims about him.

Elia is another story, I've seen better players in different situations become instantly injected into the squad. I see no problem with it. He was bought because his characteristics will fit Conte's system, I do not expect him to take a long time to realize how Conte plays and I find this a rather lame cop out...

Easily win? Think when Siena hit the crossbar, if Juventus dropped points I would love to read posts, don't be glory hunters. Conte has said there is room for improvement, I know there is room for improvement so deal with it. Three points =/= perfect play, it was far from perfect. Be happy with three points? Sure, say they were easily won? No.


A lot of people on this forum want to see Elia and Krasic, shame on us all.

This post sums up what I think.
Especially the Siena game, there was nothing comfortable about that. If that goal went in, people would instantly point out to the team sheet saying, "No Krasic,No Elia. Giac wasn't good." But because we narrowly won 1-0 people forget the negatives and just point to the result.

And yes, we're only 2 games in. But as I have mentioned before without game time our star players won't be properly prepared for the Milans and Napolis. Training only goes so far. Playing against a newly promoted team is the ideal game to introduce new players. That's what I'm saying.

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:

The_ItalianFool wrote:Conte is learning from the mistakes made with Diego... unlike a lot of ppl on this forum just want to throw Elia and Krasic into games when we can easily win without them for now..

Well Fab, you see. You brought up a good point, because you backed it up with Diego.

But what happened to giving them some playing time? Your going to let your players not play for weeks? Trust me training is irrelavent, what matters most is when playing on the pitch.

Now there is some importance to practice/training, but when players get to this level, it reaches a point of whether you got it or you don't. I think Allen Iverson summed up the importance of training/practice:

His last line summs it up.

I know there's importance to training lol, i'm not denying that. I'm saying, it's also important to get some playing time...

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:I know there's importance to training lol, i'm not denying that. I'm saying, it's also important to get some playing time...

Same here. I'm just trying to bring in some humor. There's no substitute for the intensity of playing in the game, that goes for any sport.

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Juventude wrote:

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only one is a world champion

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LESTER BO MCCALEB !! Macedonia's pride

just saw a couple videos of him. he looks pretty talented too bad he didnt get drafted.. at least he's getting a lot of love in europe

Nice... but hey now you understand my pride with Italian players

Shouldn't this thread be titled:

All players must fight, except for Giaccherini who is untouchable?

Spoiler:

I'm in favor for bringing Giovinco back and replace him with Giacherinni.

After a lot of reading on this topic has anybody stopped to think Hey...maybe Krasic and Elia just aren't trying hard enough during training. The name of this thread say's it all and I believe Conte is the type of coach that wants the players to go the extra mile in order to be chosen come game time. There is no doubt both will be are starting wingers they are too good to be benched all the time. IMO the best coaches are those who make the team a group of equals and make the team try hard in training in order to earn a start. Mourinho is a good example of this..if a player doesn't work hard enough in training they will not start plain and simple.

Also I believe rotation will be key for our wingers this season. With Juve not playing in Europe this year that makes a well rested and fit Krasic and Elia much more dangerous against a tired Napoli, Milan and Inter side. I think by starting Giach and Pepe now it will improve their own game and in the long run make them more reliable players all while motivating Krasic and Elia to gain their place.

Il Pinguino wrote:After a lot of reading on this topic has anybody stopped to think Hey...maybe Krasic and Elia just aren't trying hard enough during training. The name of this thread say's it all and I believe Conte is the type of coach that wants the players to go the extra mile in order to be chosen come game time. There is no doubt both will be are starting wingers they are too good to be benched all the time. IMO the best coaches are those who make the team a group of equals and make the team try hard in training in order to earn a start. Mourinho is a good example of this..if a player doesn't work hard enough in training they will not start plain and simple.

Also I believe rotation will be key for our wingers this season. With Juve not playing in Europe this year that makes a well rested and fit Krasic and Elia much more dangerous against a tired Napoli, Milan and Inter side. I think by starting Giach and Pepe now it will improve their own game and in the long run make them more reliable players all while motivating Krasic and Elia to gain their place.

Wow, great post. This is rare as I might be changing my idea about whats going on with Krasic and Elia, Although I don't agree, you seem to have brought the best points in my views. I may need to go find out more about that, if Elia and Krasic not trying hard enough.

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Honestly, I can't safely say that Elia isn't working hard in training but if he joined a team and immediately started to slack off then I really don't know what to say about him.

I really do think it is tactical, I think Elia is an ace up Conte's sleeve, we'll see as the season progresses.

Krasic is returning from injury, this is the reason for his lack of form, he wasn't 90 minutes fit for Siena we will see for Bologna. He (Krasic) seems like the ideal play for Conte's system so I am sure we'll see him soon.

Given the way Conte uses his substitutes squad depth is important and fresh legs on the wings is never a bad thing.

Luca wrote:Honestly, I can't safely say that Elia isn't working hard in training but if he joined a team and immediately started to slack off then I really don't know what to say about him.

I really do think it is tactical, I think Elia is an ace up Conte's sleeve, we'll see as the season progresses.

Krasic is returning from injury, this is the reason for his lack of form, he wasn't 90 minutes fit for Siena we will see for Bologna. He (Krasic) seems like the ideal play for Conte's system so I am sure we'll see him soon.

Given the way Conte uses his substitutes squad depth is important and fresh legs on the wings is never a bad thing.

I'm sure its only a matter of time until we see both used. And if there is a problem with Elia I have no doubts that Conte will straighten him out. Either way I can't wait to see him play i've wanted him at Juve since watching him play in South Africa and i've been dying to see him start since we bought him lol