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Post by Albiceleste Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:37 am

:bow: dat clutchness

I don't care if people say he had a bad game, he was clinical.

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Post by jibers Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:01 am

Albiceleste wrote::bow: dat clutchness

I don't care if people say he had a bad game, he was clinical.

Tapessi :bow:
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Post by Harmonica Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:21 am

Ray Hudson - "It's absolutely suicidal to leave him with this much space, you may as well invite Jack the Ripper into your house."

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Post by shinigami99 Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:10 pm

I would say Brazil and Argentina are polar opposites in terms of "flashiness" of an individual getting past a defender. Messi fits right in with traditional Argentine individual play.
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Post by harhar11 Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:00 pm

Albiceleste wrote::bow: dat clutchness

I don't care if people say he had a bad game, he was clinical.

Thats why, for me, Messi is in a league own his own. Even when he is having an awful game, he is still decisive :bow:

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:48 am

Alex it seems to me, as others have noted, that you're only comparing him to Brazilians and Maradona under the label of "South American", and of course he doesn't play like a Brazilian - no Argentines do. I would say he plays like an Argentine in the sense that we dribble the most out of all countries - Argentine players when they leave for Spain or Italy usually have the most trouble adjusting to is the speed with which the ball travels. In the Argentine league it is much more common for players to try to dribble past a defender than in other leagues. While Messi picks his dribbles more smartly now, I would say his style fits into that one, he still attempts dribbling past 5 players at times.
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Post by Khaled Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:54 am

Most Goals in 2012 - Europe's top-5 leagues (all official comps, Club and Country):

1- Messi - 57 (Games: 41, Assists: 15)
2- Cr7 - 40 (Games: 44, Assists: Cool
3- Ibra - 26 (Games: 34, Assists: 9)
4- Huntelaar - 25 (Games: 29, Assists: 6)
5- Falcao - 25 (Games: 33, Assists: 5)
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Post by Harmonica Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:16 am

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Post by free_cat Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:48 am

Alba should have lobbed that chance, it was easy for a pro footballer. Montoya's was more difficult, but he could have made it easier cutting in instead of going wide. A pitty. Great game by Messi.
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Post by shinigami99 Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:50 pm

Messi :bow:

I hope he really does win Ballon D'or but there will probably be more votes now for Ronaldo. Clearly from people who don't WATCH his games and only see the highlight reel.
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Post by neuro11 Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:33 am

shinigami99 wrote:Messi :bow:

I hope he really does win Ballon D'or but there will probably be more votes now for Ronaldo. Clearly from people who don't WATCH his games and only see the highlight reel.

atleast a marca journalist will not vote their.........how can you even think of people from other country when there is a more deserving one in yours....!!!

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:08 am

I think it's fair to say that the votes won't change much from this voting to the next, it's fair to say that the journalists will spread their votes evenly between all three (Iniesta had 19 and Messi and CR7 17 each). These kinds of awards really end in June so it's unlikely they'll change their minds too much, although for the Ballon D'Or the entire world votes, not just Europe, and it's likely that most of South America will vote for it's only representative.

So the Ballon D'Or will likely be decided by the other half of the voting procedure, the club managers and captains.
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Post by billy_gr Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:27 pm

I really want him not to play every single game in la liga.
Ending up first scorer is nice but keeping his energy for more important games is essential
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Post by eelir Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:26 pm

Apparently Messi is playing in pain. That's why he did not press during the last games and this has been going on for a while (if you could trust my spanish, please some native speaker clarify a bit more)

http://www.marca.com/2012/09/04/futbol/equipos/barcelona/1346766564.html
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Post by free_cat Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:04 pm

Yes, it does say he has pain in his adductor muscles.

It would explain a lot.

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Post by shadeslayer Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:51 pm

I guess this would be the second time in recent times that some deficiency in performance of a player turns out to be due to injury. Remember we started criticizing Villa last season when it turned out he was playing in pain.

Two things to be said: 1, Medical staff should be much more assertive in these cases.
2, Maybe we shouldn't jump to conclusions about a player's commitment without ruling out the possibility of an injury.

Anyway, I hope it turns out to be minor and that he might be be given some rest for Argentina.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:19 am

Messi: "Physically, I'm feeling good. I had a good preseason, and played already some friendlies and official games."
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Post by billionmillion Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:48 pm

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Post by gondov Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:10 am

Does anyone agree with me?

Tito should instruct Messi to start going down if he is tackled hard in a dangerous position (messi territory)

He is becoming lethal @ free kicks.

Today's goal vs Paraguay was :bow: :bow:

He also hit the post with an equally brilliant free kick in the same game.

Xavi's freekick was also :bow: today.

I'm expecting more freekick goals from these two this season. Defenders will have to think twice before dragging messi down near the area now!!! Clubber
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Post by Harmonica Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:24 am

Messi has 3 freekick goals in his last 12 matches, and now that he's pretty good tuned in, will probably start to bag them even more frequently.
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Post by FennecFox7 Sat Sep 08, 2012 3:16 pm

TBH freekicks are luck you said it yourself when messi hit the post a number of times so we'll have to see
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Post by Madvillain Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:58 pm

Luck is always a factor to a certain extent, but that goal in jiopsi's sig, for example, is just pure class.

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Post by FennecFox7 Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:30 pm

Well that was a good goal Razz
Hell I even said Messi was good at fks before.. no one believed me
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Post by eelir Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:54 am

Just a visual insight into Messi's stats from previous season based on jipsi's data.

The upper blue line is Messi; above rest in all the stats that matter Very Happy

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Check this football visualization to play with data. Selecte ranges in the axes to filter out the data.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:43 pm

eelir wrote:Check this football visualization to play with data. Selecte ranges in the axes to filter out the data.
Nicely done, what's the vizualization software used in this?
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Post by eelir Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:08 pm

it is a library that makes visualizations on javascript http://d3js.org/

did you check the visualization. you can interact to filter the data. Pretty neat Smile
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