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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu May 16, 2013 5:46 pm

'The Messiah' - Lionel Messi - Page 37 Messigoalsplusassists

Jiopsi must be fuming about Alexis and Pedro ruining Messi's upward stats hmm

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Post by The Franchise Thu May 16, 2013 8:05 pm

Not 100% their fault, unless we want to pretned there wasn't a spell of a couple months he wad playing quite crap.
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Post by Donuts Thu May 16, 2013 9:05 pm

if Sanchez could finish Messi would have atleast 5+ assists, so many 1v1 situations Messi spoon fed him, let alone the runs Pedro never ran didn't help either.
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Post by The Franchise Thu May 16, 2013 9:13 pm

Assists are crap for that reason and others anyway, don't get know why they have importance.
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Post by Donuts Thu May 16, 2013 9:28 pm

Those through balls Xavi and Messi create are main reasons we win (mind you if we have a good finisher) so I disagree that they have no importance.
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Post by The Franchise Thu May 16, 2013 9:57 pm

Except not every assist is a throughball, not every great one end in an assist...before even making the pass equally important stuff comes before it...keeping count of them make no sense when only 3 or 4 players are ever consistenty in a position to do so.
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Post by Khaled Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:39 am

http://www.marca.com/debate/2013/05/3575/pinta-votaciones3575.html

rofl
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Post by neuro11 Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:02 am

The Franchise wrote:Assists are crap for that reason and others anyway, don't get know why they have importance.

Fully agree. This was my feeling since the beginning. I never understand why they have so much importance. There is no measure of another most important thing: playmaking. Its disappointing even for the tapin goals where all the credits goes to score/assist and a great playmaking get shadowed.
I can clearly remember a personal interview of Xavi abt 2 yrs ago that i read at totalbarca. when he was asked about moments of disappointment he replied about the person behind goal not getting recognized always...

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Post by CBarca Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:06 am

It's hard to recognize it and that's why stats are shit and should NEVER be used as the bulk of any argument, rather, they should be sparingly used in support of an argument.

Even then, it's weak.

If we're talking about baseball that's a whole different ballgame where statistics actually mean something, but in football...call me a stats hater I don't care, they don't mean too much.
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Post by Harmonica Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:56 am

Assists are not crap lol. There is different level of assists like there is different level of goals. Immaculate throughpasses, passing after dribble, compared to goals like screamers and solo goals. But then there is 1 meter passes like there is tap ins, and penalties. If there is bad passers, great goal scorers score less, if there is bad goal scorers, great passers assists less and so on.

What is important is that both lead to a goal, so they are as valuable to the team.
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Post by Berbatov Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:07 pm

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

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Post by Harmonica Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:10 pm

'The Messiah' - Lionel Messi - Page 37 World-Player-Evolution-King

Including this year, that's 7 years in top of the footballing world. Insane how fast time flies.

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Post by Harmonica Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:53 pm

'The Messiah' - Lionel Messi - Page 37 Messi%20assist%20Pedro%20Thailand

'The Messiah' - Lionel Messi - Page 37 Messi%20interception%20Thailand

'The Messiah' - Lionel Messi - Page 37 Messi%20pass%20Neymar

The pressing is back, and looking better than ever.
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Post by danyjr Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:43 pm

Do you GIF these yourself?
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Post by Harmonica Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:51 am

Yep.
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Post by gondov Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:36 pm

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Post by neuro11 Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:32 am

gondov wrote:
can you post the one with english subtitle ....i really enjoy this....

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Post by BarcaLearning Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:45 pm

Jiopsi with the gifs again :bow: Messi, the best ever :bow: 
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Post by jibers Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:59 pm

Messi is a joke. He is the best attacking player I have seen in my life.
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Post by alexjanosik Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:13 pm

When he puts his mind to it,he can defend very well.Almost always forces a mistake.Trouble is,he longer tries.

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Post by Harmonica Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:04 am

Messi is the best ball presser in the world, if he would concentrate it. 09-10 he had the most interceptions of any forward in La Liga, bar Camunas, and considering how much more attacking Messi did, that's amazing. The problem has been the team, Messi had to build the attack and then also finish it, so there has been no energy left for also to defend.

Hopefully the quality of wingers and midfield will now allow him to press more effectively.
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Post by The Franchise Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:41 am

No, he doesnt have to build the attack. He chooses to.

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Post by Donuts Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:08 pm

he kinda has to build attack.. when you have 4 marking you, it's time to drop deep and throw in a through pass to someone who is supposed to be open, pedro never got open and sanchez would miss all 1v1 situations.
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