Re: Best of the Rest in La Liga?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:57 pm

Arquitecto wrote:Bielsa's Bilbao will be doing just that in 2 years.

Seeing Bilbao on top again would be a wonderful thing to see Very Happy

by Doc Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:08 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:Bielsa's Bilbao will be doing just that in 2 years.

Seeing Bilbao on top again would be a wonderful thing to see

Again? Closest they came was 2nd in 1998 and haven't finished top 2 or 3 since the 80's before that. Maybe that's what the "again" part means and like that, I just answered my own question...

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:12 pm

Doc wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:Bielsa's Bilbao will be doing just that in 2 years.

Seeing Bilbao on top again would be a wonderful thing to see

Again? Closest they came was 2nd in 1998 and haven't finished top 2 or 3 since the 80's before that. Maybe that's what the "again" part means and like that, I just answered my own question...

I meant near the top not necessarily actually 1st because they haven't been even top 4 for a long time...

by Gil Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:49 pm

Wow. Surprised so many people misunderstood the reasoning behind this thread I know I was pretty much rambling throughout the whole post (was well tired last night) but still.....

The reasons why there's not much competition for the League title in La Liga are well publicized but this was basically intended to be a "third best" club in Spain topic.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:54 pm

Gil wrote:Wow. Surprised so many people misunderstood the reasoning behind this thread I know I was pretty much rambling throughout the whole post (was well tired last night) but still.....

The reasons why there's not much competition for the League title in La Liga are well publicized but this was intended to basically be a "third best" club in Spain topic.

In short...........

Valencia.( by quite some distance)

by The Franchise Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:56 pm

Ah I see, missed that.

TA seemed to understand it though, he went for Valencia.

I think I will side with him and pick them, maybe Atletico next but I just dont trust them.

I think there is no stand out from the pack, Valencia will be closer to the rest then Barca and Madrid if it is them who are that 3rd best team.

by Guest Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:57 pm

Valencia should take the #3 spot, depending on whether Rami is capable of playing CB by himself (the other CBs suck horribly).

by Doc Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:03 pm

Valencia should take it once their defense and Emery don't mess up too often...

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:11 pm

sportsczy wrote:Valencia should take the #3 spot, depending on whether Rami is capable of playing CB by himself (the other CBs suck horribly).

Victor Ruiz sucks horribly?

CB is'nt the issue for Valencia now its RB.

by EarlyPrototype Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:12 pm

Rami-Ruiz should cope, Valencia are more than likely to finish third.

by the xcx Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:14 pm

Malaga will definitely surprise us this year, question could they qualify for europa league :?:

by Guest Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:19 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
sportsczy wrote:Valencia should take the #3 spot, depending on whether Rami is capable of playing CB by himself (the other CBs suck horribly).

Victor Ruiz sucks horribly?

CB is'nt the issue for Valencia now its RB.

He's not starting. They have Costa next to Rami or some other stiff. I watched the Liverpool preseason game and the last La Liga game. Whoever it was... he was horrific. I mean awful.

Defense is a big problem for Valencia.

by Mr Nick09 Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:21 pm

The OP is spot on many things, actually. Atletico has the strongest squad, but Valencia is the strongest team. VIllarreal lacks depth, and De Guzman is still an x factor. Atheltic Bilbao... not yet sure how strong they will be, Espanyol in the past couple of years was often the surprise with the quality of their football. And Malaga will take some time to adjust, it all depends on how well Pelle's system takes effect. They dont need superstars just yet.

No mention of Sevilla tho, one of the ballsiest club in Spain, they definitely have a president with the mentality to challenge for CL, but they dont often invest nor put together strong enough squads to compete.

Their first game was very impressive, maybe they can keep it up all season long and headbutt some teams.

by Guest Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:21 pm

Pelle has a system???

by Mr Nick09 Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:26 pm

sportsczy wrote:Pelle has a system???

yes he does, Villarreal is still playing it today.

The brazilian 4222, Pelle usually buys players that fit his tactic rather than stars.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:30 pm

Athletico lol...........

Wont finish higher than 10th.

by Doc Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:36 pm

Judging by recent positions, that actually is quite false. Judging by recent performances, you may be on to something...

by El Chelsea Fuerte Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:37 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Athletico lol...........

Wont finish higher than 10th.

Not when they have Courtois in the side Twisted Evil

by Adit Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:39 pm

Im not sure how Villareal is going to cope with a carzola less squad.There is not enough creativity in midfield.Cani is a good player but no carzola plus he is awful at possession keeping which is important for them.

I dont rate Rossi and Nilmar that highly,Rossi has a long way to becoming world class and nilmar imo is awful in efficiency,really awful.

Bilbao will not get that far,how much a club can go with players only from a particular place? that thing is certainly limiting them eventhough they can be proud over that.

I think valencia and atletico are both on par in squad strengh.But atletico is pathetico,they will find a way to choke come december.Valencia defense was one single RB away from being called as a very good defense,which they failed to reinforce properly this summer.Still i believe they will finish comfortably like last year.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:40 pm

english_jewel wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:Athletico lol...........

Wont finish higher than 10th.

Not when they have Courtois in the side

Does'nt matter how good you are Pathetico brings you down to a mid table level of performance hence the term Pathetico :coffee:

by Adit Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:41 pm

english_jewel wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:Athletico lol...........

Wont finish higher than 10th.

Not when they have Courtois in the side

the atletico madrid youth product?

by spanky Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:52 pm

whys everybody calling him carzola its cazorla...

and i think valencia should finish it 3rd, but im also suprised that no one mentioned sevilla, the amount of talent on that team is remarkable i watched them play their opener vs malaga and you could see the difference in skill right there, but we have to keep in mind that sevilla dont bottle it like they have for a few seasons now.

by Mr Nick09 Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:53 pm

hating mole be hating

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:56 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:hating mole be hating

Say's the Pathetico fan :coffee:

I dont really hate Pathetico they piss me off more than anything they have alot of talent but they continue to fail because of they have the mentality of a local u12 team with down syndrome.....

Pathetic :facepalm:

by Adit Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:58 pm

Adit wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:Athletico lol...........

Wont finish higher than 10th.

Not when they have Courtois in the side
the atletico madrid youth product?

never mind,he is a youth product of belgian club genk.

by El Chelsea Fuerte Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:10 pm

Adit wrote:
Adit wrote:
english_jewel wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:Athletico lol...........

Wont finish higher than 10th.

Not when they have Courtois in the side
the atletico madrid youth product?

never mind,he is a youth product of belgian club genk.

We bought him from Genk and loaned him to Atletico. Probably for two seasons depending on how many games he gets 1st season.

Soon to be Cech's heir. :coffee:

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