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Post by Lord Hades Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:32 pm

well i am not really generalising but i believe most of the comments like belittling mou's credentials as a manager by calling him unproven and overrated and calling guardiola names which he is not is just a another outburst of the hatred thanks to the recent clasicos.. imo

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Post by barca 2011 Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:45 pm

The xcx wrote:I think we can see Peps darkest side if he leaves barca for a lesser team perhaps..Hes a manager who dosent acknowledge the meaning of pressure.
Why do u say he doesn't acknowledge pressure?
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Post by guest7 Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:52 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:The comments started long before Guardiola was rumored (and yet to be proven) to call the R. Madrid bench a ****ing gang, so I don't think it's that.

I, personally, think that some Madrid fans, in their impotence, need to discredit everyone who is involved in their repeated defeat throghout the past 3 years.

You would really have to ask the few of them that have discredited Guardiola, though.

That's not true, just remembered that Pep did this one time:



However, I've to respect that he keeps his calm in press conferences atleast.
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Post by harhar11 Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:59 pm

omarish wrote:There are rumours by Spanish medias that Pep went to the Real Madrid bench and shouted "your a f***ing gang" 3 times.

I think that's why. Anyways, I don't understand why anyone would. Pep is actually very respectful, atleast in public. That's enough for me to not get annoyed.

That was invented by the madrid pro media in a try to defend mourinho. Dont you find it weird that after 5-6 days of trying to find any footage of that happening there has been absolutly no proof of that ever happening, even though there are 100 of cameras in camp nou + thousand of private camera/mobile phone with camera..

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Post by Kev Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:54 am

Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.
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Post by kiranr Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:58 am

Kevacious wrote:Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.

Mourinho is a hypocrite. He is not genuine and he says things to manipulate his surroundings. I am sorry that you think the way you do.
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Post by barca 2011 Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:00 am

Kevacious wrote:Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.
And this is just your personal opinion about someone you've never met, or was he just a Dick that time u met him?
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Post by Kev Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:03 am

barca 2011 wrote:
Kevacious wrote:Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.
And this is just your personal opinion about someone you've never met, or was he just a Dick that time u met him?
Yes, this is my personal opinion about someone I have never met.
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Post by fatman123 Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:03 am

how is this thread not locked yet?
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Post by Kev Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:09 am

kiranr wrote:
Kevacious wrote:Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.

Mourinho is a hypocrite. He is not genuine and he says things to manipulate his surroundings. I am sorry that you think the way you do.
Thank you for your concern for my mental wellbeing.
Back on topic, in my opinion, the words that Mourinho utters at a given point in time is the thought that he possesses at that point in time. It doesn't mean that it will prevent hypocrisy. I could have a thought right now that contradicted a thought that I had five years ago. It doesn't mean that I am somehow less genuine, just because I express my current thought, which might contradict a previous thought.
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Post by barca 2011 Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:10 am

Kevacious wrote:
barca 2011 wrote:
Kevacious wrote:Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.
And this is just your personal opinion about someone you've never met, or was he just a Dick that time u met him?
Yes, this is my personal opinion about someone I have never met.
Nuff said.
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Post by Kev Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:13 am

barca 2011 wrote:
Kevacious wrote:
barca 2011 wrote:
Kevacious wrote:Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.
And this is just your personal opinion about someone you've never met, or was he just a Dick that time u met him?
Yes, this is my personal opinion about someone I have never met.
Nuff said.
Agreed.
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Post by barca 2011 Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:16 am

Kevacious wrote:
kiranr wrote:
Kevacious wrote:Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.

Mourinho is a hypocrite. He is not genuine and he says things to manipulate his surroundings. I am sorry that you think the way you do.
Thank you for your concern for my mental wellbeing.
Back on topic, in my opinion, the words that Mourinho utters at a given point in time is the thought that he possesses at that point in time. It doesn't mean that it will prevent hypocrisy. I could have a thought right now that contradicted a thought that I had five years ago. It doesn't mean that I am somehow less genuine, just because I express my current thought, which might contradict a previous thought.
Wow, so I see the point you're trying to prove but u just a do horrible job at trying to prove it."contradictions aren't contradictions if they're years apart, Obviously!!!" Lol.
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Post by Kev Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:20 am

barca 2011 wrote:
Kevacious wrote:
kiranr wrote:
Kevacious wrote:Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.

Mourinho is a hypocrite. He is not genuine and he says things to manipulate his surroundings. I am sorry that you think the way you do.
Thank you for your concern for my mental wellbeing.
Back on topic, in my opinion, the words that Mourinho utters at a given point in time is the thought that he possesses at that point in time. It doesn't mean that it will prevent hypocrisy. I could have a thought right now that contradicted a thought that I had five years ago. It doesn't mean that I am somehow less genuine, just because I express my current thought, which might contradict a previous thought.
Wow, so I see the point you're trying to prove but u just a do horrible job at trying to prove it."contradictions aren't contradictions if they're years apart, Obviously!!!" Lol.

If my analogy doesn't satisfy the parameters that you have created, then I will modify it, just for you.

If Mouinho thinks and says that apples are delicious yesterday, then thinks and says apples are not delicious today, does that make him a less genuine person?

He said what was on his mind on both occasions. That's called being genuine in my books.
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Post by barca 2011 Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:27 am

Kevacious wrote:
barca 2011 wrote:
Kevacious wrote:
kiranr wrote:
Kevacious wrote:Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.

Mourinho is a hypocrite. He is not genuine and he says things to manipulate his surroundings. I am sorry that you think the way you do.
Thank you for your concern for my mental wellbeing.
Back on topic, in my opinion, the words that Mourinho utters at a given point in time is the thought that he possesses at that point in time. It doesn't mean that it will prevent hypocrisy. I could have a thought right now that contradicted a thought that I had five years ago. It doesn't mean that I am somehow less genuine, just because I express my current thought, which might contradict a previous thought.
Wow, so I see the point you're trying to prove but u just a do horrible job at trying to prove it."contradictions aren't contradictions if they're years apart, Obviously!!!" Lol.

If my analogy doesn't satisfy the parameters that you have created, then I will modify it, just for you.

If Mouinho thinks and says that apples are delicious yesterday, then thinks and says apples are not delicious today, does that make him a less genuine person?

He said what was on his mind on both occasions. That's called being genuine in my books.
Well I don't really care for the analogies, but all I'm saying is what makes Mou more "genuine" than pep? Seriously, what?
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Post by Kev Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:32 am

barca 2011 wrote:
Kevacious wrote:
barca 2011 wrote:
Kevacious wrote:
kiranr wrote:
Kevacious wrote:Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.

Mourinho is a hypocrite. He is not genuine and he says things to manipulate his surroundings. I am sorry that you think the way you do.
Thank you for your concern for my mental wellbeing.
Back on topic, in my opinion, the words that Mourinho utters at a given point in time is the thought that he possesses at that point in time. It doesn't mean that it will prevent hypocrisy. I could have a thought right now that contradicted a thought that I had five years ago. It doesn't mean that I am somehow less genuine, just because I express my current thought, which might contradict a previous thought.
Wow, so I see the point you're trying to prove but u just a do horrible job at trying to prove it."contradictions aren't contradictions if they're years apart, Obviously!!!" Lol.

If my analogy doesn't satisfy the parameters that you have created, then I will modify it, just for you.

If Mouinho thinks and says that apples are delicious yesterday, then thinks and says apples are not delicious today, does that make him a less genuine person?

He said what was on his mind on both occasions. That's called being genuine in my books.
Well I don't really care for the analogies, but all I'm saying is what makes Mou more "genuine" than pep? Seriously, what?
Nothing. These are all my personal views.

Nuff said.
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Post by kiranr Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:32 am

Kevacious wrote:


Thank you for your concern for my mental wellbeing.
Back on topic, in my opinion, the words that Mourinho utters at a given point in time is the thought that he possesses at that point in time. It doesn't mean that it will prevent hypocrisy. I could have a thought right now that contradicted a thought that I had five years ago. It doesn't mean that I am somehow less genuine, just because I express my current thought, which might contradict a previous thought.

When was i concerned about your mental well being? I was only referring to your opinion about Mourinho.

Mourinho does not say what comes to his mind. He says carefully calculated things intended to manipulate.
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Post by barca 2011 Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:35 am

Kevacious wrote:
barca 2011 wrote:
Kevacious wrote:
barca 2011 wrote:
Kevacious wrote:
kiranr wrote:
Kevacious wrote:Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.

Mourinho is a hypocrite. He is not genuine and he says things to manipulate his surroundings. I am sorry that you think the way you do.
Thank you for your concern for my mental wellbeing.
Back on topic, in my opinion, the words that Mourinho utters at a given point in time is the thought that he possesses at that point in time. It doesn't mean that it will prevent hypocrisy. I could have a thought right now that contradicted a thought that I had five years ago. It doesn't mean that I am somehow less genuine, just because I express my current thought, which might contradict a previous thought.
Wow, so I see the point you're trying to prove but u just a do horrible job at trying to prove it."contradictions aren't contradictions if they're years apart, Obviously!!!" Lol.

If my analogy doesn't satisfy the parameters that you have created, then I will modify it, just for you.

If Mouinho thinks and says that apples are delicious yesterday, then thinks and says apples are not delicious today, does that make him a less genuine person?

He said what was on his mind on both occasions. That's called being genuine in my books.
Well I don't really care for the analogies, but all I'm saying is what makes Mou more "genuine" than pep? Seriously, what?
Nothing. These are all my personal views.

Nuff said.
Well yes, since again you cannot provide a decent answer. Nuff said indeed.
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Post by LeSwagg James Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:09 am

I don't care about Guardiala... It's his players that I want to punch in the face :coffee:
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:17 pm

Kevacious wrote:Personally, I just feel that he's a fake and phony person that only appears to be respectful in order to garner appreciation, sympathy and adoration from the general populace. He's just one of the reason why some people feel that Barcelona has a "holier than thou" attitude. Mourinho, on the other hand, in my view, is a man that speaks is mind and is extremely genuine. That's why a lot of his words are politically incorrect and offensive. Clearly, only one of the two aforementioned coaches is here to make friends and become popular.

That's just my feeling and views, and is NOT representative of the views of all Real Madrid fans on this forum.

See Kev, thats what I'm not understanding, how is it that you can accuse him of being fake and phony while Pep really hasn't shown anything to be of suspect or to loath upon him. Do you feel this through your instinct? Your personal talent in reading people maybe?

And the reason I did make this thread was that a decent number of RM fans actually gave me the idea to write this through their thoughts on Pep as I haven't really heard this from outside the forum
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Post by Adit Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:24 pm

He didnt talk to Ibra for last 6 months lol,if he was a true gentle man type of manager/straight forward he would have meet ibra and tell him to perform better or he isnt working in his tactics.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:27 pm

As by the incredibly weak answers given, you can see people dont have any reason whatsoever. I wasnt surprised nobody can give any legit answer whatsoever.

I find it amazing people consider Mourinho genuine by the way. He is the one who puts on an act and is fake and contrived if you ask me.

He doesnt even believe most of what he is saying, he isnt that stupid, he just puts on this act to make trouble for opponants and hopefully give him any advantage he can get.

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Post by Zealous Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:36 pm

He wears a short sleeve button up and a tie.

Nuff Said.
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Post by billy_gr Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:36 pm

That’s true. He should have handled Ibra much better.
Both from a behaviour and coaching point of view
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Post by Zealous Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:42 pm

Honestly though, he's just a guy that chooses his words carefully.

All his press conferences are him complimenting somebody and while there's nothing wrong with that you have to be joking if you believe he's 100% genuine in all his comments since you can't be everyone's friend. It's not possible.

The closest I've seen him to actually saying what he really thinks was in the 1st leg of the CL semi last year.

He looks like a nice guy and that's great but I hate the way he's shoved down our throats and how we're supposed to like him.

It doesn't help that he's Barcelona's coach either Evil or Very Mad

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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:46 pm

Adit wrote:He didnt talk to Ibra for last 6 months lol,if he was a true gentle man type of manager/straight forward he would have meet ibra and tell him to perform better or he isnt working in his tactics.

didnt keita say the same as well, even eto didnt leave on good notes

guy is a hypocrite end off
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