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Post by kiranr Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:59 pm

free_cat wrote:
FilipeFerreira wrote:The biased part is the whole article, where he makes Madrid sound like the devil, and Barca like complete angels, like everything they do is angelic and nothing they do is wrong, both teams are equally at fault.

He actually mentions that some of our players dived, so I don't see your view that he doesn't mention any bad point from Barça.
Claiming that both teams are at fault in the same level is being biased actually. It's ludicrous to put in the same level the more than 10 agressions Madrid players and Mourinho himself have done to Barça players/staff in 6 matches to some Barça diving (while Madrid also dived, Marcelo and Di Maria).

Did you see Coentrao roll over multiple time as though he was run over...

Yes Mourinho, your players play like men. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Dj.complain.alot Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:59 pm

Accept defeat move on,,

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Post by the xcx Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:00 pm

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FilipeFerreira wrote:Why did the brawl break out in the first place? A bad tackle is no reason to start a fight and I bet it was the barca bench who started the brawl with their typical ref crowding bull.

he was our new player who is expensive and have been chasing for a very long time. it was understandable to react like that. how dare you welcome our beloved cesc like that.
majority of barcelona fans did want Thiago to midfield instead of Cesc tho. Honestly Im not expecting many games from him this upcoming season.

and im not expecting many games from sahin, kaka and altintop
Sahin has a future with real madrid, but yeah kaka and altintop are just backup players obv. You cannot expect anything more from them.
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Post by kiranr Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:00 pm

Mamad wrote:We were better than Barca in bot games. they were lucky, thats it.

everybody forgets the game and how we outplayed Barca in both games ( nobody played against them like this in last 2 years ) and everybody is talking about Marcelo and Mourinho.

LOL. Two lucky scrappy goals from the corner and you call us lucky? Everyone creates their own luck. Madrid played very well, but can't say they were better (not saying they were worse either).
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Post by SaintJoe Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:03 pm

Too much whining nowadays. Why can't people talk about the game. grrr
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Post by Giggslegend Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:04 pm

This is the outcome of Mourinho´s extreme winning obsession. Just think of it, losing make him do some childish stuff. Losing many times against same oponent make him do even worse
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Post by harhar11 Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:06 pm

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football_genius wrote:
FilipeFerreira wrote:Why did the brawl break out in the first place? A bad tackle is no reason to start a fight and I bet it was the barca bench who started the brawl with their typical ref crowding bull.

he was our new player who is expensive and have been chasing for a very long time. it was understandable to react like that. how dare you welcome our beloved cesc like that.
majority of barcelona fans did want Thiago to midfield instead of Cesc tho. Honestly Im not expecting many games from him this upcoming season.

I am though, Xavi is getting injury prone so he will be rotating with fabregas while thiago will be rotating more with iniesta...

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Post by Dj.complain.alot Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:06 pm

I hate Ronaldo, but respect to him yesterday match he dont fight, RESPECT

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Post by harhar11 Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:10 pm

Crimson wrote:I like how everyone forgets Xavi trying to break Coentrao's leg...

Trying to break his leg? hahahaha where do you get all of this from? Khedira did exactly the same tackle on busquets..

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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:11 pm

Mamad wrote:We were better than Barca in both games. they were lucky, thats it.

everybody forgets the game and how we outplayed Barca in both games ( nobody played against them like this in last 2 years ) and everybody is talking about Marcelo and Mourinho.
Are you joking? Lucky? If I'm not mistaken your first goal took a deflection on its way to Ronaldo and your second goal was an error from a clearance, Madrid were lucky.

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Post by Dj.complain.alot Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:11 pm

pussy poke and then run

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Post by harhar11 Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:12 pm

kiranr wrote:
free_cat wrote:
FilipeFerreira wrote:The biased part is the whole article, where he makes Madrid sound like the devil, and Barca like complete angels, like everything they do is angelic and nothing they do is wrong, both teams are equally at fault.

He actually mentions that some of our players dived, so I don't see your view that he doesn't mention any bad point from Barça.
Claiming that both teams are at fault in the same level is being biased actually. It's ludicrous to put in the same level the more than 10 agressions Madrid players and Mourinho himself have done to Barça players/staff in 6 matches to some Barça diving (while Madrid also dived, Marcelo and Di Maria).

Did you see Coentrao roll over multiple time as though he was run over...

Yes Mourinho, your players play like men. Rolling Eyes

Don't forget sergio ramos and pepe..

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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:14 pm

SaintJoe wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:Mourinho is a 48 year old man, Valdez is young and hot headed, you would expect someone of Mourinho's stature to act a bit more maturely than a 27 year old.

3-4 days ago you opened a thread complaining about an U-20 portuguese player who showed the middle finger to the fans and you started throwing insults left and right to the whole team.

But a 27 year old GK who assaults a coach is 'young and hot headed'.

Right Wink
After just losing a match while the pinnacle of all douchebaggery stands there with his finger up after he scraped past Valdez's team Valdez got a little pissed, he didn't hurt him or try to while Mourinho tried to pull that guys *bleep* eye out ffs. About the u20 player, he was completely unprovoked the kid is just a little c*nt.

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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:18 pm

Hilarious how Mourinho criticized Barca for apparently using strategy that "small teams" use when he just parked the bus 4 games in a row a couple months ago, this guy is the biggest hypocritical scum I've ever seen, a complete disgrace to football and an embarrassment to the institution of Real Madrid.

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Post by arabprince Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:19 pm

The article wasn't biased. Just because a writer has something negative to say about a coach/team, doesn't mean what he says is biased.

What Mourinho did was despicable. You can't defend what he did. He walked up to Tito, and tried to jam his finger in his head. How can you defend that? It wasn't even as if it was a mistake, he knew what he was doing. I'm speaking as a neutral, because I like and dislike madrid and barca equally. Hell I'm a fan of Mourinho, the guy is an amazing coach. But his actions are utterly disgraceful.

As was Marcelo's tackle. His tackle was blatant and unnecessary and very harmful. I understand he was getting abused by the crowd, but that is no excuse. Players have to endure a great deal of criticism and hate, but that doesn't make it acceptable for them to do these actions.

The actions of Mourinho and Marcelo are disgraceful to football and should not be defended by anyone. The article makes a good point.
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Post by SaintJoe Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:24 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:After just losing a match while the pinnacle of all douchebaggery stands there with his finger up after he scraped past Valdez's team Valdez got a little pissed, he didn't hurt him or try to while Mourinho tried to pull that guys *bleep* eye out ffs. About the u20 player, he was completely unprovoked the kid is just a little c*nt.

I don't get you. A mature man (27?) assaults a coach, but he's just 'a little pissed'. Maybe he was provoked, maybe not, irrelevant.

An U-20 kid shows the middle finger to some fans (not physical assault) and he's a 'little c*nt'. And how do you know he was unprovoked? You don't.

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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:25 pm

SaintJoe wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:After just losing a match while the pinnacle of all douchebaggery stands there with his finger up after he scraped past Valdez's team Valdez got a little pissed, he didn't hurt him or try to while Mourinho tried to pull that guys *bleep* eye out ffs. About the u20 player, he was completely unprovoked the kid is just a little c*nt.

I don't get you. A mature man (27?) assaults a coach, but he's just 'a little pissed'. Maybe he was provoked, maybe not, irrelevant.

An U-20 kid shows the middle finger to some fans (not physical assault) and he's a 'little c*nt'. And how do you know he was unprovoked? You don't.

It wasn't to the fans it was to the players that just lost a penalty shootout.

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Post by white_star Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:25 pm

Pulis no!

Madrid fans always saying we will be better this year, 4 years now you can't beat barca except the copa del Rey, where does the confidence come from lol
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Post by FilipeFerreira Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:25 pm

SaintJoe wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:After just losing a match while the pinnacle of all douchebaggery stands there with his finger up after he scraped past Valdez's team Valdez got a little pissed, he didn't hurt him or try to while Mourinho tried to pull that guys *bleep* eye out ffs. About the u20 player, he was completely unprovoked the kid is just a little c*nt.

I don't get you. A mature man (27?) assaults a coach, but he's just 'a little pissed'. Maybe he was provoked, maybe not, irrelevant.

An U-20 kid shows the middle finger to some fans (not physical assault) and he's a 'little c*nt'. And how do you know he was unprovoked? You don't.


Theres no point in trying to talk sense into him.
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Post by cyberman Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:26 pm

the best player in the world is broken in half by a thug, 1 teammate loses his rag...his teammates calm him down

no theatrics from CR7, the benches dont empty out, they dont surround the ref or scream for a card

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAJeMiEhvvs&feature=player_embedded

Last night? even Messi was petulant. look at CR7 during the brawl..he cant believe whats happening. Thats his Utd education.

Cr7 is more professional, and a better football example, than any Barca player

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Post by paperbackwriter Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:26 pm

Where is the hate for the Barcelona time wasting? When it was 2-1, every Barcelona player was down for 2 minutes in every challenge. Best example was Pedro who also refused to go off the pitch even when instructed to by the ref.The ball boys stopped giving the balls to players. They even threw one ball into the pitch when the game was on to get the ref to stop the game.

Absolutely disgraceful. OK to tool and play the ball around in the backline or cover it by the corner flag. But about 10 minutes were wasted, when taking freekicks, faking injuries and none existant ball boys. After Barcelonas second goal.
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:27 pm

FilipeFerreira wrote:
SaintJoe wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:After just losing a match while the pinnacle of all douchebaggery stands there with his finger up after he scraped past Valdez's team Valdez got a little pissed, he didn't hurt him or try to while Mourinho tried to pull that guys *bleep* eye out ffs. About the u20 player, he was completely unprovoked the kid is just a little c*nt.

I don't get you. A mature man (27?) assaults a coach, but he's just 'a little pissed'. Maybe he was provoked, maybe not, irrelevant.

An U-20 kid shows the middle finger to some fans (not physical assault) and he's a 'little c*nt'. And how do you know he was unprovoked? You don't.


Theres no point in trying to talk sense into him.
Says the Benfica/Mourinho fan hahahaha

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Post by Vibe Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:28 pm

Or just a pussy Laughing
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Post by paperbackwriter Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:28 pm

And Xavis tackle on Coentrao was much more dangerous than Marcelos on Fabregas. You can't even get that much power standing still and scissoring. Not saying that Marcelo shouldn't have seen red. But the fact that Xavi went out and said that "Marcelo tried to injure Cesc!" when his tackle was way worse in terms of danger... Xavi knew what he was doing, he knew he couldn't get the ball but got the player. Now Barcelona fans are going to deny the same ability to read players movement and Xavis perfect timing that they have been hailing for 5 years.
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Post by Guest Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:31 pm

Ummm... Benfica are arch-rivals of Porto. You do realize this, correct?

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Post by free_cat Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:31 pm

paperbackwriter wrote:And Xavis tackle on Coentrao was much more dangerous than Marcelos on Fabregas. You can't even get that much power standing still and scissoring. Not saying that Marcelo shouldn't have seen red. But the fact that Xavi went out and said that "Marcelo tried to injure Cesc!" when his tackle was way worse in terms of danger... Xavi knew what he was doing, he knew he couldn't get the ball but got the player. Now Barcelona fans are going to deny the same ability to read players movement and Xavis perfect timing that they have been hailing for 5 years.

Poor Madrid player's! One of them received a harsh tackle by a Barça player in 6 matches!!
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