Re: Ballon D'or 2024

by The Madrid One Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:13 am

Yawn.

As I've said previously, even when Vini was the projected winner, Balon d'Or is by design... BS. A guilty pleasure.

I don't care for "humiliation" talks, I don't feel that, only thing I do think about is that I hope Vini and his entourage use this as an opportunity to strengthen Vini's mentality, strengthen his support network, and as an opportunity to further refine his priorities (i.e. focus++ on team trophies). This can do us well as an institution and fan base. Further open our eyes to priorities.

I think any outage from Vini, the club, or fans mainly comes more from a sense that there may be "corrupt" bias, manipulation, and pulling of strings behind the scenes that has influenced the result, all this coming about from dense political/propaganda reasons.

Spilt milk under the bridge.

*Flips page.

by Harmonica Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:39 am

Would have given it to Bellingham, but at least Rodri deserved this ahead of Vinicius so that's good.

by halamadrid2 Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:07 am

Albanian journalist votes for Ballon d'Or:

1: Rodri
2: Yamal
3: Carvajal
4: Bellingham
5: Rüdiger
6: Haaland
7: Lautaro
8: Vinicius
9: Mbappe
10: Xhaka
— Madrid Xtra (@MadridXtra) October 29, 2024

Lol

by Varnagel Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:10 am

Objectively speaking, Vinicius's so called "Ballon d'Or campaign" is grossly overrated.

He was not even Madrid's best player (it's Bellingham) & underperformed for Brazil.

Rodri's numbers for a defensive midfielder is extremley impressive. If defensive contributions like tackles and interceptions were included, the gulf would be even wider.

The way people had talked about Vinicius really made it seem like he was a lot more impressive than he was. Only 37 goal contributions are very pedestrian for 'Best player in the world'.

Ballon D'or 2024 - Page 9 DkV70kt

by Myesyats Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:28 am

The Madrid One wrote:Yawn.

As I've said previously, even when Vini was the projected winner, Balon d'Or is by design... BS. A guilty pleasure.

I don't care for "humiliation" talks, I don't feel that, only thing I do think about is that I hope Vini and his entourage use this as an opportunity to strengthen Vini's mentality, strengthen his support network, and as an opportunity to further refine his priorities (i.e. focus++ on team trophies). This can do us well as an institution and fan base. Further open our eyes to priorities.

I think any outage from Vini, the club, or fans mainly comes more from a sense that there may be "corrupt" bias, manipulation, and pulling of strings behind the scenes that has influenced the result, all this coming about from dense political/propaganda reasons.

Spilt milk under the bridge.

*Flips page.

RM fans should not blame UEFA, B'dor, hidden agendas, corruption, extraterrestrials or anyone.

You should blame Bellingham PR and no-one else = for splitting the vote

I dont remember the exact tallies but it may be similar to when Xavi-Iniesta-Messi were on the podium, the spaniards also probably split the vote between them and Messi won

Also, what Varnagel said - Vinicius is not so clear off as you think.

by Myesyats Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:34 am

halamadrid2 wrote:
Myesyats wrote:
farfan wrote: Barça fans aren't even bothering making the case for Rodri, they're just celebrating a Madrid player that they hate not winning it
What
Well of course it's true

The case is obvious and has been made many times over, Madrid pr spreading fake ratings on social media don't change that Laughing

Rodri in the 23/24 season btw. No one was as consistent as him #Rodri4BallonDor pic.twitter.com/vx1l9UGWKo
— 17 (@DxBruyneSZN) October 28, 2024

Madrid fans are just living in their own bubble and think the world is against them meanwhile they are the most privileged club in Spain and the world since its inception

by jibers Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:35 pm

It's crazy people thought that this was ordained for Vini. Was not great int the 1st half of the season, wasn't the best in laliga and was mid in the Copa. Doing well in a few games in the cl when his stats arent Messi CRonaldo level is never going to make you the outright winner

Bellingham was being called the best player in the world at the start of the season and rightfully won best player in the league. Had a trash Euros performance wise but had some clutch moments and England reached the final

Last thing people forget is that the BDO takes into account the behaviour of the nominees and Vini is straight up unlikeable. He does dumb shit to opposition almost every game and is just a shit stirrer.

by Myesyats Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:41 pm

jibers wrote:
Last thing people forget is that the BDO takes into account the behaviour of the nominees and Vini is straight up unlikeable. He does dumb shit to opposition almost every game and is just a shit stirrer.

Madrid fans think this is not a valid criteria because they all behave like that and dont see anything wrong with his antics Laughing

by Myesyats Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:44 pm

jibers wrote:Doing well in a few games in the cl when his stats arent Messi CRonaldo level is never going to make you the outright winner.

Messi had like 70 g/a when Modric won, and he was 5th Ballon D'or 2024 - Page 9 1f602

never seen him complaining, because deep down if you know you are the best you are calm and at peace

by jibers Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:49 pm

Myesyats wrote:
jibers wrote:Doing well in a few games in the cl when his stats arent Messi CRonaldo level is never going to make you the outright winner.

Messi had like 70 g/a when Modric won, and he was 5th

never seen him complaining, because deep down if you know you are the best you are calm and at peace

Yes, but at least Modric had the PR of performing in the WC. And WC usually trumps everything in the normal BDO format (not fifa BDO)

Same reason Messi won it over Haaland.

Vini was a flop in the copa and was injured and unspectacular for over half a season

He is just unlikeable man

Also I feel trouble i brewing in Madrid, Mbappe and Bellingham ar happy Vini didnt win it

by Myesyats Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:52 pm

jibers wrote:
Myesyats wrote:
jibers wrote:Doing well in a few games in the cl when his stats arent Messi CRonaldo level is never going to make you the outright winner.

Messi had like 70 g/a when Modric won, and he was 5th

never seen him complaining, because deep down if you know you are the best you are calm and at peace

Yes, but at least Modric had the PR of performing in the WC. And WC usually trumps everything in the normal BDO format (not fifa BDO)

true, even griezmann was ahead of messi because of WC but im just saying its crazy to be 5th with these stats and here vini is acting like Cristiano Ronaldo with 30 g/a

by farfan Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:54 pm

Myesyats wrote:
jibers wrote:
Last thing people forget is that the BDO takes into account the behaviour of the nominees and Vini is straight up unlikeable. He does dumb shit to opposition almost every game and is just a shit stirrer.

Madrid fans think this is not a valid criteria because they all behave like that and dont see anything wrong with his antics

People forget this but behavior and antics were even more emphasized as a criteria in the past. Headbutting a guy literally cost Zidane the BO in 2000 Laughing

by farfan Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:06 pm

S wrote:Rough week for farfarce and the rest of the Real Madrid crew

I'm here for the butthurt and the tears

And we're here to witness you slowly deflate each week after you thought you were on the cusp of a footballing revolution at the start of the season Proud

by futbol_bill Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:12 pm

Reality check!

Best teams of the season were Real Madrid and Spain NT, with City slightly behind.

Many of the media, who are also fans, are anti Madrid, just like you see here on this forum.

Those voting for Madrid were split between Vinicius, Bellingham and Carvajal plus a few votes to other madridistas on the list like Valverde.

all 4 had very good performances, but in my mind, Vinicius stands out as best, but the split vote robbed him of it.

What’s not right is that Vinicius personality affected the vote nor the talk that he wasn’t Madrid’s best performer. Yes, Bellingham was the best in the first half, while Vinicius was out (twice) with injuries and in second half Bellingham faded and Vinicius scored critical winning goals in both liga and CL.

by Pedram Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:15 pm

Meh tis nothing but a scratch. you can have your fun at our expense haters but you know we've survived harsher blows and came back stronger. :coffee:

by jibers Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:39 pm

futbol_bill wrote:Reality check!

Best teams of the season were Real Madrid and Spain NT, with City slightly behind.

Many of the media, who are also fans, are anti Madrid, just like you see here on this forum.

Those voting for Madrid were split between Vinicius, Bellingham and Carvajal plus a few votes to other madridistas on the list like Valverde.

all 4 had very good performances, but in my mind, Vinicius stands out as best, but the split vote robbed him of it.

What’s not right is that Vinicius personality affected the vote nor the talk that he wasn’t Madrid’s best performer. Yes, Bellingham was the best in the first half, while Vinicius was out (twice) with injuries and in second half Bellingham faded and Vinicius scored critical winning goals in both liga and CL.

I dont think being anti madrid has anything to do with it tbh. If anything it's vini's behaviour and the vote being split. Same thing happened with Spain in 2010.

All I'm saying is Vini was not the outright best player over the course of last season. Rodri was more consistent than every single one of them.

Hopefully this wakes Vini up and he behaves properly, but he might face hell as opposition fans will troll him to death.

Thinking that an award is pre ordained for you is crazy work .

Completely classless from Madrid not to attend.

by Myesyats Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:59 pm

futbol_bill wrote:Many of the media, who are also fans, are anti Madrid, just like you see here on this forum

every media is sucking Madrid off , most recent example: listen to ESPN and other "experts" refusing to even give us credit for clasico trashing they just can't swallow it

All this RM crying overshadowed the fact that Yamal was 8th in his first professional season. Happy for the boy :bow:

by Myesyats Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:59 pm

Pedram wrote:Meh tis nothing but a scratch. you can have your fun at our expense haters but you know we've survived harsher blows and came back stronger.

You care a lot for an award that supposedly no-one cares about anymore hmm

by Myesyats Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:07 pm

Myesyats wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:Many of the media, who are also fans, are anti Madrid, just like you see here on this forum

every media is sucking Madrid off , most recent example: listen to ESPN and other "experts" refusing to even give us credit for clasico trashing they just can't swallow it

All this RM crying overshadowed the fact that Yamal was 8th in his first professional season. Happy for the boy

by Pedram Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:17 pm

Myesyats wrote:
Pedram wrote:Meh tis nothing but a scratch. you can have your fun at our expense haters but you know we've survived harsher blows and came back stronger.

You care a lot for an award that supposedly no-one cares about anymore

It doesn't personally effect me but i'm worried about Vini and how it might effect his performance, if it does we're fucked cause Mbappe is still in La La land. Laughing

by Harmonica Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:59 pm

by halamadrid2 Tue Oct 29, 2024 3:55 pm

Czechia’s journalist had Vini Jr. at 9th place in his Ballon d’Or votes. @elchiringuitotv pic.twitter.com/YleOSyjHyH
— Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone) October 29, 2024

by Pedram Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:07 pm

They also put Yamal in third place too, they might just be Cules. Laughing

by El Gunner Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:11 pm

Madrid fans all of a sudden acting like the ultimate victims is beyond hilarious...

never met a more cringe and delusional fanbase in my life

by Myesyats Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:13 pm

Harmonica wrote:

Messi was the best in every year bar 16/17 where Neymar minimally edged him

this is insane

by Myesyats Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:16 pm

Pedram wrote:They also put Yamal in third place too, they might just be Cules.

Okay so I live in Eastern Europe (or as we prefer to say Central Europe) and my friend's exact words when Yamal was racially abused in clasico: "Damn, Vini deserves it but I feel bad for Yamal"

He prefers RM over Barca too Laughing

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