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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:37 am

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-champions-league-format-explained/

-The CL is being expanded from 32 to 36 teams: 1 to the 5th largest league, 2 to the teams with the highest UEFA coefficients that weren't able to qualify and 1 to the highest league champion that didn't qualify
-Groups are being scrapped, and everyone will share a single league
-10 games will be played by each team, 5 home and 5 away
-The top 8 will automatically qualify for the last 16
-The top 9-24 will have a seeded knockout to make the last 16
-Bottom teams no longer feed into Europa league
-UEFA in talks with investment banks over 5B stake in project
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:38 am

So much for the pyramid, 4 new slots just to protect the biggest teams and make sure they're always there, even if they don't have the performance to back it up

More games, but they mean less, as 75% of the teams move on to the next round anyways

Seeded knockout will also ensure that the biggest teams are always the favorites to go through and don't kick each other out too early

...The ESL might not be happening, but this is definitely bringing us a few steps closer to that direction. I'm surprised the clubs complained at all with such a sweet deal coming their way.
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Post by Warrior Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:51 am

UEFA: everything you need to know about the new format. Click here

Me: how you make the schedule ??

UEFA: what

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Post by sportsczy Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:09 am

There are rumors that, given events the past 2 days, this is not going to be the final format in the sense that the elite teams will have to earn it more.

But that may be just sensationalist journalism.

I don't hate it honestly. You're not taking opportunities from anyone, which is key here.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:19 am

I do kind of hate it. There's no group of death, no drama, the group stage will not mean anything at all. Why even turn in to watch meaningless matches?

Today Barca goes to Russia and you know there's a decent chance they lose that game and it matters. In 4 years they lose that game but who cares, 9 more to go. Big teams will probably face each other more, but the stakes are lower.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:27 am

It's more akin to league play than cup play early on... I agree. So each game on its own means a little less. But in the end, the best teams are more likely to move on to elimination rounds.

It's not as spectacular early on... but I watch football with less an eye on the final result unless it's a team I'm interested in. I'm curious about performances.

Also BC, the galactico era we've seen over the past 20-25 years is over imo. Big clubs just can't afford it. So i think games get a lot more interesting.
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Post by Perucho21 Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:57 am

But I thought we saved football?
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Post by Vibe Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:07 am

So Champions League is becoming Super League, just keeping the name.

Flo :bow:
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Post by Perucho21 Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:09 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-champions-league-format-explained/

-The CL is being expanded from 32 to 36 teams: 1 to the 5th largest league, 2 to the teams with the highest UEFA coefficients that weren't able to qualify and 1 to the highest league champion that didn't qualify
-Groups are being scrapped, and everyone will share a single league
-10 games will be played by each team, 5 home and 5 away
-The top 8 will automatically qualify for the last 16
-The top 9-24 will have a seeded knockout to make the last 16
-Bottom teams no longer feed into Europa league
-UEFA in talks with investment banks over 5B stake in project


So basically.... the super league lol
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Post by sportsczy Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:16 am

Keep in mind that the EPL teams, who will have the most money, will have 5 teams in there guaranteed...  let's say Man U, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Leicester City.  My guess is that 1 of the extra high coefficient teams will be EPL too... so call it Tottenham.

Germany will have 5 teams...  Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig, etc.

Spain...  Madrid, Atletico, Barca, Sevilla and Villareal

Italy...  Inter, Juve, Atalanta, AC MIlan, Lazio

France...  PSG, Lille, Lyon, Monaco and OM (lol)

Add Porto, etc.

Out of these...  30 good teams I'll call it, only 8 make it automatically in the round of 16 after the first 10 pool games.  The other 22 have to play an extra elimination round.

I think a lot of them will want to make they make the top 8.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:20 am

Perucho21 wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-champions-league-format-explained/

-The CL is being expanded from 32 to 36 teams: 1 to the 5th largest league, 2 to the teams with the highest UEFA coefficients that weren't able to qualify and 1 to the highest league champion that didn't qualify
-Groups are being scrapped, and everyone will share a single league
-10 games will be played by each team, 5 home and 5 away
-The top 8 will automatically qualify for the last 16
-The top 9-24 will have a seeded knockout to make the last 16
-Bottom teams no longer feed into Europa league
-UEFA in talks with investment banks over 5B stake in project


So basically.... the super league lol

You're not this daft. You still have to make top 5 and this extra 2 "coefficient teams" will have a lot of competiton.

So everyone will need to make top 5 in their leagues... which is by no means guaranteed by some of those so called "founder" clubs.

With finances evening out, the elite aren't going to be able to pay the transfer fees for the next few years = much more parity.

These so-called "elite teams" are afraid of EPL and the fact that their success is no longer guaranteed by the money gap they've enjoyed the past 25 years.

That's the point.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:45 am

Well said @sportsczy
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Post by El Gunner Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:18 am

so much for reform lol

sportsczy wrote:Keep in mind that the EPL teams, who will have the most money, will have 5 teams in there guaranteed...  let's say Man U, City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Leicester City.  My guess is that 1 of the extra high coefficient teams will be EPL too... so call it Tottenham.

Germany will have 5 teams...  Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig, etc.

Spain...  Madrid, Atletico, Barca, Sevilla and Villareal

Italy...  Inter, Juve, Atalanta, AC MIlan, Lazio

France...  PSG, Lille, Lyon, Monaco and OM (lol)

Add Porto, etc.

Out of these...  30 good teams I'll call it, only 8 make it automatically in the round of 16 after the first 10 pool games.  The other 22 have to play an extra elimination round.

I think a lot of them will want to make they make the top 8.

lol on this Arsenal shade... we have a higher coefficient ranking than the Titsy Tots and Leicester
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:50 pm

So if we finish 10th and Betis finish 4th they'll get shafted for us because we have a higher coefficient?

Lol Flo was right. Wtf is this shit
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Post by BarcaLearning Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:27 pm

Hang on, Ligue will have top 5 in it for example doesnt sound right? U could argue Serie A having 5 the same as EPL is strange too, unless of course if the Serie A teams earn it by doing well in previous year or so like how it works today?
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Post by rincon Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:34 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:So if we finish 10th and Betis finish 4th they'll get shafted for us because we have a higher coefficient?

Lol Flo was right. Wtf is this shit

No, if you finish 10th and Betis finish 4th, Betis qualifies and you stay home.

What you call "this shit" is exactly what Florentino wants, Madrid qualifying regardless of league position.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:40 pm

Out of the frying pan and into the fire Molenation

honestly though, clear still much better than the Super League

even if the get out of jail card "coefficient" crap is annyoing

all in all, doesn't actually sound that bad
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Post by Sina Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:31 pm

That play off round between teams placed 9th to 24th sounds needless and boring since they will be seeded but whatever that generates more money with more guaranteed matches since its not about quality right?

But it says Other competitions will also adopt similar format!!!
Europa league Group stage even more Cancerous ffs
Was hoping they scrap its Group stage and make it Pure knock out comp like old Uefa cup...

But if such a thing was in place since 2017, then i think Arsenal would have never missed out on CL Football due to Co-efficient points albino
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:25 pm

Sina wrote:
But if such a thing was in place since 2017, then i think Arsenal would have never missed out on CL Football due to Co-efficient points albino


You've got that backwards
Arsenal had good coefficient points as Wenger never had you miss CL.
now is a different story
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