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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:00 pm

Bilbao v Barca game ends in a draw

Can live with that

But my God how boring was this game. It wasn't the usual Bilbao who must've felt the fatigue after the midweek game.

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Post by The Madrid One Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:00 pm

Barcelona cucked by a superior team. Divine justice.
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Post by futbol_bill Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:50 pm

Other refs are commenting on the awful call at end of Valencia - RMad game. They are saying it was a horrendous call and he obvious made an error and even worse for a ref with 11 years of experience. Apparently the call will be discussed at something called CTA on Friday.
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Post by Jack Daniels Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:39 pm

the xcx wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:I hope someone buys Nico Williams. He deserves a better career than his brothers

I agree
10 effin' years

You can keep your forum status. albino
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Post by the xcx Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:04 pm

Why does it always have to end up in total chaos at Mestalla. It was very entertaining game though
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Post by sportsczy Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:09 pm

It's not an error in the sense that extra time is completely at the discretion of the referee.  No matter what happens, he said 7 minutes of extra time and he can whistle any time he wishes after the 7 min mark.  

What he's done is break the unwritten code of refereeing that is to let the play finish before whistling.  Also, there was a VAR check so it should have been 9 mins really but that's up to him to add it.

Regardless, it's not an error but a lack of judgment in the spirit of the game. Hard to explain.
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Post by Doc Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:29 am

sportsczy wrote:Regardless, it's not an error but a lack of judgment in the spirit of the game. Hard to explain.


That's how I saw his decision as well tbh. Shit, he did the exact same thing to Valencia at the end of the first half with the obvious difference being Jude scored.

Alas, I really cannot believe this match of the weekend for La Liga was Getafe-Las Palmas. Also, glad to see you guys still being awesome.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:54 am

Doc! Where have you been lol.
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:46 am

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Post by BarcaLearning Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:12 pm

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It'll be a miracle if we win this league. We've declared war with the referees and Tebas.


Real fan trying to make it look like this will be a hard won league title? Loool

But just finished watching, it was pretty incredible decision, I guess he thought he gave enough added time already n never thought once he blew the cross would end up in another Bellingham winner Very Happy

But yea, Real fans thinking Flo n the refs arent in bed is so funny. Rodrygo no punishment at all for the barge into Gaya off the ball was just another example of Real getting away with things every game.
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Post by Doc Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:24 pm

sportsczy wrote:Doc! Where have you been lol.

Mostly working tbh and other shenanigans single men tend get themselves into.

Now that I finally got more free time, well, decided to see if you guys were still around and, well, here you are.
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Post by BarcaLearning Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:28 pm

Vaguely remember xcx as one of those really annoying Real fans actually Very Happy Welcome back, look forward to even more arguments as rivals then lool
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Post by BarcaLearning Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:32 pm

Actually wonder why Mendy tends to be the starting LB still for Real? Are u Real fans actually happy with him? I thought he was good at one point, but seems like every match a see him make a huge mistake... solid n strong overall but prolly not good enough to be a Real LB imho? Is this why ur going for Davies? Razz


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Post by Myesyats Tue Mar 05, 2024 5:02 pm

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halamadrid2 wrote:  

It'll be a miracle if we win this league. We've declared war with the referees and Tebas.


Real fan trying to make it look like this will be a hard won league title? Loool

If barca had to print an official statement every time they get fucked over they'd have no ink and paper left for 100 years.

Also stating that the ball was in the air when the whistle blew is kind of misleading, actually the videos show the whistle doesnt come mid-flight as they're trying to paint it. Did papa write this himself?

Manzano whistle in a similar manner for the 1st half when Valencia was midway through their attack so I guess this is just what this ref does Laughing
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Post by BarcaLearning Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:02 pm

Real fans will never admit ref favours, nothing new, n complain n accuse us whenever there is a call against them, etc. Very Happy

Meanwhile Girona lost again so Real are 7 points clear already, n we are just one point behind even having just drawn lol... glad to know even in our state, the league might be too weak for us to ever miss out on top 4? Very Happy
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Post by Thimmy Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:34 pm

Sometimes calls favor us, other times they screw us over. I don’t doubt that we tend to get more favorable calls than smaller clubs do, but that likely goes for Barca and other, top teams in their respective leagues as well.

I still recall those two weeks where CR was sent off for gently shoving a ref in the back, while Messi got off without consequence for actually pushing the ref to the ground the following week. No two refs are the same, and I don’t expect them all to share the same points of views on various situations, because they don’t.

I still think VAR could be a good thing, but it will remain flawed as long as the ref who’s visible on the field makes glaring, human errors, overrides decisions made by VAR, refuses to utilize VAR, and is approachable by players who may want to crowd or attempt to influence them.
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Post by titosantill Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:17 pm

There's nothing to admit regarding ref favors it's not calciopolli. Refs do make mistakes and it can go either way. The game is fast paced and on average, calls may go for the bigger side than smaller side. But part of that has to do with the team and skillset. If I'm constantly on the attack, I have more chances for a free kick or pk than my opponent and potential for mistakes as a result. On the defensive end, if you've barely done any forward movement and first half a chance you get a pk, ref might ignore if its not clear enough, simply because they think you're desperate.

I could be totally wrong and none of the above applies, but that's how I see refereeing in general regarding bigger teams getting calls. As far as the Valencia game, I hated it, but it was a silly mistake. I'm more upset at the team for not being able to do away with an off brand football club like Valencia (i hate that club), than at the ref.

I've always felt against off brand sides like Valencia, if you play well enough with full concentration, that can offset potential for ref errors or defensive slip ups. The Mestalla isn't an easy ground, but still we should have done better.
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Post by BarcaLearning Wed Mar 06, 2024 4:46 am

Agree with u guys, actual more unbiased Real fans around which there are some, but unfortunately there r so many on the other end who r nearing delusional Very Happy

Anyway, Real will be fine, I actually respect the current Real a lot since they never panic n have good mentality to come back into games so often. Even Vini getting to much stick all game he scored them two goals. One of the Valencia goals were give away by Carvarjal anyway so...
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Post by BarcaLearning Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:37 am

Frenkie n Pedri out for at least a month... oh well, our MF back to Gundo, Fermin n Christensen... actually fearing for our CL chance now... Sad
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Post by futbol_bill Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:39 pm

BarcaLearning wrote:Agree with u guys, actual more unbiased Real fans around which there are some, but unfortunately there r so many on the other end who r nearing delusional Very Happy

Anyway, Real will be fine, I actually respect the current Real a lot since they never panic n have good mentality to come back into games so often. Even Vini getting to much stick all game he scored them two goals. One of the Valencia goals were give away by Carvarjal anyway so...

Pot calling Kettle black!
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Post by sportsczy Wed Mar 06, 2024 11:00 pm

That's a red card on Vini all day every day btw... you shove a guy with both hands, very hard, that puts him on the ground.

No idea that ended up just a yellow card.
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Post by Doc Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:04 am

sportsczy wrote:That's a red card on Vini all day every day btw...  you shove a guy with both hands, very hard, that puts him on the ground.

No idea that ended up just a yellow card.  

I was patiently waiting for VAR to jump in and kindly nudge the ref to go and pick a different colour. No lie, Vini got away big time. I dare say, the ref may have been wrong in his decision too.
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Post by Thimmy Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:16 am

Reports are claiming that Ancelotti is under suspicion of tax fraud. Hopefully, it’s nothing serious and the media is just attempting to generate hysteria.
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Post by Myesyats Thu Mar 07, 2024 1:47 pm

I can explain, Vini is aiming to become a masseuse after his career in fighting racism is over.

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Post by futbol_bill Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:07 pm

Thimmy, the Spanish tax office has been  going aggressively after what they believe is Spanish tax fraud for the past ten years. Many futbol players such as Messi, Ronaldo, Raul, Xavi Alonso, Mourinho, etc and Entertainers, such as Shakira have been charged. They also make the charges overly dramatic with a possible jail term, heavy fines and of course the amount of tax they believe they are owed. In some cases, they have been right such as both Messi and Ronaldo avoiding declaring image rights income, but in the majority it’s a question of where were they residing. In most tax laws treaties, you file in the principal country you resided in for the year, but the Spanish don’t seem to want to do that feeling they should get the tax payments. They go after these players / managers / entertainers as the taxes are in the millions and good for publicity that everyone should pay their taxes. Eventually all these cases get settled, some with the target proven right or an agreement with what should have been the right amount or in a few cases such as Shakira, just giving in and accepting as the cost of fighting the charges and constantly flying back to Spain is not worth it.

I suspect they are in this campaign as there was a tax loop hole for years for well paid foreign futbol players and every day people questioned why they had to pay and not these millionaires. Not good for the socialists!

So back to Carlo, yes it sounds bad, but at end of day, likely in a couple of years it will be settled!
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:02 pm

Myesyats wrote:I can explain, Vini is aiming to become a masseuse after his career in fighting racism is over.

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