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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:41 pm

RealGunner wrote:this is more like a loan deal then anything, doesnt make sense. Either you sell him off completely or just loan him out

The buy back options are only for 2012 and 2013, chances are by then either Villa will still be going strong or Alexis will have replaced him as a starter. Bojan would still come back to be a sub, so I doubt that the buy-back options will ever be exercised.

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Post by S32TABLANCA Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:43 pm

RealGunner wrote:this is more like a loan deal then anything, doesnt make sense. Either you sell him off completely or just loan him out


These deals are quite common in Spain.

Anyway, bad business for Roma, good business to Barca, Luis Enrique, yada yada yada...
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Post by Adit Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:51 pm


seriously i have never heard of a top club buying a player with buy back option,shity deal for roma.13 mill buy back option?? Barca were ready to loan him out for free .

Roma wasted their 12 million lol,well luis enrique is their coach so duh
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Post by McLewis Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:59 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
RealGunner wrote:this is more like a loan deal then anything, doesnt make sense. Either you sell him off completely or just loan him out

The buy back options are only for 2012 and 2013, chances are by then either Villa will still be going strong or Alexis will have replaced him as a starter. Bojan would still come back to be a sub, so I doubt that the buy-back options will ever be exercised.

This.

Like I said earlier, Bojan would have to have an extraordinary season for us to part with 28m. He'd have to really top the charts by some way.

As RG pointed out, if he flops, we can always just sell him considering that Barca definitely wouldn't activate the buy-back clause in that case. The only way this is a bad deal for us is if Bojan actually lights up Serie A Di Natale-style. I won't speculate about how well he can do with us in the next two seasons as I haven't seen near enough of him in any competition, but expectation will certainly be high in a notoriously fickle Roman media when these types sums are being talked about.

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Post by Magricos Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:15 pm

People are forgetting the part where it isn't a buyback option.

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Post by McLewis Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:29 pm

Every report I've read has mentioned a buy-back option and says nothing about anything being "obligatory".

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Post by Adit Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:32 pm

Villa will be 32 come 2013,barca will definitely buy bojan back.

So in effect it is like a loan deal with Roma paying 6 mill/year for bojan lol

or

come 2013 guardiola getting sacked,luis enrique takes over barca with bojan.


shittst deal ever.I could negotiate better than this.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:33 pm

McLewis wrote:Every report I've read has mentioned a buy-back option and says nothing about anything being "obligatory".

I only know what the barca official site said

The Italian outfit will pay 12 million for the player and the agreement includes an obligatory repurchase clause to be exercised by FC Barcelona at the end of the 2012/13 season, for a cost of 13 million.

This purchase can be blocked by AS Roma, but in such a case the overall cost of the transfer will rise to 40 million euros.

So imo it seems like a glorified loan and Barca are desperate to sign Fabregas so selling Bojan for 2 season's will help them do that.

How i interpreted it anyway.

What i said in Roma section, I dont know what the Roma official site is saying but i think id believe the Barca official site on this matter more than any reports.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:34 pm

loool even worse, obligatory repurchase...

roma is treated worse than getafe here, turning into a farm club for barca, good job enrique
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Post by Magricos Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:36 pm

McLewis wrote:Every report I've read has mentioned a buy-back option and says nothing about anything being "obligatory".


On Barca's site they said it is obligatory.

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Post by Adit Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:37 pm

obligatory purchase??? thats worser buy back clues.who is the negotiator for roma?? Luis enrique himself??

6mill/year for bojan Laughing
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:44 pm

Looks like I was wrong. It's essentially a loan for 2 seasons. Barca get hard cash now they can use to get Cesc whereas Roma are actually getting paid to take Bojan (they make a profit of it). Everyone wins, except for Bojan lol.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:49 pm

what profit is roma making off bojan?

i only see two winners here, it's barcelona and bojan. it's brilliant business as far as im concerned.

Bojan gets playing time under a mentor in luis enrique and works towards fulfilling his potential, gets experience in a top team with the pressure that goes with it, and while he develops and improves, barca will be right back to rip the rewards.
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Post by McLewis Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:52 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Looks like I was wrong. It's essentially a loan for 2 seasons. Barca get hard cash now they can use to get Cesc whereas Roma are actually getting paid to take Bojan (they make a profit of it). Everyone wins, except for Bojan lol.

Thing is, if Bojan blows up and becomes the star he's been touted to be with us.....we're not gonna be making much profit because then we'll have to block Barca's repurchase and pay the 28m bucks in order to keep him and maximize his potential. Regardless of how he does, I just don't see us shelling out that much money for him.

@ Magricos and Mole.

You guys are right. Apologies.

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Post by maruf063 Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:52 pm

It's a shame for Roma. They are not getafe or Barca B team . They are AS Roma and they shouldn't have agreed on the obligatory repurchase clause eventhough it seems that they are getting Bojan for free. BARCA treated Roma like a serie B team...shame

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:53 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Looks like I was wrong. It's essentially a loan for 2 seasons. Barca get hard cash now they can use to get Cesc whereas Roma are actually getting paid to take Bojan (they make a profit of it). Everyone wins, except for Bojan lol.

Not really, when you factor that Barca get Bojan off the wage bill for those 2 season's.

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Post by Lord Spencer Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:54 pm

Roma can always do a Di Stefano and slap Barca in the face:

(for those who do not know, the Di Stefano move was highly conterversial, and both club went to the sporting court. The court ruled that Di Stefano should play one year for RM, and the other for Barca. RM recognized his talent, and wanted him all for themselves. Hence, they asked him to play badly in his first year with RM, which was also his first year in La Liga. Seeing how badly Di Stefano plays, Barca gave him up to RM. And the rest is history)

Two years of Bojan sucking though, not good for Roma fans Smile
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Post by McLewis Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:54 pm

We're talking about something that goes into effect two years from now.

I'm not the least bit concerned honestly. I just want Bojan to come to Rome and do well. This kid has talent and he shouldn't be wasting it on the bench, even if it is Barcelona's bench. Hopefully he justifies his price in the two years he'll have with us.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:55 pm

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:what profit is roma making off bojan?

i only see two winners here, it's barcelona and bojan. it's brilliant business as far as im concerned.

Bojan gets playing time under a mentor in luis enrique and works towards fulfilling his potential, gets experience in a top team with the pressure that goes with it, and while he develops and improves, barca will be right back to rip the rewards.
Barca ----> Roma 12M
Roma ----> Barca 13M
Profit: 1M.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:58 pm

The deal includes an obligatory buy-back clause that would see Barca re-sign the player at the end of the 2012-13 season for €13 million, but Roma can nullify the clause if they pay a further €28 million.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/936489/barcelona-confirm-bojan-krkic-agreement-with-roma?cc=5739


I really dont like this deal. Like i said before, barca should either completely sell him, or just loan him. Wtf is this obligatory clause ?

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Post by Adit Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:59 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:what profit is roma making off bojan?

i only see two winners here, it's barcelona and bojan. it's brilliant business as far as im concerned.

Bojan gets playing time under a mentor in luis enrique and works towards fulfilling his potential, gets experience in a top team with the pressure that goes with it, and while he develops and improves, barca will be right back to rip the rewards.
Barca ----> Roma 12M
Roma ----> Barca 13M
Profit: 1M.
Deposite that 12 million in bank,atleast you would get some interest.with Bojan ....... albino
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:00 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:what profit is roma making off bojan?

i only see two winners here, it's barcelona and bojan. it's brilliant business as far as im concerned.

Bojan gets playing time under a mentor in luis enrique and works towards fulfilling his potential, gets experience in a top team with the pressure that goes with it, and while he develops and improves, barca will be right back to rip the rewards.
Barca ----> Roma 12M
Roma ----> Barca 13M
Profit: 1M.

1M profit? lol

for a club that is aspiring long term to become one of the very best in italy, investing in their "own" player with that money was something they should have prioritized.

if bojan looks like a 20M rated player by the time he is done with them, they are gonna look real funny. The fee they have to pay to cancel out the deal is ridiculous, 28M? lol
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Post by RealGunner Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:01 pm

and LOL at barca valuing bojan at 41m and cesc at 33m
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:04 pm

RealGunner wrote:and LOL at barca valuing bojan at 41m and cesc at 33m

:lol!: priceless indeed
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Post by Adit Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:15 pm

Madrid treat Getafe better than this...just saying Very Happy
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Post by InterMalia Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:23 pm

Roma get 1 million to give Bojan playing time for 2 years, sounds good to me.
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