Re: The Coronavirus Thread - Part 3

[LeVersacci]

The entire world will never get the Covid vaccine. Not now not ever. Best put these foolish ambitions to rest and look for a realistic goal.

You're also ignoring animals sharing pathogens with humans unless you plan to vaccinate them all aswell?

Prehaps treat covid with how we treat the flu with yearly vaccinaction.

[Myesyats]

BTW only 35% of Ukrainians were vaccinated on day of invasion and 5.5 million refugees have fled so far.

At the height of the pandemic Lukashenko urged his people to drink vodka to prevent covid in neighboring Belarus.

There's always people and even governments that are stupid/poor, dont care or dont give a flying fuck, or purposefully try to swim against the current.

[BarcaLearning]

LeV said it... the world arent gonna get vaxed, ever... its just impossible... not unless it becomes dirt cheap n accessible n everyone including the West actually bothers to give the poor for free

[BarrileteCosmico]

The entire world will never get the Covid vaccine. Not now not ever. Best put these foolish ambitions to rest and look for a realistic goal.

You're also ignoring animals sharing pathogens with humans unless you plan to vaccinate them all aswell?

Prehaps treat covid with how we treat the flu with yearly vaccinaction.

I didn't ignore it. The pan-sarbecovirus vaccine I mentioned will be applicable to all coronaviruses, even future ones that come from animals.

And I think a lot of countries would have a lot higher vaccination rates, if they were given access to highly regarded vaccines instead of russian and chinese ones that have dubious reputations.

LeV said it... the world arent gonna get vaxed, ever... its just impossible... not unless it becomes dirt cheap n accessible n everyone including the West actually bothers to give the poor for free

Well, yes, that's exactly what I'm arguing for.

[El Gunner]

a 80 000+ Pfizer document dropped containing damning information on how rushed and improper the vaccine process was, but of course no news channels are presenting it... apparently one of the unreported findings is that they knew the vaccine was only 12% effective and not the reported 95%

https://phmpt.org/pfizers-documents/

https://insidescooppolitics.com/2022/05/03/pfizer-documents-reveal-the-ugly-truth-about-vaccine-efficacy/

[Myesyats]

but of course no news channels are presenting it...

No one is presenting it because it's untrue and not nearly as alarming as dubious anti-vax sources make it seem.  

BTW it is proven that 90% of anti-vax social media accounts which popped up during Covid are actively involved in spreading pro-russian propaganda during the war, no surprise there, shit unproven sources are most likely russian bots trying to destabilize the West. There's so many of them on twitter you can hardly get through to the real user comments.

[LeVersacci]

a 80 000+ Pfizer document dropped containing damning information on how rushed and improper the vaccine process was, but of course no news channels are presenting it... apparently one of the unreported findings is that they knew the vaccine was only 12% effective and not the reported 95%

https://phmpt.org/pfizers-documents/

https://insidescooppolitics.com/2022/05/03/pfizer-documents-reveal-the-ugly-truth-about-vaccine-efficacy/

[El Gunner]

but of course no news channels are presenting it...

No one is presenting it because it's untrue and not nearly as alarming as dubious anti-vax sources make it seem.  

BTW it is proven that 90% of anti-vax social media accounts which popped up during Covid are actively involved in spreading pro-russian propaganda during the war, no surprise there, shit unproven sources are most likely russian bots trying to destabilize the West. There's so many of them on twitter you can hardly get through to the real user comments.

where are you proofs for this?

[BarcaLearning]

Question for u guys, most countries now have majority of their pop. infected already right (as in more than half at least n knowing real numbers are more than official numbers)? Mainly by Omicron?

So then is your country's government still making vax mandatory or recommended? If so, why? My understanding is if ur infected doesnt that give u immunity for a few months at least already?

[Myesyats]

but of course no news channels are presenting it...

No one is presenting it because it's untrue and not nearly as alarming as dubious anti-vax sources make it seem.  

BTW it is proven that 90% of anti-vax social media accounts which popped up during Covid are actively involved in spreading pro-russian propaganda during the war, no surprise there, shit unproven sources are most likely russian bots trying to destabilize the West. There's so many of them on twitter you can hardly get through to the real user comments.

where are you proofs for this?

A polish research institute (IBIMS) did the ground work on this: https://www.polityka.pl/tygodnikpolityka/swiat/2156935,1,trolle-zmieniaja-front-antyszczepionkowcy-sieja-propagande-kremla.read

I dont have a source in english since, well, it's a polish institute.

Basically they followed and researched 545 twitter accounts, 2k facebook accounts,  and 4 youtube channels. Within these they found 4500 pro-war-russian posts and 90% of these accounts spread anti-vax propaganda before.

There's entire books about russian troll farms bro and how they manipulate western public opinion with it.


Same fucking bots spread anti-abortion and anti-gay propaganda depending on what the russians want to mess with in western politics.

[El Gunner]

how were those 545 accounts selected? if an account seems fishy and like a bot, then of course you will find what you looking for...

however, 545 bot accounts do not account for the millions of real people who were vax-skeptics as soon as Covid and the entire political spectacle around it started.

[Myesyats]

Why are "real people" vax-skeptics? Because they read bot posts on social media that people are collapsing in the street after taking the vaccine. Fucking simple mate.

[El Gunner]

not sure whether that's a troll post or not because surely you can't be that stupid

[Myesyats]

Surely you don't think vax-skeptics are having out-of-body experiences or thought-experiments a la Einstein and coming up with medical theorems after hours-long meditation on the implications of the laws of physics and biology. Eventually it comes down to the source from which you consume your information and whether it's credible.

[LeVersacci]

Yesterday missinformation turned into fact.

US restricts use of Johnson & Johnson vaccine over blood clot risk
https://t.co/RUANo88cMq

— Tim Pool (@Timcast) May 5, 2022

Safe & Effective

[Myesyats]

The link between J&J and blood clots was already reported a year ago (probably even earlier too) by mainstream media lol (found an article in BBC from 13/04/21 Johnson & Johnson vaccine paused over rare blood clots)

J&J rollout was stopped temporarily then in some places, and totally in stopped in Poland, cant speak for other places. I thought J&J was recalled completely as it was in PL but this wasnt hidden from the public or anything

[LeVersacci]

Damn. We really about to go from Covid to war to Monkeypox.

This fall will be fun.

[BarrileteCosmico]

It doesn't seem too concerning. Low transmissability. There's already a vaccine for it. People vaccinated for smallpox might already enjoy some protection.

[El Gunner]

Damn. We really about to go from Covid to war to Monkeypox.

This fall will be fun.

i see what you did there with that strikethrough lol

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