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Post by sportsczy Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:27 pm

Without CR, Man U wouldn't even compete tbh. He's saved them a few times already.

This season has been a tragedy overall so far. The team has no balance.

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Post by Blue Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:14 pm

@Lucifer wrote:Seriously how good is Mendy


Best keeper in the world atm, he is incredible.
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Post by Thimmy Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:54 pm

The last time I praised Mendy on here, several people told me he was shit Laughing
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:28 pm

@Thimmy wrote:The last time I praised Mendy on here, several people told me he was shit Laughing


Proof please
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Post by farfan Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:36 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Thimmy wrote:The last time I praised Mendy on here, several people told me he was shit Laughing


Proof please


Too bad the search function isn't worth a shit on GL. People have been getting away with dubious claims for years, myself included.
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Post by BarcaLearning Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:56 pm

@Jay29 wrote:United are too easy to keep possession against because Ronaldo and Pogba are inefficient pressers and Matic doesn't have the legs anymore.

McTominay and Fred is their best CM pairing because while they aren't outstanding at any one thing, they're decent all-rounders who provide balance. Then they can carry one of Ronaldo or Pogba, but not both, and definitely not against difficult opponents like Leicester.

OGS was doing fine when he had Cavani up front and Pogba playing LW because at least Cavani pressed and the centre was better protected. But now he's got Ronaldo to deal with too and he's a double-edged sword. He'll score goals and decide games for United but weaken them without the ball. Now OGS has pressure to play all his stars at once, and we all know how that tends to turn out.


Exactly. I dont get why everyone talks about Messi not pressing n nobody talks about CR not pressing, its amazing bias.

Goals from CR has been great, but as he continues to age his decline overall will continue, especially when his goal rates drops. Cant wait till he starts getting bench n complains Very Happy
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Post by BarcaLearning Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:58 pm

Salah scoring yet another great great goal. Not even sure if prime Messi could do what he did for this goal, that quick close control, accelerate, stop, shot, beautiful to watch Very Happy
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Post by Myesyats Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:19 pm


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Post by Casciavit Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:27 pm

Salah is the best in the world on current form for sure.

As for Ronaldo, well he's a double edged sword. I'm sure he'll score a lot and win games for United but his presence is a tactical conundrum.

To me, him and Messi are the same tactically. They don't do any defending. They don't have the legs to play as wingers or lone CF's. Offensively one is useless on the ball while the other is useless off it. The main difference though is one is GOAT at attacking the box while the other is GOAT on the ball.

In reality you can only really play them in a front two. United's problem is that their other big names won't fit in a formation like that. Ronaldo is best in a 4-4-2, Bruno is best in a 4-2-3-1, Pogba is best in a 4-3-3, and Sancho is best on the bench.

All kidding aside regarding Sancho you get the point. Ole doesn't care about positional play so I just don't know how you can fit in those 4 all together. Sancho is better as an inside forward than he is as a 1v1 winger. You can't rely on Pogba to defend in a pivot on a weekly basis either. It's just all unbalanced. Maybe PSG can get away with it due to their qualitative advantage against other teams in Ligue 1, but United can't. The PL is too good.
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Post by Casciavit Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:36 pm

There's no system that can fit Ronaldo in a front two, Sancho as an inside attacker, Bruno as a 10, and Pogba in a 3 man midfield all together.

Maybe if you play a 4-3-3 like Liverpool? But then Bruno has to play deeper and AWB will have too much attacking responsibility.

There's a 3-5-2 which can help you get away with Pogba and Bruno as CM's due to the extra CB. But then Sancho has to play as a wingback.

If this was FIFA a 4-1-3-2 might be the answer. Maybe United should hire Gallardo. Laughing
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Post by Thimmy Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:55 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Thimmy wrote:The last time I praised Mendy on here, several people told me he was shit Laughing


Proof please


Wish I could, but I don't even remember what thread it was in. I remember that the immediate response was that he only looked good in contrast to Kepa, almost as if I was urged to withdraw my praise. I only based my praise of a single performance, but I thought it was pretty evident that he wasn't just some guy who was basking in Kepa's misery.
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Post by Mamad Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:54 am

Sorry but Ronaldo is not it for United. yes he will score goals but at what cost?

Ronaldo is not a striker. he can't play with his back against defenders. he can't press for sh*t as the striker is the first one to put pressure on opponents defence.

also he does not have the creativity and dribbling anymore to play as winger.

United had Cavani. they didn't need Ronaldo.
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Post by El Gunner Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:28 am

Cas wrote:In reality you can only really play them in a front two. United's problem is that their other big names won't fit in a formation like that. Ronaldo is best in a 4-4-2, Bruno is best in a 4-2-3-1, Pogba is best in a 4-3-3, and Sancho is best on the bench.
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Post by Arquitecto Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:33 am

Still not looking the gaps in our attack along with the inconsistency of linking the midfield to the attack as Salah being in prime form really is what is masking what has been not so good play.

To which should improve by winter but still concerning.
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Post by Lucifer Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:37 am

Spuds mauling Man City 2.0.

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Post by Kaladin Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:19 am



I just have to laugh at all the double standards and the British media is portraying "Exploited for domestic propaganda", "Sportswashing" "Human Rights violator", if any of them know about regional politics, they'd know that Mohamed bin Zayed is the most evil person in the region, yet you won't hear an ounce of ill will towards City.

I guarantee you that 99% of fans of clubs in the PL not owned by a rich benefactor would want MBS to purchase their club. As stated by Staveley and as evidenced by City group, the level of investment these oil sheiks bring is astronomical, take a look at City's docuseries anywhere, they renovated everything from the club, to the city, to neighborhoods, to facilities, schools, infrastructure, etc something not even their municipalities or Governments could assist with Laughing

Money talks, and we'll see how this plays out. But let me tell you that the PIF is a monster, the biggest vehicle in the region, bigger than QIA, bigger than ADFI. This shit isn't here for games, they're here to cleanse their image, they will raze this shit squad to the ground if need be and will overhaul everything from the ground up.
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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:41 am

@Mamad wrote:Sorry but Ronaldo is not it for United. yes he will score goals but at what cost?

Ronaldo is not a striker. he can't play with his back against defenders. he can't press for sh*t as the striker is the first one to put pressure on opponents defence.

also he does not have the creativity and dribbling anymore to play as winger.

United had Cavani. they didn't need Ronaldo.

He plays with his back to goal just fine, do you actually watch him play or do you just make misinformed comments, and he is still almost a goal a game.

United literally coincided 4 goals and its Ronaldo’s fault, this just sounds like hate lol but you’ve been the resident football hipster and defending benzema when he scored 3 goals in a season lols. Having said that yes he should be pressing more, but I blame the coach here, the whole team pressing is disjointed, because ole is a amateur coach and can’t implement anything of the sort, he’s not a Klopp or pep.

I’m just really struggling to see where Man U were some world beater team last season. They lack a DM, Right Back, right winger, and a shocking decline in maguire and balance in their team and Ole is the last person in the world that needs to be manager, he is absolutely clueless
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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:47 am

https://www.givemesport.com/1770768-man-united-202021-video-proves-cristiano-ronaldo-isnt-to-blame-for-pressing-woes?amp

Look at that press man. Amazing..
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Post by El Gunner Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:37 pm

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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:50 pm

Teams!

Arsenal (an invigorated 4-3-3): Ramsdale; Tomiyasu, Gabriel, White, Tierney; Partey, Odegaard, Saka; Pepe, Aubameyang, Smith Rowe. Subs: Leno, Lacazette, Maitland-Niles, Holding, Cedric, Tavares, Lokonga, Elneny, Martinelli.

Crystal Palace (an uncomplicated 4-3-3): Guaita; Ward, Andersen, Guehi, Mitchell; Gallagher, Milivojevic, McArthur; Ayew, Benteke, Edouard. Subs: Butland, Tomkins, Olise, Kouyate, Hughes, Mateta, Schlupp, Clyne, Kelly.


No Zaha, so lucky for Arsenal

Apart from that, it's all about THE RETURN OF PATRICK VIEIRA
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:03 pm

surely that is one game Arteta can not afford to lose
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Post by El Gunner Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:55 pm

snoozefest after we scored
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:43 pm

@El Gunner wrote:snoozefest after we scored
Not anymore
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Post by Nishankly Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:57 pm

LACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Post by Mamad Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:15 am

@FennecFox7 wrote:
@Mamad wrote:Sorry but Ronaldo is not it for United. yes he will score goals but at what cost?

Ronaldo is not a striker. he can't play with his back against defenders. he can't press for sh*t as the striker is the first one to put pressure on opponents defence.

also he does not have the creativity and dribbling anymore to play as winger.

United had Cavani. they didn't need Ronaldo.

He plays with his back to goal just fine, do you actually watch him play or do you just make misinformed comments, and he is still almost a goal a game.


Do you even know what that means? lol.
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Post by FennecFox7 Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:22 am

@Mamad wrote:
@FennecFox7 wrote:
@Mamad wrote:Sorry but Ronaldo is not it for United. yes he will score goals but at what cost?

Ronaldo is not a striker. he can't play with his back against defenders. he can't press for sh*t as the striker is the first one to put pressure on opponents defence.

also he does not have the creativity and dribbling anymore to play as winger.

United had Cavani. they didn't need Ronaldo.

He plays with his back to goal just fine, do you actually watch him play or do you just make misinformed comments, and he is still almost a goal a game.


Do you even know what that means? lol.


Sure I do, that’s why I said he plays just fine with his back to goal, no one is saying Ronaldo is a wizard on the ball but to say he doesn’t do the basics is just being a hater
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