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Post by Lord Spencer Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:49 pm

Italy was sleeping in the beginning, and England scored and dominated for 10 or so minutes.

Since then, Italy basically were playing like poverty Spain without any penetration.

Emerson is useless offensively. He is in the right places, but he doesn't do well with the ball.

Immobile is freaking useless as well. England is dangerous on the counter. I don't see this getting better for Italy. If Jorginho goes out injured, expect another 4-0.

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Post by RealGunner Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:51 pm

England are playing cattenacio lol. They know Italy barely have any penetration in attack other than Chiesa so the best tactic is to allow them to play.

Quite comfortable so far for us. Mancini will change things at HT surely
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Post by Robespierre Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:52 pm

Nice this replay of Italy-Sweden, we 'll do 90 minutes without shot on goal (despite a scrub GK)


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Post by Babun Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:53 pm

Fun fact, Italy has got so many ball passages that English fans got tired of booing all the time Very Happy
@RealGunner wrote:England are playing cattenacio lol. They know Italy barely have any penetration in attack other than Chiesa so the best tactic is to allow them to play.

Quite comfortable so far for us. Mancini will change things at HT surely

You forgot to add English players are getting tired. Italy moves the ball more than people, a little like Spain. It takes its toll over time.


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Post by Arquitecto Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:53 pm

This is why I never like Mancini's 4-3-3 as its too balanced and spread out as 4-3-3 is only meant for a side bursting in all three sides of the pitch and as mentioned by me the 3-4-3 like many other examples makes it looks as if they have an extra man.

Italy is being stretched out wide as their possession is good but no penetration down Central.

Mancini has been perfect but I said he needed to make tweaks for this game as playing the same team gives Southgate a study from the Spain game and they've adapted to what Italy do best.


The second half will be no different. This game is done.
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Post by Casciavit Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:54 pm

5-2-3 cattenacio from here on out congrats England
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Post by Babun Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:54 pm

@Arquitecto wrote:This is why I never like Mancini's 4-3-3 as its too balanced and spread out as 4-3-3 is only meant for a side bursting in all three sides of the pitch and as mentioned by me the 3-4-3 like many other examples makes it looks as if they have an extra man.

Italy is being stretched out wide as their possession is good but no penetration down Central.

Mancini has been perfect but I said he needed to make tweaks for this game as playing the same team gives Southgate a study from the Spain game and they've adapted to what Italy do best.


The second half will be no different. This game is done.

The game is wide open.
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Post by Robespierre Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:55 pm

@Arquitecto wrote:I'm baffled how no one sees that Horse face Southgate has actually made the EXACT change he needed to.

You'll see it trouble Italy past the 10 minute mark.

Very bad feel for this match and when it's this bad it never turns around.



Ipse dixit.
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Post by Arquitecto Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:55 pm

It's not that Spinazzola gone italy are less without him it's that they need a player like him not these Jack of all trades types fullbacks that are on at the moment.

Emerson is just as bad as I thought if not worse.

Post Spinazzola injury spelled the whole system going down under because that have no offensive fullback adding to the attack
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Post by Arquitecto Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:56 pm

I cannot see it wide open Babun given unless tweaks are made then it will go by the way its going and or England will score on another counter.
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Post by Arquitecto Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:03 pm

The formation relies too much on the skill of the midfielders and intricate passes to which all have to do but they end up forgetting to get it in the box and Mancini may need to change the entire formation even if it risks the balance of the team.

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Post by Lord Spencer Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:04 pm

That was a brilliant goal by England.

Shaw gives the ball to Kane who squares it to Trippier who then crosses it to the advancing Shaw. Three players, three passes, and a goal.

For Italy, Emerson is useless, and that is reducing Insigne's threat.
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Post by Arquitecto Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:05 pm

Insigne looked his best when Spinazzola was with him as so often he has to do the offensive work for Emerson it's limiting his creativity and play and makes the left side useless.
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Post by Lord Spencer Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:06 pm

BTW, it's worth saying that Maguire never plays as well for United as he does for England. Completely different player.
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Post by Lord Spencer Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:08 pm

Sterling is such a shitty diver Laughing
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Post by Lord Spencer Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:11 pm

Insigne with a decent but ultimately far free-kick.
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Post by Robespierre Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:11 pm

Sterling stupid to give a free kick , perfect position for Insigne ... i expected better from it
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Post by Casciavit Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:13 pm

This game is similar to City-Chelsea in the finals. Italy and City both struggling in their 3-2-5 against the 5-4-1.
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Post by Lord Spencer Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:13 pm

Insigne with a terrible attack.

Completely wastes that chance.
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Post by Arquitecto Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:14 pm

Why the FUCK is that deer in headlights Cristante coming on ffs
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Post by Arquitecto Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:15 pm

Barella has been ineffective but Cristante will do nothing of note.

Immobile off for Berardi.

Uninspiring changes but what choice does he have.
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Post by Lord Spencer Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:15 pm

Cristent in for Barella.

Berardi for Immobile. This is a hail mary by the way.
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Post by Robespierre Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:15 pm

Yeah why Cristwnte and not Pessina or Locatelli
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Post by Arquitecto Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:16 pm

This be ending 2-0.
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Post by Lord Spencer Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:16 pm

Bonucci get a needless yellow which could hamper him all game.
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Post by Lord Spencer Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:17 pm

Close for Insigne. Should have shot earlier.
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