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Post by RealGunner Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:35 pm

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Post by CBarca Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:41 pm

There's no way England can lose this one, can they? Ukraine are not really that good.

Sweden is probably the tougher match for England. Happy for the Three Lions.

It's coming home etc
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Post by Firenze Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:49 pm

happy with this game

the stars are aligning....first final in my lifetime. PLEASE.

It's coming home.
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Post by rincon Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:51 pm

Ukraine is a worse version of England in the way they play.

No excuses
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Post by Warrior Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:59 pm

@CBarca wrote:Ukraine are not really that good.


England either

The individual talents such as Grealish, Kane, Sterling should make difference, and i expect England in final, but it be also 0% surprising if they crash out to humble and hard-working ukrainians
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Post by Jay29 Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:07 pm

It's England's first (and only) game away from Wembley, so there's that.

I hope Southgate doesn't use the Germany result as a reason to stick with the 3-4-3. It was fine in that one game where we had a specific gameplan for the opposition, but against Ukraine we really won't need the extra defender.

The attack that started vs the Czech Republic should be good. So Kane with Saka, Grealish and Sterling behind him. It's tough on Foden, Mount and Sancho but I think Saka and Grealish have played their way into the starting line-up.

Only other areas of concern are right back (Walker or James?) and central midfield. Rice and Phillips picked up yellows against Germany and it looked like Rice had bad cramp at the end vs Germany, so maybe it's time for Henderson to start.

At this point, I've accepted a low scoring game with few chances and a lot of dull moments. Better that then crashing out.

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Post by Arquitecto Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:28 pm

Sheva is miles better than Southgate but the individual quality of England will be too much for Ukraine.

England have quite an easy path to the finals now.

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Post by Lord Awesome Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:06 am

Yeah this Ukraine isn't even on a Switzerland level so I too am predicting England will advance here. May be hard fought at best and landslide victory at worse.
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:47 am

Surprised no one has mentioned England have not conceded goal in the last 4-5 games.

Last goal they conceded was one goal in their 2-1 victory against Poland.


Putting it down here.

This is England's year to win their first ever Euro. Marked.
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Post by Lord Awesome Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:52 am

Yeah it's a strong show at this point. To the point of keeping even Germany at 0 tho you could fault Muller for that 1v1 that he could've converted. But it's also no fluke that England haven't recieved a goal against yet. They have an excellent chance to take it.
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Post by Warrior Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:04 am

Credits to their defense, yes

But i must say, after 4 games and the opponents they faced, not conceding is not that big of an exploit. Against the remains of Germany i can applaud but in group stage, i don't remember them ever being in trouble. But then i remember falling asleep during one match maybe they were a brick wall and i missed it.

Some of it is due to their collective system, and some is due to opponents being very dull. All this to say i don't consider England a top class defense over what i saw in Euro. They have done their job.
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Post by Perucho21 Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:10 am

Prime and Vintage England defeating Germany but losing to Ukraine. Don't count out Ukraine yet
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Post by Kaladin Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:58 am

Will English media 'discover' Malinovskyi like they discovered Zlatan back in 2013?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:11 pm

@Perucho21 wrote:Prime and Vintage England defeating Germany but losing to Ukraine. Don't count out Ukraine yet


How is England beating Germany and losing to an Underdog vintage England at all? We never beat the good teams lol.

If anything beating Ukraine and losing to Germany would be vintage England lol.

Not saying we'll win but this idea that it would be vintage England just isn't true at all.
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:57 pm

Ukraine is unironically a better collective team as a whole than Germany who basically had no gameplan but England will be galvanised but what is a historic victory and one that will give them confidence.

England is my prediction for the Euro win but Ive absolutely no doubt on their path to the final at least.

Ukraine have little quality as whatever they had earlier in the last decade, is mostly past their prime.
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Post by Doc Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:25 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@Perucho21 wrote:Prime and Vintage England defeating Germany but losing to Ukraine. Don't count out Ukraine yet


How is England beating Germany and losing to an Underdog vintage England at all? We never beat the good teams lol.

If anything beating Ukraine and losing to Germany would be vintage England lol.

Not saying we'll win but this idea that it would be vintage England just isn't true at all.

Considering Germany isn't that good, I think you're still keeping up with that tradition imo.
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Post by Helmer Thu Jul 01, 2021 9:08 am

I am worried whether England will get bullied all over the pitch. They need to keep calm and use quality instead of running around too much or trying to be aggressive.

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Post by Robespierre Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:35 pm

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It's coming home, isn't it ?

Shame English fans can't travel, it'd have been great to observe mass of enthusiastic English fans here
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Post by Robespierre Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:41 pm

Tbf i' ve already seen some with England shirt here Very Happy
Probably tourists , I suppose Inhibition has to do just with stadium ? I don't even know it ol
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Post by futbol_bill Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:07 pm

@Robespierre wrote: EURO 2020 - QF : England Vs Ukraine IMG-20210703-133159

It's coming home, isn't it ?

Shame English fans can't travel, it'd have been great to observe mass of enthusiastic English fans here


Isn’t the correct term for them holigans?
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:28 pm

Looks like Gareth is going back to 4-3-3 with Mount and Sancho coming in. This might be a good match to start Henderson in honestly but he might just keep Rice-Phillips again.

-----------------Pickford--------------------
Walker-----Maguire---Stones-------Shaw
--------Mount-----Rice----Phillips---------
Sancho----------Kane-------------Sterling


Ukraine will be more difficult to beat than Germany. Better team. Can't take this lightly at all
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Post by CBarca Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:00 pm

I feel a stronger connection to the English national team than I expected. Let's do this ffs
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Post by rincon Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:42 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Looks like Gareth is going back to 4-3-3 with Mount and Sancho coming in. This might be a good match to start Henderson in honestly but he might just keep Rice-Phillips again.

-----------------Pickford--------------------
Walker-----Maguire---Stones-------Shaw
--------Mount-----Rice----Phillips---------
Sancho----------Kane-------------Sterling


Ukraine will be more difficult to beat than Germany. Better team. Can't take this lightly at all

I haven't followed every England match as closely but it feels like Southgate has been the coach to rotate his starting 11 the most. Can be very important at this stage when everyone is tired to be more fresh than the opponent.
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Post by Superstone Mariomintsch Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:36 pm

@rincon wrote:
@RealGunner wrote:Looks like Gareth is going back to 4-3-3 with Mount and Sancho coming in. This might be a good match to start Henderson in honestly but he might just keep Rice-Phillips again.

-----------------Pickford--------------------
Walker-----Maguire---Stones-------Shaw
--------Mount-----Rice----Phillips---------
Sancho----------Kane-------------Sterling


Ukraine will be more difficult to beat than Germany. Better team. Can't take this lightly at all

I haven't followed every England match as closely but it feels like Southgate has been the coach to rotate his starting 11 the most. Can be very important at this stage when everyone is tired to be more fresh than the opponent.

Along with Luis Enrique. He has rotated the wingers, fullbacks, and Laporte's partner at center back. Not one match with the same starting 11 also
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