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Post by Firenze Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:52 pm

Depay's gonna stink it up for Barca too, man thinks he's prime Ronaldo, closer to Januzaj


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Post by RealGunner Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:53 pm

@sportsczy wrote:Other than Van Dijk, all the Netherlands players are overrated imo.


Their entire tactic is kick and rush. but without the technical ability
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Post by RealGunner Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:54 pm

@Firenze wrote:Depay's gonna stink it up for Barca too, man thinks he's prime Ronaldo, closer to Januzaj



Benzema's 20 sec drip videos are better than this trash ffs
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Post by Babun Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:54 pm

@Arquitecto wrote:
Schick and his jaw of the gods will lead the Czechs to the finals.
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That manly man jaw of his reminds of Tusk from Killer Instinct 2. As for Netherlands.. even with the likes of Arjen Robben they couldn't win anything.


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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:55 pm

Thanks to Goallegacy and @zigra, we've always know that de Boer is a fraud and so it doen't come as a surprise to any of us
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Post by Lucifer Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:57 pm

Yeah Schick does have panty dropping jawline.

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Post by BarcaLearning Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:58 pm

Netherlabds the eternal underperformers in the big tournaments, continues. Their old problems seem to remain, many stars (this time actually having less, biggest name prolly Depay lol), but still they dont work that well as a team, and physically lacking vs the Czechs, defending was poor as usual. Depay was meh, I guess confirming my 0 hopes for him at Barca lol, not even sure if he would be much of an upgrade on Braithwaite.

Frank De Boer, good player, but once again failures as coach.

Czech have a good h2h vs Dutch, and they often do well in tournaments despite not having big name players.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:58 pm

@Lucifer wrote:Yeah Schick does have panty dropping jawline.
looks like a young Helmut Berger
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Post by rincon Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:00 pm

@Arquitecto wrote:Netherlands is just hype year after year and its always hilarious seeing them crash out like this. Perennial chokers and their history is threadbare for what most expect them to be. Their players are generally overrated as of recent.

Who hyped the Dutch though? No one expected much from them since they hired De Boer. Even before that they weren't favorites.
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Post by Lucifer Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:00 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Lucifer wrote:Yeah Schick does have panty dropping jawline.
looks like a young Helmut Berger

Googled him, yeah he does.

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Post by Robespierre Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:01 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Thanks to Goallegacy and @zigra, we've always know that de Boer is a fraud and so it doen't come as a surprise to any of us


Exactly

Zigrobes already said it

And I've seen typical sterile team under De Boer

Manager is problem. If Koemean stayed , they would have made better. I rate Netherlands close to Italy as level, but they look like much more distant due to FDB
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Post by Lucifer Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:02 pm

Also that Malen miss is going to sting like hell now to Netherlands.

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:14 pm

@Lucifer wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Lucifer wrote:Yeah Schick does have panty dropping jawline.
looks like a young Helmut Berger

Googled him, yeah he does.


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going to call him either Helmut or Ludwig Schick from now on.

Schick of course, German word for fancy, chique
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Post by Superstone Mariomintsch Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:21 pm

It's mission impossible when they're on 10-men and having to chase the game. What do you do? Subbing attacking players, having to attack to score, but you must not concede. Malen properly rounding the keeper and we'll hear a whole different story. De Ligt really shouldn't handle the ball there. It's better to let Schick score and then mount a comeback. But I guess it's an instinctive decision.

I don't think Czech would beat Netherlands if they still have all 11 men. And if they're through here, anything could happen later. Fair play to Czech though, it was a professional display. They played solidly, used the ball well, and grabbed the chances superbly. And yeah they have HOLES being everywhere, West Ham's FPL Gods Coufal & Soucek, and Helmut Schick
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Post by Doc Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:38 pm

So similar to Italy, Holland's group was too easy I take it?!
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Post by Superstone Mariomintsch Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:01 pm

Yeah it seems so. But we should see the other last 16 matches first to gauge it better

@BarcaLearning wrote:Netherlabds the eternal underperformers in the big tournaments, continues. Their old problems seem to remain, many stars (this time actually having less, biggest name prolly Depay lol), but still they dont work that well as a team, and physically lacking vs the Czechs, defending was poor as usual. Depay was meh, I guess confirming my 0 hopes for him at Barca lol, not even sure if he would be much of an upgrade on Braithwaite.

Frank De Boer, good player, but once again failures as coach.

Czech have a good h2h vs Dutch, and they often do well in tournaments despite not having big name players.

I think Netherlands performs well in big tournaments. Like in 2014, they don't have a good squad, but they go all the way to semifinal and only losing on penalties. But this time, they don't have good enough players. And Depay is no Robben Razz

Czech do have remarkable record against Netherlands. Netherlands have unwanted record of 4 red cards against Czech. Czech currently don't have big name players, but the Czech that beat the Dutch before certainly did lol. Their 2004 squad was excellent. Superb midfield with Nedved, Rosicky, Poborsky & Galasek and Baros couldn't stop scoring and combining well with Jan Koller. And they did have good teams before in 96 and when they were Czechoslovakia. They generally did well in Euros and didn't do as good in World Cups. Whilst the Dutch in the past decade did well in World Cups except the last, but didn't do good in Euros
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Post by BarcaLearning Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:01 pm

Superstone, your football knowledge is tops Thumbs up
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Post by McLewis Sun Jun 27, 2021 9:06 pm

The Dutch were exposed as individual talented players who can't play as a unit when it matters. The Czechs, while less heralded, were far more cohesive and functional.
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Post by Babun Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:04 pm

@McLewis wrote:The Dutch were exposed as individual talented players who can't play as a unit when it matters. The Czechs, while less heralded, were far more cohesive and functional.

Czech's midfield is much better than credited for. They dominated the middle against England and Netherlands, they can't be just average.
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Post by Perucho21 Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:12 am

imagine stekelenburg being your best GK in 2020
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Post by McLewis Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:16 am

@Babun wrote:
@McLewis wrote:The Dutch were exposed as individual talented players who can't play as a unit when it matters. The Czechs, while less heralded, were far more cohesive and functional.

Czech's midfield is much better than credited for. They dominated the middle against England and Netherlands, they can't be just average.


Which is why I said less "heralded". They are indeed better than credited and not at all average. Just less regarded. They work hard, maintain focus, and are very good technically and tactically. Soucek particularly is the one I like the most in that midfield. His late runs into the box are very dangerous. Similar to Locatelli's for Italy.
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Post by Casciavit Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:51 am

You just can't get away with giving red cards in a knockout round. It was game over the moment De Ligt got a red card. De Boer's subs made it even worse lmfao.
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Post by Superstone Mariomintsch Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:36 am

As bad as De Boer is, I don't know what could he do the moment Netherlands were 1-0 behind and on 10 men. His main system is a 3-5-2 in which the wingbacks play very high up the pitch. They're forced to play 4 at the back, they lost on numbers, they have to attack, but they must not concede. His non-achievement with Inter and Palace made him a meme, but I don't think even the best managers can make their team do an epic comeback in that situation.

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@Babun wrote:
@McLewis wrote:The Dutch were exposed as individual talented players who can't play as a unit when it matters. The Czechs, while less heralded, were far more cohesive and functional.

Czech's midfield is much better than credited for. They dominated the middle against England and Netherlands, they can't be just average.


Which is why I said less "heralded". They are indeed better than credited and not at all average. Just less regarded. They work hard, maintain focus, and are very good technically and tactically. Soucek particularly is the one I like the most in that midfield. His late runs into the box are very dangerous. Similar to Locatelli's for Italy.

Soucek is great, very dependable. He utilized his huge posture to the optimum as well, winning aerial duels and connecting to crosses on the end of his late runs.

@BarcaLearning wrote:Superstone, your football knowledge is tops Thumbs up

Haha thank you buddy. I guess I spent too much time on following football Razz
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Post by The Franchise Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:27 am

Malen has to lift that over the goalie, he did such a good job but it seemed predictable he was going to attempt to round the goalie there. May have been ruled out for a foul anyway.

Once De Ligt thought he was going for a rugby try, it was an uphill battle. Did he think by handling the ball, the ref was going to be forced into giving him a free kick?
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