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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:54 pm

@The Franchise wrote:
No doubt Deschamps will continue with this pragmatism to the bitter end.


I can't put in words how much I hate his football

this team should be running opponents over with creativity, skill and beauty, such a huge assemblage of stunning talent and quality

instead mixing up the concrete, it's just horrible

the guy should be tried for crimes against humanity, World Cup win or not

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Post by The Franchise Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:09 pm

100% agree.

You think of all the national teams we remember, win or lose, be it one of the Brazil teams, Netherlands, whoever, you think of some of the great quality they had and how they were the protagonists in games.

France have all the quality in the world to do the same, instead they play exactly how you describe.

A typical French highlight package includes Griezmann tracking back fullbacks and putting in sliding tackles, while Pogba immediately looks for Mbappe behind or directly to Giroud. Very effective sure, but just so simplistic and unimaginative.

Imagine if they had Zidane (as a player) today, what on earth would he do in this team with this style of play?

I dont think they will change though, even if they dont win this competition, they will continue this same path until Deschamps eventually leaves.
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:40 pm

@El Gunner wrote:of course they contribute, just that the players i mentioned more often than not win you the games with goals

If you don't concede, you need less magical goals.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:35 am

You guys misunderstand DD. He plays whatever tactic gives him the best chance of winning that game. Playing Germany in Munich means you need to be conservative. On the other extreme, leaving the ball to Argentina is stupid... so France attacked almost all game long.

Keep in mind that Varane had an awful season at Madrid, Kimpembe is mistake-prone and Pavard isn't exactly solid defensively either. So he needs to protect them. You're asking to lose if you let that back 4 on its own. In contrast, you can leave Mbappe, Griezmann and Benzema on their own with a better than good chance that they score.

It's all about probabilities with him. It's not pretty.. but effective.

The only way he changes is if France loses. After a Euro Final and WC win... it would take a loss prior to the semis imo.
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Post by Kaladin Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:35 am

Big test today for Germany, potentially tournament-defining game

I see so many parallels between England and Germany, they have a talented squad but like England are at the behest of a coach who can't utilize them to their full capacity

This squad really is better than some of the callups since 2014, (Kiesling, Schmelzer, Holtby, Marin, Meyer, Kramer etc)

I suspect Germany will have a strong squad once Flick sorts them out by Euro 2024, but right now i don't foresee them going far in any tournament
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Post by rincon Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:48 am

At least Germany played well. They couldn't create or finish enough chances but with their midfield they play with fluidity. England on the other hand hasn't been playing anything (relative to expectations), the their two games have been too poor.
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Post by VivaStPauli Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:39 pm

Yeah Germany won't do anything before Flick takes over.
Might still be enough for today.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:48 pm

HUN XI: Gulacsi; Botka, Orban, Attila Szalai; Nego, Kleinheisler, Nagy, Schafer, Fiola; Adam Szalai, Sallai.

#FRA XI: Lloris; Pavard, Varane, Kimpembe, Digne; Kante, Pogba, Rabiot, Griezmann; Benzema, Mbappe.
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Post by Myesyats Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:16 pm

Griezmann with a brainfart

unreal miss rofl

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Post by Jay29 Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:49 pm

Hungary score. hmm

France missing good chances. They'll probably come back but at least it's a game now.

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Post by M99 Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:51 pm

Well...this is interesting.
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Post by Doc Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:03 pm

Pavard and Varane had a proper Chuckle brothers moment. Then again, I found both to have been shaky from the kick off.

France should come back from this, way too much talent but I love that Hungary is up for this. Cannot fault the effort.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:13 pm

Nothing new here, Varane being a horror show and Benz missing sitters
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Post by Warrior Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:30 pm

Nice long ball but defending here leaves to be desired

Try to cut the pass ended up deflecting it in the center of the box
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:38 pm

all you need to do is sub in an FC Bayern midfielder and you immediately take over possession Proud
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:49 pm

Lmao Dembele
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:57 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Lmao Dembele


sums up his career
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:58 pm

Löw not making a single change to the first game, honestly I find this unbelievable

the guy is such a rotting corpse, I can smell the stench all the way to here


oh wait that's my organic waste bag
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Post by Lucifer Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:01 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Löw not making a single change to the first game, honestly I find this unbelievable

the guy is such a rotting corpse, I can smell the stench all the way to here


oh wait that's my organic waste bag

Nobody has more smelly teash than i do imo. Other day i just ordered online dozens of room freshers just so that i don't have to throw the trash for couple of weeks more.
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Post by Robespierre Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:04 pm

First surprising result at this Euro
Honestly too much linear for results so far
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Post by El Gunner Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:13 pm

Germany win and the group becomes super interesting
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Post by Kaladin Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:19 pm

Like i said before..Italy v Belgium will be the true final
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Post by Kaladin Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:17 pm

RONALDOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:17 pm

How is RONALDO sprinting like prime Bolt lmao. He is 36 man.

Also havertz letting him run Laughing
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Post by Myesyats Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:18 pm

@Lucifer wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:Löw not making a single change to the first game, honestly I find this unbelievable

the guy is such a rotting corpse, I can smell the stench all the way to here


oh wait that's my organic waste bag

Nobody has more smelly teash than i do imo. Other day i just ordered online dozens of room freshers just so that i don't have to throw the trash for couple of weeks more.

get it together brother

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Post by Kaladin Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:25 pm

Still don't get how Gnabry is 86 on FIFA
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