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Post by Casciavit Sun 9 May - 22:31:02

Kessie's ball retention is so underrated

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Post by rincon Sun 9 May - 22:35:33

@S wrote:
@rincon wrote:No CL, no money, and even no Donnarumma Laughing it means more of Szczesnh next season


Yeah, Szczesny's our biggest problem clearly...

And fuck Donnarumma too

No, our biggest problem is Pirlo but Szczesny has been pathetic this season. Signing Donnarumma on a free is a huge upgrade, this match is a sliding door.
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Post by Casciavit Sun 9 May - 22:36:34

Your midfield is shit too
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Post by Kaladin Sun 9 May - 22:38:58

LEEEEETS GOOOOOO LADS

WHAT A WIN

WHAT A NIGHT
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Post by M99 Sun 9 May - 22:39:23

This 3-0 scoreline is huge.Now we have the H2H advantage too.

Ronaldo shut down by Tomori, incredible scenes.
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Post by Casciavit Sun 9 May - 22:40:01

AHHHHHHHHHH

@kaladin @m99

3 more games ffs its been too long since 2014
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Post by rincon Sun 9 May - 22:40:45

@Casciavit wrote:Your midfield is shit too

The midfield is shit but jts nowhere near as bad as Pirlo makes it look. The whole team is made to look worse with no coaching.

Reminder that Sarri won the league with a worse squad.
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Post by S Sun 9 May - 22:43:55

@Casciavit wrote:Your midfield is shit too


There are so many weak spots in the team that needs urgent addressing before the GK. There are so many players and staff for that matter I would replace in the team before the GK. Donnarumma would've been a huge expense even if he's free purely because we're dealing with Raiola. It would've also exemplified how poor we have been on the transfer market lately, prioritizing signing a GK over pressing needs.

But it doesn't matter as we are broke af now with no CL.


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Post by Casciavit Sun 9 May - 22:45:12

@rincon wrote:
@Casciavit wrote:Your midfield is shit too

The midfield is shit but jts nowhere near as bad as Pirlo makes it look. The whole team is made to look worse with no coaching.

Reminder that Sarri won the league with a worse squad.


Sarri is obviously a superior coach, but the competition last season wasn't as good as the competition now. Juve wouldn't be 5th with Sarri, but I don't think they'd be anywhere near first either tbh.

Your midfield is a problem. Every elite midfield has players who have at least one stand-out attribute. Your midfield is comprised of average joes.
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Post by S Sun 9 May - 22:48:33

@Casciavit wrote:
@rincon wrote:
@Casciavit wrote:Your midfield is shit too

The midfield is shit but jts nowhere near as bad as Pirlo makes it look. The whole team is made to look worse with no coaching.

Reminder that Sarri won the league with a worse squad.


Sarri is obviously a superior coach, but the competition last season wasn't as good as the competition now. Juve wouldn't be 5th with Sarri, but I don't think they'd be anywhere near first either tbh.

Your midfield is a problem. Every elite midfield has players who have at least one stand-out attribute. Your midfield is comprised of average joes.


Agreed. Midfield has been by far the biggest problem for good 3-4 years now. As I've said, we have prioritized making fancy, flashy signings over building a well rounded team. Arthur, Rabiot, Ramsey, Bentancur, Mckennie, none of these players are good enough for a club of this level. Don't know how anyone can deny this tbh.
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Post by rincon Sun 9 May - 22:52:51

@Casciavit wrote:
@rincon wrote:
@Casciavit wrote:Your midfield is shit too

The midfield is shit but jts nowhere near as bad as Pirlo makes it look. The whole team is made to look worse with no coaching.

Reminder that Sarri won the league with a worse squad.


Sarri is obviously a superior coach, but the competition last season wasn't as good as the competition now. Juve wouldn't be 5th with Sarri, but I don't think they'd be anywhere near first either tbh.

Your midfield is a problem. Every elite midfield has players who have at least one stand-out attribute. Your midfield is comprised of average joes.

This is true but at the moment we aren't talking about competing for the scudetto. We are talking about missing out on CL. This team, these midfielders, are absolutely good enough to qualify for CL, as we have seen for the past 2 seasons.

2020 Sarri or 2019 Allegri would have qualified this team to CL without a doubt.

We are the worst coached team in this race. The team will be changed in the transfer market, but it is not a 5th place squad with proper coaching.
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Post by Robespierre Sun 9 May - 23:03:31

Well I'd say AC Milan are back on Champions League, deserved
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Post by Robespierre Sun 9 May - 23:04:06

Next Juve matches

Sassuolo Juve
Juve Inter
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Post by rincon Sun 9 May - 23:10:45

@Robespierre wrote:Next Juve matches

Sassuolo Juve
Juve Inter

No chance we pick up full points, and even then we need Napoli to drop points.
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Post by Casciavit Sun 9 May - 23:10:56

@rincon wrote:
@Casciavit wrote:
@rincon wrote:

The midfield is shit but jts nowhere near as bad as Pirlo makes it look. The whole team is made to look worse with no coaching.

Reminder that Sarri won the league with a worse squad.


Sarri is obviously a superior coach, but the competition last season wasn't as good as the competition now. Juve wouldn't be 5th with Sarri, but I don't think they'd be anywhere near first either tbh.

Your midfield is a problem. Every elite midfield has players who have at least one stand-out attribute. Your midfield is comprised of average joes.

This is true but at the moment we aren't talking about competing for the scudetto. We are talking about missing out on CL. This team, these midfielders, are absolutely good enough to qualify for CL, as we have seen for the past 2 seasons.

2020 Sarri or 2019 Allegri would have qualified this team to CL without a doubt.

We are the worst coached team in this race. The team will be changed in the transfer market, but it is not a 5th place squad with proper coaching.


True, I mean the Tuchel appointment has shown the effect an elite level coach can have on a team right away even if you think the quality is dire. Those guys would do better than what Pirlo did and Juve have a team better than competing for EL.

At the same time though your management has prioritized flashy signings over functional ones. The midfield represents the team as they're respnsible for the middle of the pitch. So they give the team an identity.

Your midfielders have no stand out attribute. At least before Pjanic was a good distributor. Like I said you have average joes there.

Then again you guys were on top for a decade which is impressive in of itself and there was always gonna be a downturn. I guess no one expected that level of decline but most top clubs are poorly run. Is it any surprise almost all of them devolve to a banter team when they do bad?
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Post by Casciavit Sun 9 May - 23:11:40

@S wrote:
@Casciavit wrote:
@rincon wrote:

The midfield is shit but jts nowhere near as bad as Pirlo makes it look. The whole team is made to look worse with no coaching.

Reminder that Sarri won the league with a worse squad.


Sarri is obviously a superior coach, but the competition last season wasn't as good as the competition now. Juve wouldn't be 5th with Sarri, but I don't think they'd be anywhere near first either tbh.

Your midfield is a problem. Every elite midfield has players who have at least one stand-out attribute. Your midfield is comprised of average joes.


Agreed. Midfield has been by far the biggest problem for good 3-4 years now. As I've said, we have prioritized making fancy, flashy signings over building a well rounded team. Arthur, Rabiot, Ramsey, Bentancur, Mckennie, none of these players are good enough for a club of this level. Don't know how anyone can deny this tbh.


What do you suggest they do?
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Post by Robespierre Sun 9 May - 23:36:54

@Robespierre wrote:Well I'd say AC Milan are back on Champions League, deserved

Torino - Milan
Milan - Cagliari
Atalanta - Milan

Torino tough when they park the bus, but N'Koulou is banned and Belotti has stopped to score
Especially they have crucial match against Spezia just three days after Milan

Cagliari
I think Cagliari  will be saved before that match

Atalanta
Hard match . Milan must reach that match as already qualified for not risking
Tbf Atalanta will play Coppa Italia final just 3 days before this match

Predictions : 6 points are enough for CL Place

Frankly Milan deserves It, constantly on top 4 (except for a matchday ? ) , they've been even Campione d Inverno, they were the only team [ with Sampdoria ] to have beaten Inter so far
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Post by Katy Perry Mon 10 May - 0:34:49

Juve has failed to address their midfield issues for I don't know how long Laughing

Allegri actually made Juve a perennial CL contender with Khedira/Matuidi/Emre Can/Sturaro playing key minutes throughout all of his tenure :bow: He's the only man that can save Juve.
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Post by Kaladin Mon 10 May - 0:41:40

@rincon wrote:
@Casciavit wrote:
@rincon wrote:

The midfield is shit but jts nowhere near as bad as Pirlo makes it look. The whole team is made to look worse with no coaching.

Reminder that Sarri won the league with a worse squad.


Sarri is obviously a superior coach, but the competition last season wasn't as good as the competition now. Juve wouldn't be 5th with Sarri, but I don't think they'd be anywhere near first either tbh.

Your midfield is a problem. Every elite midfield has players who have at least one stand-out attribute. Your midfield is comprised of average joes.

This is true but at the moment we aren't talking about competing for the scudetto. We are talking about missing out on CL. This team, these midfielders, are absolutely good enough to qualify for CL, as we have seen for the past 2 seasons.

2020 Sarri or 2019 Allegri would have qualified this team to CL without a doubt.

We are the worst coached team in this race. The team will be changed in the transfer market, but it is not a 5th place squad with proper coaching.


No they're not lol

You have an aging core of players, CR included, and have been relying on the heroics of a few players all season to produce something (Chiesa, Mckennie, CR)

Its clear there needs to be a restructuring the defensive department as a whole, Bonucci, Danilo, Demiral, Cuadrado, Chiellini and Alex Sandro. Either, they aren't good enough, or they are showing shades of age.

The midfield: Once a rock in Juve's title-winning seasons, you went from Marchisio. Vidal, Pirlo, to Pogba, Pirlo and Vidal, to Pjanic, Matuidi and co....to..whatever the hell this is. I'm actually shocked that Juve has let it come to this, Rabiot and Bentancur, for real?

Offense: No idea whats happening here, disjointed group of players that don't have an understanding of each other. We'll see if CR bounces this summer.
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Post by M99 Mon 10 May - 11:26:35

Kind of strange people are acting like its a foregone conclusion Napoli are gonna make it. They have every chance of screwing up. So do we tbh.
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Post by rincon Mon 10 May - 11:33:13

It's about the momentum, Napoli are in a positive period while we are in an extremely negative one.

We have to play Sassuolo away, Inter, and have also the CI final with Atalanta squeezed in.

Napoli are playing against 3 teams that aren't playing for anything.

Milan has the H2H advantage.
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Post by M99 Mon 10 May - 12:09:21

Speaking of H2H

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Man this is the best top 4 race in years.
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Post by Kaladin Mon 10 May - 13:05:59

@Casciavit wrote:Kessie's ball retention is so underrated


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2 different players

I am honestly shocked at how he has developed, i've documented this in his own player thread but i can't seem to find it.

Him and Barella are the 2 best midfielders in Serie A this season
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Post by S Mon 10 May - 13:09:05

EL will be super interesting next season

Liverpool, Juventus

Milan, Inter, United when they'll inevitably drop out of the group stages in CL next season

Gonna be fun to watch
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Post by Robespierre Mon 10 May - 13:24:32

@Kaladin wrote:
@Casciavit wrote:Kessie's ball retention is so underrated


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2 different players

I am honestly shocked at how he has developed, i've documented this in his own player thread but i can't seem to find it.

Him and Barella are the 2 best midfielders in Serie A this season

Barella, Kessie, Zielinski, De Paul were the best midfielders in Serie A this year
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Post by Robespierre Mon 10 May - 13:30:23

The biggest disasterclass for Juve yesterday was repredented from losing for .. 0-3.
It was hard to disallow the advantage on H2H but Pirlo was able in it. Juve to attack desperately on last minutes for losing just 1-3. Insane scenes.
Basically it is as if Milan got 4 points yesterday.
Yeah Napoli are not reliable, just bottled it against Cagliari recently , but well, Juve are not master of own fate when just 3 matches miss.and they will have to face Sassuolo and Juve
I' m enjoying It with the Scudetto on pocket, what a time to be alive
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