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Post by S Mon Jul 18, 2022 2:55 pm

Szczesny
Danilo-Bonucci-Bremer-Sandro
Locatelli
Zakaria---Pogba
Zaniolo-Vlahovic-Di Maria

That defense bar Bremer looks really bad

Reminds me of our post calciopoli team defense when we had washed up Leggrotaglie/Cannavaro with Grygera and Molinaro as fullbacks

Alex Sandro is literally Molinaro level these days

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Post by farfan Mon Jul 18, 2022 4:56 pm

Crazy that Juve is starting 2022-2023 with Porto's fullbacks from like a decade ago Laughing
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Post by rincon Tue Jul 19, 2022 4:49 pm

Being reported that an agreement was found with Torino. De Ligt sold for 80m and Bremer signed for 40m.
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Post by BarcaLearning Wed Jul 20, 2022 11:47 am

Sorry being late again to ask, but why Juve selling De Ligt again? Seems like bought n sold for 7xM no profit or loss... they think hes not good enough or need money or what?
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Post by Warrior Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:24 pm

He wanted to leave and could not be convinced to stay it's as simple as that

It sucks that he was there only for the downward spiral enabled by Paratici. Had 3 coaches in 3 seasons, barely won any trophies and the team was not high level. As you can see not really a good environment to blossom although De Ligt himself did the job in defense. His leadership precocity which was one of his main assets at Ajax he could not really display it here. In the end his Juve legacy is lower than a guy like Caceres.

Still a good defender, he is not perfect, not the most agressive tackler. But i think he has a bright future ahead of him, maybe we signed him too soon, anyways that was worth a try. Back then he was the top CB prospect in the world.
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Post by Warrior Wed Jul 20, 2022 1:30 pm

Chiesa-Vlahovic-Di Maria
Pogba-Zakaria-Locatelli
Sandro-Bremer-Bonucci-Cuadrado
Szczesny

That's the starting XI for now
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Post by rincon Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:03 pm

Yeah De Ligt is good. Good luck at Bayern, surely he will succeed.

Only positive about selling him is that while be is very good, he is also very overpaid. Raiola squeezed all he could to get him a massive contract. So at least there is money to reinvest in the squad where it's needed.

Bremer reportedly will earn about half of De Light and he probably won't be any worse. I guess the rest of his budget will be spent on Zaniolo.
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Post by rincon Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:09 pm

Lots players signed, I guess now sales are next.

Ramsey's contract termination, Arthur (I guess) loan, and then whatever will happen with our large number of midfielders.
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Post by BarcaLearning Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:28 pm

Thx for the explanation n it makes sense... Bayern will now have so many fancy defenders, though they still leak goals its pretty weird to see actually. De Ligt, Hernandez, Upemcano, Davids, etc...
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Post by Warrior Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:03 am

Yearly Paredes links popping up. This time for good i think

PSG need to offload their roster we can get him for 25 millions. In fact we absolutely need one more midfielder because Ramsey, Rabiot and Arthur are all gone very soon and 4 men rotation in midfield is too short

In other news our new forward is probably Morata on loan Thumbs up
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Post by S Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:24 pm

Both trash players need to stay away and will ruin what has been a pretty good mercato so far
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Post by S Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:55 am

34 year old Di Maria is gonna destroy Serie A
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:06 am

S wrote:34 year old Di Maria is gonna destroy Serie A

Nonsense Laughing
Di Maria is completely finished.
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Post by S Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:54 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
S wrote:34 year old Di Maria is gonna destroy Serie A

Nonsense Laughing
Di Maria is completely finished.


You're overestimating the level of the league

He's going to toy with useless Serie Z defenders as long as he's motivated
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Post by Warrior Sat Jul 23, 2022 1:44 pm

Di Maria was the best show in Vegas last night

The forward "rotation" is very short we have Vlahovic and Kean as strikers, then Di Maria and Chiesa as wingers, the latter not ready to play in august. There's still Cuadrado who can be used RW and everywhere on the right flank.

I think the next player we need is Memphis Depay

And try to hijack Renato Sanches transfer while we're at it. They negociate for a mere 10 millions currently....
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Post by rincon Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:22 am

Our first friendly against Chivas saw us play the most fun Juve midfield in years, Pogba, Locatelli, Fagioli.

Fagioli needs to stay and play a big role next season.
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Post by S Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:01 am

Pogba already out injured for a month

And we want to sign Zaniolo :facepalm:
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Post by Warrior Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:41 am

At least we tried :facepalm:

Hope it's just one month... the name of this injury is frightening and makes me nervous... rupture of lateral meniscus

Discussions for Zaniolo stalled which is probably a good thing. We can sign him in a few years if his career goes back to normal. Currently we are after Firmino (and Morata) and Paredes in midfield, Milenkovic in defense have been targets for a while.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:37 am

what did you expect

Pogba was continually injured at Man United, 1300 minutes in the league last season, 1900 minutes the season before and 1200 before that.
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Post by Myesyats Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:30 am

Out for 2 months according to gazetta?! Pogbito ergo sum

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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:05 am

ADM is still a monster. Great coup
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Post by Myesyats Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:45 am

https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/Juventus/28-07-2022/juve-pogba-rischia-tornare-2023-mondiale-rischio-4401620683746_preview.shtml

Pogba could even miss the WC according to gazzetta
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Post by rincon Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:11 pm

It's just journalists speculating trying to get clicks. He hasn't even been checked and flew back to Turin, more info should come soon.
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Post by Warrior Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:14 pm

This means Rabiot is staying. Well he's the least worst of the 3 musketeers who suck in midfield. As long as Arthur and Ramsey are gone we have options to sign a Paredes or a Wijnaldum. As i said before we should try Renato Sanches too

To think we start the season with a midfield of Rabiot-Zakaria-Locatelli is quite depressing, might as well test Di Maria in mezzala role with Loca AM to take shots and 2 strikers...
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Post by Kaladin Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:44 pm

Still can't wrap my fucking head around how Sassuolo fleeced Juve 40M for Locatelli, them 2 goals at the Euros really decided a transfer.

I'm still shocked that Sandro is going to be the starting LB going into the season, now thats an Allegri moment right there. Danilo and Sandro, two dire offensive fullbacks starting, 2 DMs in Rabiot and Locatelli, that shit takes me back.

I don't see Allegri lasting the season if things turned out the same as last year.
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Post by Warrior Thu Jul 28, 2022 5:29 pm

We overpaid like 10m for Locatelli and we pay this transfer in instalments so i don't see a big scandal here. I did not like his utilization in a regista role where he's basically invisible instead this guy should play closer to goal.

I don't share the general disgust on Alex Sandro he's a serviceable player, he's not attacking anymore but we know he can cover a lot of ground. On the right the starter should be Cuadrado old but gold. Danilo can play every position in defense. Full backs not a priority for this year imo
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