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Post by Arquitecto Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:39 am

@Valkyrja wrote:@Arq I agree with you in some way, but on the other hand SAF was kind of Messi for United. I think it’s actually the best comparison possible



On the otherhand SAF never has managed anyone close to what Messi is in pull and presence so that is a hypothetical that was thrown out by me. Would be interesting to see a coach finally begin not to take his shit but I doubt he would last on his job.

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Post by Valkyrja Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:46 am

@Arquitecto wrote:
@Valkyrja wrote:@Arq I agree with you in some way, but on the other hand SAF was kind of Messi for United. I think it’s actually the best comparison possible



On the otherhand SAF never has managed anyone close to what Messi is in pull and presence so that is a hypothetical that was thrown out by me. Would be interesting to see a coach finally begin not to take his shit but I doubt he would last on his job.

Pep would he the only option in that case. As for Messi, he’s by far the best footballer in the world, but the longer he keeps playing for Barca the longer it will take them to get back go the top after. I am afraid their fans will he in for a rude awakening just like those in Manc a few years back. We’ll see I guess
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Post by Kebab Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:26 am

Barcelona's golden era is finished, and team will eventually decline and go back to their pre golden era days. and they never will have golden era unless they make another 11 world class la masia players. In this situation if Messi stays people will blame him for this decline. So its better to leave the sinking ship. At least it will make some lunatic fans who cant see beyond their nose happy temporarily

If he leaves Manchester City is the best place for him. He always had a show against EPL teams. against weaker EPL teams he would make even greater shows. Tons of space to make maradona esque dribblings. The only problem is that success in EPL is not takes seriously by France football
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Post by Arquitecto Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:36 am

Good point Valk actually, and agreed.


@Kebab: EPL for me is most likely next move should he leave next season otherwise I do not think it would be wise to approach should a demanding league physically when he reaches 34. Should he not go to EPL by next season either he will retire with Barça I see it or the smartest prediction is going back to play in Argentina to which he has hinted his whole career.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:01 am

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Assist for Lenglet tonight was Messi's 300th career assist for Barcelona. Also 7th assist hat-trick, and just the second assist for Busquets.

300 assists for Barcelona

For

45 Suarez
24 Pedro
23 Neymar
15 Eto'o
13 Iniesta
13 Villa
12 Pique
11 Sanchez
10 Fabregas
9 Henry

Against

22 Sevilla
21 Levante
15 Espanyol
15 Getafe
14 Real Madrid
13 Valencia
11 Bilbao
11 Villarreal
10 Celta Vigo
10 Betis

Competition

209 La Liga
42 Uefa Champions League
39 Copa Del Rey
6 Supercopa
3 Uefa Super Cup
1 Fifa Club World Cup

Season

36 11-12
33 14-15
28 10-11
26 15-16
26 18-19
23 17-18
22 16-17
18 12-13
17 08-09
16 07-08
16 13-14
16 19-20
14 09-10
5 05-06
4 06-07


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Post by Kick Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:10 am

300 career assists is crazy, but you've only mentioned ~170 there. Where are the other 130 coming from? Is it players like Xavi, Rakitic, Ibra, Dembele and Griez?

There has to be 26 players with an average of 5 assists missing to make up 300. That seems like a lot to me.

I'm not doubting the number, just curious as most of the big names are on that list.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:24 am

Didn't bother listing them all. Here's the next few

9 Rakitic
9 Xavi
8 Alba
8 Bojan
8 Dembele
8 Tello
7 ...
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Post by Kick Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:55 am

Ok so there is more close to 9.

Surprised to see Bojan and Tello there Laughing
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Post by Harmonica Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:33 am

Tello actually has a hat-trick from Messi assists. First assist for Ronaldinho, last for Lenglet, for 50 different players. Might just as well put the full list here:

300 assists for Barcelona (official games)

45 Suarez
24 Pedro
23 Neymar
15 Eto'o
13 Iniesta
13 Villa
12 Pique
11 Sanchez
10 Fabregas
9 Henry
9 Rakitic
9 Xavi
8 Alba
8 Bojan
8 Dembele
8 Tello
7 Keita
4 Alves
4 Ibrahimovic
4 Munir
4 Paulinho
4 Thiago
3 Alcacer
3 Coutinho
3 Own Goal
3 Puyol
2 Abidal
2 Bartra
2 Busquests
2 D.Suarez
2 Fati
2 Giovani
2 Griezmann
2 Lenglet
2 Roberto
2 Ronaldinho
2 Sandro
2 Vidal
1 Adriano
1 Alena
1 Arthur
1 Clerc
1 De Jong
1 Deco
1 Digne
1 Mathieu
1 Rafinha
1 Song
1 Turan
1 Umtiti
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Post by Kick Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:07 am

@Harmonica wrote:Tello actually has a hat-trick from Messi assists. First assist for Ronaldinho, last for Lenglet, for 50 different players. Might just as well put the full list here:

300 assists for Barcelona (official games)

45 Suarez
24 Pedro
23 Neymar
15 Eto'o
13 Iniesta
13 Villa
12 Pique
11 Sanchez
10 Fabregas
9 Henry
9 Rakitic
9 Xavi
8 Alba
8 Bojan
8 Dembele
8 Tello
7 Keita
4 Alves
4 Ibrahimovic
4 Munir
4 Paulinho
4 Thiago
3 Alcacer
3 Coutinho
3 Own Goal
3 Puyol
2 Abidal
2 Bartra
2 Busquests
2 D.Suarez
2 Fati
2 Giovani
2 Griezmann
2 Lenglet
2 Roberto
2 Ronaldinho
2 Sandro
2 Vidal
1 Adriano
1 Alena
1 Arthur
1 Clerc
1 De Jong
1 Deco
1 Digne
1 Mathieu
1 Rafinha
1 Song
1 Turan
1 Umtiti


Hey wait a minute. What is the Tom-foolery?
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Post by Harmonica Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:24 pm

@Kick wrote:Hey wait a minute. What is the Tom-foolery?
Assists include rebounds.
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Post by danyjr Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:27 pm

Harmonica why do you love Messi so much? Don't get me wrong he's the best player I've had the luxury of watching live and I'm proud that a countryman is so loved around the world but I've never encountered a Messi fan who is so dedicated.
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Post by Harmonica Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:33 pm

Just a habit I guess, started downloading his matches 2006 and keeping database of every match. Would be kind of stupid to stop now. I've almost all full Barca matches since 04-05 #964, and almost all competitive Argentina matches, and all matches since 04-05 #315, 3400 gifs, 5,5 TB of overall information.
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Post by Kick Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:02 pm

@Harmonica wrote:
@Kick wrote:Hey wait a minute. What is the Tom-foolery?
Assists include rebounds.


I suppose it depends on who you ask.

Also unless all three own goals were by the same player, wouldn't it be 52 players assisted? Wink

Great numbers regardless. Very interesting reading.
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Post by danyjr Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:02 pm

lol that is some next level dedication. Good on you my man!
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Post by Harmonica Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:36 am

G+A per game since 08-09

1,27 26+7@26 (Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manc, ManU, Tottenham)
1,19 135+61@165 (Atletico, Athletic, Real Madrid, Sevilla, Valencia)
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Post by Kebab Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:26 am

You should try to contact messi family and get paid for this effort. Im also messi fan but never seen dedicated one like Harmonica
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:15 am

@Harmonica wrote:
@Kick wrote:Hey wait a minute. What is the Tom-foolery?
Assists include rebounds.


It's the famous wide assists
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Post by Harmonica Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:10 pm

6th assist in three Liga games

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Post by Myesyats Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:56 pm

The impossible pass. :bow:

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Post by Kebab Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:48 am

Referee is jumping
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Post by Harmonica Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:01 pm

@Kebab wrote:Referee is jumping
Nice spot. The ref was emotionally invested and yet another proof he played for Getafe.
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Post by danyjr Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:03 pm

@Harmonica wrote:
@Kebab wrote:Referee is jumping
Nice spot. The ref was emotionally invested and yet another proof he played for Getafe.
rofl +1
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Post by Harmonica Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:31 pm

Messi becomes the first footballer to win Laureus Sport World Sportsman of the Year!
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Post by Unique Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:37 pm

messi is the only man to nutmeg chuck norris and live to tell the tale.
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Post by FennecFox7 Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:08 am

Getafe has become such an ugly and nasty team. Refs need to be harder on them. They get away with sooo much every game
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