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Post by Harmonica Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:09 am

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Post by Myesyats Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:04 am

@BarcaLearning wrote:Nobody will ever come close to 7 again, CR can play until hes 50 but still wont win another XD

CR will always be the lesser man , and it feels good knowing that fact bothers him
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Post by Harmonica Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:20 pm

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Post by farfan Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:10 pm

Luis Suárez: “Messi told me that he suffered a lot from playing in the cold, and especially in the snow. He has to get used to the cold there [in France]."

Embarrassing. The consensus GOAT can't get it done in non-Mediterranean climate :facepalm: imagine his struggles in the EPL.
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Post by Harmonica Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:12 pm

@farfan wrote:Embarrassing. The consensus GOAT can't get it done in non-Mediterranean climate :facepalm: imagine his struggles in the EPL.
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Post by Harmonica Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:18 pm

Last game was the best game physically since the knee tackle against Venezuela in Copa. Slowly getting there, and now that Argentina has qualified, there's no need to give it all the other side of the world anymore.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:53 pm

@farfan wrote:Luis Suárez: “Messi told me that he suffered a lot from playing in the cold, and especially in the snow. He has to get used to the cold there [in France]."

Embarrassing. The consensus GOAT can't get it done in non-Mediterranean climate :facepalm: imagine his struggles in the EPL.
Sure, which is why he has so many memorable performances all over Europe...

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Post by farfan Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:55 pm

Let's not get into technicalities.
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Post by futbol_bill Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:10 pm

Jovic, with 545 less minutes than Messi has same number of goals!
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Post by Harmonica Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:07 pm

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Post by Myesyats Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:46 am

What a great penaldo. Fantastic technique and plenty of power, I love when he hits it just perfectly smooth like that
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:19 am

Penaldo is a great comparison for what Messi has become. A few clutch performances, some pen Stat padding, sometimes invisible in the league .
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Post by _LMG_10_ Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:13 pm

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Rare to see him with that much space. But this is what he does to you when he has space.

When I watch highlights of past legends the biggest difference I notice is the amount of space they had to operate in. Sure, the game was more physical but the defensive organization and man-marking wasn't as rigorous, tactical, and organized as it is now, on average.

I was watching a ton of Ronaldinho highlights yesterday and while he's a magician, he was often afforded plenty of space to operate in and work his magic around the pitch (at least compared to Messi). I couldn't help but notice this. And please don't misinterpret me, I know Ronaldinho created magic in tight spaces too (that goal in CL vs Chelsea).

I just imagine how many more goals Messi would score if he had just 1-2% more space or anywhere near what they used to have, in general.

Not trying to belittle past legends and I'm one of the biggest Ronaldinho fans but what Messi does is simply astounding and it's crazy to see a lot of people becoming desensitized to it.

That's why the "Lionel Messi vs space" video is so crucial.

That's why the "he played in a more physical era" argument against Messi is so flawed, it only looks at one side of the story.

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Post by Harmonica Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:12 pm

Yep, and even in this game he was team marked. As in there was always eyes on him, who ever was the closest. Every time he was to receive pass back on opposition, there was somebody already coming on to him to anticipate the pass. And then the person followed him until he released the ball. It's hilarious to watch really, as no-one else receives that kind of attention.

Read a statistic yesterday that Messi has scored 16 goals from outside box this season, highest in his career, and maybe even a record ever. That's because teams usually want to stay below Messi in the field, there always has to be wall of players between him and the goal. And when ever Messi is on top of the box, usually the whole opposition sits inside the box. Of course there will be overload, and mistakes, in which Messi usually punishes like no-one else.
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Post by El Gunner Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:35 pm

you mean this year and not season... but it'll be interesting to see the record numbers list on that... follow it up since you are our premier Messi stats-finder Thumbs up
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Post by Kebab Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:58 am

When he shoots its always a goal or something clever. Anyone know more accurate shooter than Messi?
I think his great ball control while running helps his shooting, its like he controls it with his hands and puts the ball in perfect position for shooting. For others one wrong touch before shooting and they send the ball to the space
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Post by Kebab Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:28 pm

Bad memories but good performance by messi
It was ballon dor deciding match between van dijk and messi

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Post by Harmonica Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:57 pm

^ Two moments in the same match, probably the greatest ever CL-freekick

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and the worst moment of Barcelona club history

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Post by Found Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:09 pm

@Harmonica wrote:

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Should have passed it to Pique. Pique was in Dembele’s way, low IQ moment from Pessi.
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Post by farfan Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:37 pm

I was wondering why Harmonica seemed to have abandoned WhoScored as his go-to source for player ratings. hmm

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Post by BarcaLearning Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:16 pm

@Kebab wrote:Bad memories but good performance by messi
It was ballon dor deciding match between van dijk and messi



This just shows how good he is, just on another planet, even to LFC players. Sad now no more watching his magic week in week out, instead we get Barca B players/Depay/Luuk etc., etc. Sad
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Post by Harmonica Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:04 am

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Post by farfan Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:52 am

@Harmonica wrote:^ Two moments in the same match, probably the greatest ever CL-freekick

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Reminder that Messi got that freekick for punching Fabinho in the face Laughing
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:08 pm

Grealish better dribbler than messi confirmed?
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Post by Found Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:45 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Grealish better dribbler than messi confirmed?


You might not like it, you might even laugh at it, but it’s now statistically proven to be the ultimate ball progressing technique.
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Post by Harmonica Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:20 pm

Most assists (strict) in a single calendar year in top 7 leagues since 2003

36 - Messi 2011
35 - Tadic 2021
34 - Tadic 2019
32 - Ozil 2011
31 - Messi 2016
31 - Henry 2003
30 - Ozil 2013
30 - Ziyech 2019
30 - Muller 2021
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