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Post by Harmonica Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:20 am

Slow down, shoulder, nutmeg. 22 GA I'm fairly sure is a WC record, Pele is on 20 ( 12+8 ).

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Post by Harmonica Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:07 pm

Proud

Football career complete, my life complete.

Too many stats but: first player to win all the 5 available trophies and 4 available best player tituleros in NT-football.

World Cup (Golden Ball)
Copa America (MVP)
Olympics
Intercontinental Cup (MoM)
World Cup u20 (Golden Ball)

To think he wasn't good in NT, retired, and to come back like this. Words cannot describe...
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Post by Pedram Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:11 pm

Harmonica wrote:Proud

Football career complete, my life complete.

Too many stats but: first player to win all the 5 available trophies and 4 available best player tituleros in NT-football.

World Cup (Golden Ball)
Copa America (MVP)
Olympics
Intercontinental Cup (MoM)
World Cup u20 (Golden Ball)

To think he wasn't good in NT, retired, and to come back like this. Words cannot describe...

Always believed in you Harmonica
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Post by neuro11 Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:01 pm

What he achieved in Qatar at the age of 35 is just extraordinary. Legends rise on the occasion. and he surely did.

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Post by Found Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:04 pm

Harmonica wrote:Proud

Football career complete, my life complete.

Too many stats but: first player to win all the 5 available trophies and 4 available best player tituleros in NT-football.

World Cup (Golden Ball)
Copa America (MVP)
Olympics
Intercontinental Cup (MoM)
World Cup u20 (Golden Ball)

To think he wasn't good in NT, retired, and to come back like this. Words cannot describe...

The GOAT fan and the GOAT sportsman Proud

The only OAP sportsman to gobble up the next generation that came after him. Mbappe going to be a grandpa before he wins a Ballon D’or Proud
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Post by Harmonica Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:31 pm

Most major Player of the Tournament awards in NT

   4 Messi (WC22, WC14, CA21, CA15)
   3 Nasazzi (WC30, CA35, CA15)
   2 Ronaldo (WC98, CA97)
   2 Zidane (WC06, EU00)
   2 Pele (WC70, CA59-1)
   2 Seoane (CA27, CA25)
   2 Francescoli (CA95, CA83)
   1 ...

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t39530p100-lionel-mesxit-the-national-team-is-over-for-me?highlight=lionel

Was just reading back the Messi retirement thread, and it was nice back and forth between Messi and Cronaldo fans, very high tempered, multiple pages. Then suddenly, out of the blue
guest_07 wrote:no riquelme no party for argentina

just admit it
Lost it. I might be biggest Messi fan, but not the biggest fan lmao.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:54 am

With the last match beats the World Cup record with Opta assists too, 24 GA with wide assists.
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Post by Harmonica Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:38 am

Beats the most important record too, most liked instagram post, beating the old record held by an egg with 56M likes.

https://twitter.com/Lionel30i/status/1605155087852371968
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Post by Cruijf Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:24 am

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think if PSG wins the Coupe de la Ligue this year Messi will have won every trophy that has ever been possible for him to win. Would be an insane achievement.
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Post by guest_07 Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:30 am

Harmonica wrote:Most major Player of the Tournament awards in NT

   4 Messi (WC22, WC14, CA21, CA15)
   3 Nasazzi (WC30, CA35, CA15)
   2 Ronaldo (WC98, CA97)
   2 Zidane (WC06, EU00)
   2 Pele (WC70, CA59-1)
   2 Seoane (CA27, CA25)
   2 Francescoli (CA95, CA83)
   1 ...

https://goallegacy.forumotion.com/t39530p100-lionel-mesxit-the-national-team-is-over-for-me?highlight=lionel

Was just reading back the Messi retirement thread, and it was nice back and forth between Messi and Cronaldo fans, very high tempered, multiple pages. Then suddenly, out of the blue
guest_07 wrote:no riquelme no party for argentina

just admit it
Lost it. I might be biggest Messi fan, but not the biggest fan lmao.


Ok. Sorry. I'm wrong in that statement.
I admit it.

I happy that Messi at last,
won the Copa & WC.

Although I'm not the type of people that claim,
the trophy determine how greatness the footballer is.
Messi already the greatest footballer
without considering his trophies.

Applaud for the never say die attitude.
Ignoring the temporary retirement.

But still,
Riquelme is the better playmaker.
But Messi, in overall, a better footballer.

Wallahu a'lam.

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Post by Harmonica Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:00 am

Cruijf wrote:Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think if PSG wins the Coupe de la Ligue this year Messi will have won every trophy that has ever been possible for him to win. Would be an insane achievement.
That's true I think, if you don't count South American Youth Championship, in which Argentina got to third.
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Post by El Gunner Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:14 pm



35 - a goal for every year of his life, and still not a single tap-in. Cronaldo fanboys really tried to celebrate his falloff last season lol
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Post by Casciavit Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:00 am

El Gunner wrote:

35 - a goal for every year of his life, and still not a single tap-in. Cronaldo fanboys really tried to celebrate his falloff last season lol


I was told I was writing drivels worth of nonsense and was called a fanboy because I said most of the blame is due to Poch.

This was even before Messi came out and said he was depressed about leaving Barca then had injuries and then dealt with long Covid.

Glad I stuck by him.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:49 am

lob at 2:18 is against whom? haven't seen that one

gonna miss his finishing technique for sure, one of a kind
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Post by El Gunner Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:45 am

probably a friendly before the WC or earlier in the year
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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:40 pm

Felt like his WC he took charge of the midfield and put in the dirty work. He’s really improved how he dictates the pace of the game. This is something he lacked a bit earlier in his career. Most people don’t see that but i see the way he’s adapted his game. Curious to see how this plays out in CL. I expect PSG to win it this year if their inform players keep their momentum
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:08 am

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Post by Harmonica Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:20 am

World Cup MoM performances by Sofascore (opta) since 1966

11 Lionel Messi (Argentina)
6 Johan Cruyff (Netherlands)
5 Miroslav Klose (Germany), Diego Maradona (Argentina)
4 David Beckham (England), Antoine Griezmann (France), Gerd Muller (West Germany), Thomas Muller (Germany), Andrea Pirlo (Italy), Luis Suarez (Uruguay)
3.5 Landon Donovan (USA)
3 Roberto Baggio (Italy), Oliver Bierhoff (Germany), Zbigniew Boniek (Poland), Andreas Brehme (West Germany), Careca (Brazil), Teofilo Cubillas (Peru), Rinat Dasaev (USSR), Dunga (Brazil), Eusebio (Portugal), Bruno Fernandes (Portugal), Gheorghe Hagi (Romania), Eden Hazard (Belgium), Jairzinho (Brazil), Wim Jonk (Netherlands), Bo Larsson (Sweden), Gary Lineker (England), Rafael Marquez (Mexico), Lothar Matthaus (West/Germany), Michel (Spain), Guillermo Ochoa (Mexico), Pele (Brazil), Rivaldo (Brazil), Arjen Robben (Netherlands), James Rodriguez (Colombia), Juan Sebastian Veron (Argentina), Christian Vieri (Italy), David Villa (Spain), Rudi Voller (West/Germany)
2.5 Pierre Littbarski (West Germany), Jozef Mlynarczyk (Poland)
2 ...
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275 Messi
35 Mbappe
30 Benzema
15 Modric
5 Haaland
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:45 pm

Harmonica wrote:World Cup MoM performances by Sofascore (opta) since 1966

11 Lionel Messi (Argentina)
6 Johan Cruyff (Netherlands)
5 Miroslav Klose (Germany), Diego Maradona (Argentina)
4 David Beckham (England), Antoine Griezmann (France), Gerd Muller (West Germany), Thomas Muller (Germany), Andrea Pirlo (Italy), Luis Suarez (Uruguay)
3.5 Landon Donovan (USA)
3 Roberto Baggio (Italy), Oliver Bierhoff (Germany), Zbigniew Boniek (Poland), Andreas Brehme (West Germany), Careca (Brazil), Teofilo Cubillas (Peru), Rinat Dasaev (USSR), Dunga (Brazil), Eusebio (Portugal), Bruno Fernandes (Portugal), Gheorghe Hagi (Romania), Eden Hazard (Belgium), Jairzinho (Brazil), Wim Jonk (Netherlands), Bo Larsson (Sweden), Gary Lineker (England), Rafael Marquez (Mexico), Lothar Matthaus (West/Germany), Michel (Spain), Guillermo Ochoa (Mexico), Pele (Brazil), Rivaldo (Brazil), Arjen Robben (Netherlands), James Rodriguez (Colombia), Juan Sebastian Veron (Argentina), Christian Vieri (Italy), David Villa (Spain), Rudi Voller (West/Germany)
2.5 Pierre Littbarski (West Germany), Jozef Mlynarczyk (Poland)
2 ...


That's unfair, Germany and the Netherlands for example had entire squads that were good. So of course he gets to be ahead of Cruyff, Cruyff had team mates.


This might be a bit of a troll post.
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Post by Harmonica Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:51 pm

That does get few MoM's less when you can rest more if your team still gets it done. Cruyff mostly has only 6 MoM's because he only played one WC and seven games. Although that's no guarantee that he would've gotten any more.

Most Sofascore (opta) MoM's in single WC since 1966

6 - Cruyff 1974
5 - Messi 2022
4 - Maradona 1986, Pirlo 2006
3 - Beirhoff 1998, Brehme 1990, Dasaev 1982, Eusebio 1966, Messi 2014, Muller 1970
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