Re: The Racism Thread

[Myesyats]

He seems mentally challenged tbh

[Warrior]

Stone cold hook

[Thimmy]

He seems mentally challenged tbh

I couldn’t help but notice his incredibly awkward body language. He looked less awkward when he was out cold on the ground

[Myesyats]

I was wondering why Clayton Bigsby was trending

It's scary to see how right Dave Chappelle was about a lot of things

(It goes without saying that Daniel Sims is a full blown ) pic.twitter.com/NwEOCef3xG

— P. Is The Opposite Of Doja Cat (@chillin662) August 13, 2020

[McLewis]

A study of us being products of our surroundings and environments. As funny as Chappelle's skit was, I honestly don't find this funny. This man has been indoctrinated and brainwashed. A cruel joke by the people that raised him.

[Blue]

When did this become a thing? Where appreciating a culture become a bad thing, and discouraging it was in the name of anti racism?

[El Gunner]

people are fucking stupid, scratch that people are stupid, yes, but Americans take stupidity to another level because it seems they have been the ones mostly complaining about it

i've said before on this forum, unless it is blatant mocking or insulting in a derogatory way, "cultural appropriation" is the most stupidest notion i've ever heard of

[BarrileteCosmico]

When did this become a thing? Where appreciating a culture become a bad thing, and discouraging it was in the name of anti racism?

The anti "appropriation" crowd is very small but loud, most people have not problem whatsoever with this and understanding the enrichment that comes from sharing things across cultures

[Myesyats]

Twitter is a cesspoll in that matter, I doubt anyone would actually walk up to her on the street IRL and say "You're appropriating my culture". What people describe and say on social media is a distorted and vastly exaggarated version of reality which is at its finest in America it seems like. I mean, if you're eating African cuisine are you also appropriating the culture? It's not like they're taking their land.... anymore.

[Myesyats]

Also she referes to Africa as a "country" so there is that too

[McLewis]

When did this become a thing? Where appreciating a culture become a bad thing, and discouraging it was in the name of anti racism?

I think it's important to understand where the anger is coming from. What's underneath. For African Americans, as always, it's about history.

Bantu knots are distinctly African and are worn with a sense of pride in being of African heritage, as are dread locks, sister locks and other iconic black hairstyles. And then the predominantly white fashion industry discovered it and used it for their own purposes, even renaming them "twisted mini buns". They completely erased its African history and white-washed it. That's not appreciation. That's absolutely appropriation. Some believe even to this day that the hairstyle was made famous by Bjork when it's been around since the 1500s. That's where so much of the anger comes from. Hairstyles are a big part of black women's identity and when white women, who dominate so much of the fashion scene already, wear those styles, the feeling is that very unique identity is being stolen from black women too. My partner is a black woman and she was very derisive of Adele for wearing this style. "We can't ever have anything for ourselves" is what she said. That sums up the frustration.

Now that said, I took a look at the Twitter trends on this and it's quite interesting. The only folks pissed off about this are largely African Americans. Native Africans actually are defending Adele's use and given the style originated there. They don't care that she's white. I think they'd celebrate anyone rocking something that represents their culture. She's wearing a bikini top with the Jamaican flag as well and Jamaicans are defending her for that too. The other group of black folks who are rallying around her are Black English people and that's because she grew up in Tottenham, a community well know for its sizable African population. She's considered one of them and if she wants to rock parts of their culture, they're going to back her. I liken this almost to a white girl growing up in the projects on the South Side of Chicago and then deciding to have her hair done like this. That community would probably support her because they know who she is and where she comes from. Her skin color wouldn't be as big a factor.

[Myesyats]

lol thats funny

Leave my Good sis Adele ALONE! You will catch these hands.

#Adele #NottingHillCarnival pic.twitter.com/Io14hB1vWE

— Antisocial Extrovert (@SarelRose) September 1, 2020

[El Gunner]

When did this become a thing? Where appreciating a culture become a bad thing, and discouraging it was in the name of anti racism?

I think it's important to understand where the anger is coming from. What's underneath. For African Americans, as always, it's about history.

Bantu knots are distinctly African and are worn with a sense of pride in being of African heritage, as are dread locks, sister locks and other iconic black hairstyles. And then the predominantly white fashion industry discovered it and used it for their own purposes, even renaming them "twisted mini buns". They completely erased its African history and white-washed it. That's not appreciation. That's absolutely appropriation. Some believe even to this day that the hairstyle was made famous by Bjork when it's been around since the 1500s. That's where so much of the anger comes from. Hairstyles are a big part of black women's identity and when white women, who dominate so much of the fashion scene already, wear those styles, the feeling is that very unique identity is being stolen from black women too. My partner is a black woman and she was very derisive of Adele for wearing this style. "We can't ever have anything for ourselves" is what she said. That sums up the frustration.

yea McLewis, but that absolutely has nothing to do with Adele wearing them for one day at a cultural event in another country. Maybe Black Americans should stop wanting to get a pain in they ass everytime they see a white person, and think a bit more before they react.

"we can't have anything for ourselves" - blatant exaggeration and victimhood mentality 101. There's a lot of heritage/traditions/pride Black people still share amongst themselves all over the world. Like come to Africa and see, travel the world some, follow other nationalities over the internet and social media and learn more, read books from other countries, ya'know? I'm sure in America, Black Americans still have certain admirable cultures only they have in common.

And we live in a globalised world now, why would you be so against wanting to keep things just for yourself and not share with others.

[McLewis]

When did this become a thing? Where appreciating a culture become a bad thing, and discouraging it was in the name of anti racism?

I think it's important to understand where the anger is coming from. What's underneath. For African Americans, as always, it's about history.

Bantu knots are distinctly African and are worn with a sense of pride in being of African heritage, as are dread locks, sister locks and other iconic black hairstyles. And then the predominantly white fashion industry discovered it and used it for their own purposes, even renaming them "twisted mini buns". They completely erased its African history and white-washed it. That's not appreciation. That's absolutely appropriation. Some believe even to this day that the hairstyle was made famous by Bjork when it's been around since the 1500s. That's where so much of the anger comes from. Hairstyles are a big part of black women's identity and when white women, who dominate so much of the fashion scene already, wear those styles, the feeling is that very unique identity is being stolen from black women too. My partner is a black woman and she was very derisive of Adele for wearing this style. "We can't ever have anything for ourselves" is what she said. That sums up the frustration.

yea McLewis, but that absolutely has nothing to do with Adele wearing them for one day at a cultural event in another country. Maybe Black Americans should stop wanting to get a pain in they ass everytime they see a white person, and think a bit more before they react.

"we can't have anything for ourselves" - blatant exaggeration and victimhood mentality 101. There's a lot of heritage/traditions/pride Black people still share amongst themselves all over the world. Like come to Africa and see, travel the world some, follow other nationalities over the internet and social media and learn more, read books from other countries, ya'know? I'm sure in America, Black Americans still have certain admirable cultures only they have in common.

And we live in a globalised world now, why would you be so against wanting to keep things just for yourself and not share with others.

For clarity, Cultural appropriation vs appreciation has never really been high on my list of racial grievances. It's too subjective.

What I will say is my partner said that not thinking about Adele's nationality, but purely her skin color. I mean this happens a lot here in the US. To the point it gets projected to white people everywhere. White girls see a black hair style (or nails, or clothes or whatever else) that is cool to them and they appropriate it under the guise of appreciating it. White boys have famously done this with rap music. They have no idea how rap music came about and where it comes from or the situations some of these rappers were in that inspired their lyrics. They just know it sounds dope. There's absolutely no context.

So yeah I take your point that the more global angle to this does not put us (Black americans) in the best light. I consider myself a bit more learned of black communities in other countries, but many people around me are not. They look at these issues through a far more narrow lens, which as you pointed out, is ironic given the message of overall global unity (think One Love) that often runs parallel.

[Young Kaz]

Lead up to the #denvershooting #denverprotests pic.twitter.com/5lMZuPnDap

— Rusty 5D (@rustyyyyy69) October 10, 2020

Fuck around and find out

Pinkerton is killing white supremacists now? We have reached peak 2020.

[Young Kaz]

[Myesyats]

Nike should make an ad about how their shoes are manufactured in asian countries

[Young Kaz]

Nike should make an ad about how their shoes are manufactured in asian countries

I actually thought you would agree with the video. It shows racism in Japanese society. Do you disagree with the premise?

[Myesyats]

Ambivalent. It's nice and all but I don't believe those ads ever have any impact and also the moral posturing is annoying when you literally have slave camps in the 3rd world.

I don't understand all the talk about Jews in the comments though. There's plenty of nazi propaganda down there, the usual "we fought the wrong enemy" stuff and plenty of "small hats, long noses" stuff which is again clearly aimed at jews, very confusing.

Is this because Japan was on the axis side in WW2? I'm not a fan of israel either but the amount of anti semitism in these comments is unreal and thats only the english ones. Can you shed a light on what the japanese comments say? I translated some of them and Koreans seem to also get a lot of heat.

[Young Kaz]

Ambivalent. It's nice and all but I don't believe those ads ever have any impact and also the moral posturing is annoying when you literally have slave camps in the 3rd world.

I don't understand all the talk about Jews in the comments though. There's plenty of nazi propaganda down there, the usual "we fought the wrong enemy" stuff and plenty of "small hats, long noses" stuff which is again clearly aimed at jews, very confusing.

Is this because Japan was on the axis side in WW2? I'm not a fan of israel either but the amount of anti semitism in these comments is unreal and thats only the english ones. Can you shed a light on what the japanese comments say? I translated some of them and Koreans seem to also get a lot of heat.

Jews are attacked on every youtube video now from what I see. Nazis have to point out failures of themselves by blaming it on jews. Same way with Japanese that hate Koreans.

The Japanese comments are mostly stupidity. The same ones complaining down there are the main people cheering when Naomi Osaka wins. Its character failures.

[Babun]

Child labour is the least of their wrongdoings (google Nike sweatshops for further reference):
https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/nike-is-facing-a-new-wave-of-anti-sweatshop-protests/

I don't buy anything Nike. Adidas and Puma weren't any better but they're improving (subcontractors' lists fully disclosed, they adhere to the minimum standard of the countries they produce and force their policies onto their subcontractors). Reebok has got the same shitty Korean subcontracters like Nike in China (child labour and exploitation). I don't buy anything from them either until they'll fix the issues.

[BarrileteCosmico]

At least with child labor you could make a reasonable argument that it's voluntary and these children would be working elsewhere and making better wages at it. It's no 100% evil.

Gotta draw the line at forced labor though, that is 100% evil:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/report-nike-lobbying-against-anti-china-bill-banning-import-of-products-made-by-forced-uyghur-labor

[Myesyats]

Jews are attacked on every youtube video now from what I see. Nazis have to point out failures of themselves by blaming it on jews. Same way with Japanese that hate Koreans.

The Japanese comments are mostly stupidity. The same ones complaining down there are the main people cheering when Naomi Osaka wins. Its character failures.

To be fair Nazis aside, Israel has been really making a lot of enemies in general lately. The Palestinian conflict etc. I think a couple years ago they attacked Poles too blaming us for the death camps and thus favorable views toward Jews are definitely not at an all-time high. Naturally we also need to separate government from the people.

The Korean-Japanese dynamic however remains a mystery. You guys are so alike it seems but historically it's been a bumpy ride and now there seems to be a lot of tension. I want to read more into that.

[Young Kaz]

Child labour is the least of their wrongdoings (google Nike sweatshops for further reference):
https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/nike-is-facing-a-new-wave-of-anti-sweatshop-protests/

I don't buy anything Nike. Adidas and Puma weren't any better but they're improving (subcontractors' lists fully disclosed, they adhere to the minimum standard of the countries they produce and force their policies onto their subcontractors). Reebok has got the same shitty Korean subcontracters like Nike in China (child labour and exploitation). I don't buy anything from them either until they'll fix the issues.

This is besides the point. Nike made a good advert about Racism in Japan, and people got their panties twisted in a knot because they want their racism to remain(Japanese) or because they dont want people to attack the place that makes their shitty ass European worshipping Cartoons/Video games and Child Porn(everybody else mad about it).

The honest truth is to avoid everything made with Chinese exploitation would be to avoid EVERYTHING. China is the manufacturing plant of this earth now, and you wont avoid it any more than the African could avoid European Imperialism in the 20th century. You will use it whether you like it or not. Whether or not you buy Nike is of no consequence. You'll buy FIFA which pays for their likeness in the game. You'll support football teams in partnerships with them. You'll patronize business that is directly aligned with them. If you even WATCH the Bundesliga you are paying them. 1/3rd of that leagues team are sponsored by Nike alone.

[Young Kaz]

Jews are attacked on every youtube video now from what I see. Nazis have to point out failures of themselves by blaming it on jews. Same way with Japanese that hate Koreans.

The Japanese comments are mostly stupidity. The same ones complaining down there are the main people cheering when Naomi Osaka wins. Its character failures.

To be fair Nazis aside, Israel has been really making a lot of enemies in general lately. The Palestinian conflict etc. I think a couple years ago they attacked Poles too blaming us for the death camps and thus favorable views toward Jews are definitely not at an all-time high. Naturally we also need to separate government from the people.

The Korean-Japanese dynamic however remains a mystery. You guys are so alike it seems but historically it's been a bumpy ride and now there seems to be a lot of tension. I want to read more into that.

Nazis aside Israel wouldnt exist at all. Nothing like genocide to kick peoples ass into gear to make(or take in their case) your own country. I wouldnt be shocked if Poland supported the death camps. Europeans have historically had a hate boner for the Jewish population. It wasnt just Germany/Austria and Italy.

The Korea thing is just cultural. I think I remember saying on here. My youngest sister was born during a difficult labor process, in which we seemed to be in a hospital waiting room for hours. When the doctor finally came out to speak to us my grandfather, with tears in his eyes, asked: "Tell me doctor, Will She hate koreans as much as he?" while pointing at me. Thank god she was ok and is my little homie now, but I never forgot that. I didnt hate Koreans, and honestly he didnt either(hopefully). It was just the expectation he placed on me based on culture. People fall into racism not by being full racists themselves, but just going along with the flow of cultural norms. Its just as bad as being actual racists in the end.

[Myesyats]

Nazis aside Israel wouldnt exist at all. Nothing like genocide to kick peoples ass into gear to make(or take in their case) your own country. I wouldnt be shocked if Poland supported the death camps. Europeans have historically had a hate boner for the Jewish population. It wasnt just Germany/Austria and Italy.

The Korea thing is just cultural. I think I remember saying on here. My youngest sister was born during a difficult labor process, in which we seemed to be in a hospital waiting room for hours. When the doctor finally came out to speak to us my grandfather, with tears in his eyes, asked: "Tell me doctor, Will She hate koreans as much as he?" while pointing at me. Thank god she was ok and is my little homie now, but I never forgot that. I didnt hate Koreans, and honestly he didnt either(hopefully). It was just the expectation he placed on me based on culture. People fall into racism not by being full racists themselves, but just going along with the flow of cultural norms. Its just as bad as being actual racists in the end.

That's a bit of a stretch. Jews in poland were poles too and they were living peacefully together with other religions and nationalities. There was no widespread anti-jew movement. Besides jew-poles and regular poles were both thrown into death camps alongisde each other.

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