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Post by Mr Nick09 Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:24 am

OFFICIAL: *UPDATED* 06/20/19

1) Llorente to Atletico Madrid: 40 millions
2) Kovacic to Chelsea           : 50 millions
3) Raul de Tomás to Benfica : 25 millions
4) THeo Hernandez to Milan  : 20 millions
5) Mario Hermoso to Atletico : 12.5 millions

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TOTAL................................: 147.5 millions


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Post by sportsczy Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:36 am

Bale.... back of peanuts and half eaten fries... and we'll take it gladly.
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Post by Perucho21 Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:22 am

James has also been strongly linked with Napoli. However it's likely his future won't be sorted out until after the copa America.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:15 pm

Yes it was reported by Marca we have a standing offer of 10 millions loan + 40 mil option to buy from Napoli buy we want an obligation to buy, not an option.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:07 pm

i think it's official now, Llorente to Atletico for 40 millions


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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:36 pm

I wish him the very best. I would have liked for him to go to any other team insteas of Atleti but you can't force him to move out of his City if he is settled there. Shame to lose him
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:38 pm

My God I just saw Atletico's targets. They are putting together one hell of a team
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:51 pm

Navas and RDT nearing Benfica

Luca Z as n2 getting closer Laughing
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Post by futbol_bill Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:17 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Navas and RDT nearing Benfica

Luca Z as n2 getting closer Laughing


No Hala, it looks like Lunin will be staying. He has been impressive in U21.
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Post by futbol_bill Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:27 pm

I was watching Spain U21, and Ceballos and Vallejo were very impressive. Ceballos is dictating and controlLing the offense and Captain Vallejo is doing same on defense. It was same thing with Isco and Asensio with senior team a few weeks ago.

What this tells me is that most if not all of the Spanish talent we have had is talented, very in fact. The problem seems to me is they don’t fit in the style Real Madrid play. (I’ll exclude Asensio for a moment as I think his issue is more related to pressure and confidence.)

All programs throughout Spain are developing players in a possession environment, ball control, quick passes. Given the NT is trying to change the possession game to more direct and less predicable, maybe it’s time to readjust the philosophy of youth development tactics?
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Post by Valkyrja Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:20 pm

Asensio's issue is that the only thing he is good at his long range shooting
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Post by VanDeezNuts Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:09 pm

@hala I think Atletico are going to have a reaaaally tough time. They might bring in Llorente, but so much of their team is being picked apart. Godin, Lucas, Juanfran, Vietto gone, Rodri likely going to City, Griezmann to Barca. Complete rebuild.

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Post by futbol_bill Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:15 pm

Watch him play on seleccion before you make that statement! He clearly had issues last season and with newcomers, his time at Madrid is almost over. I feel his issues are first and foremost, him not able to handle the pressure and secondly, it is obvious his confidence has been scattered. Either he gets his act together quickly or next season will likely be last with Real.

But that aside, there is a very noticeable difference in the play of Spaniards, specifically with Isco, Asensio, Ceballos and Vallejo when they are playing for Spain vs Real. We can debate until were blue in the face as to why, but I can definitely say all 4 of them were very positive in their NT play,
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Post by Doc Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:37 pm

Vallejo's issue has always been staying fit long enough to get proper game time. Ceballos' issue is Zidane basically. I think they would be fine at Madrid if it weren't for their current issues. Asensio, well, I don't know, I really don't know how things would turn out for him at the club.

All in all, not too fond of Llorente going Atleti at all.
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Post by Perucho21 Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:56 pm

Sucks about Llorente but nothing we can do. Casemiro is still our starter and one of the best in the position.

However I do hope Zidane has a plan for back up because for a few years I remember that being a big issue
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Post by Cyborg Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:14 pm

Real Madrid have to sell some players but you still need a squad

You can't have a starting eleven only.

Some players will stay. The only other depart will probably be Bale and Keylor.

Asensio is so good, once in a good system. I can see him starting over vinicus on the right.

If he is disciplined enough he can become a central mid like modric did.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:50 pm

Asensio doesn't have any of the qualities or fit any type of player profile that Modric did at this age. Asensio could come good, but we will have to see what happens this season.

Even after all these departures, we will still have a squad, our squad is so bloated at the moment- over 35 players in the first team. At least 10 players will need the chop, we can start with:

Bale, Vazquez, RDT (or Mariano ), Mayoral, James, Isco, Ceballos, Llorente, Can you believe Lucas Silva is still on the books?, Theo, Vallejo, Navas.

Considering Llorente and Ceballos are basically out already, I wonder if ZZ will retain Kovacic to cover CDM. Not my favorite option but better than nothing. Then we would look like:

GK: Courtois, Lunin, Luca
RB: Carva, Odri
CB: Ramos, Varane, Militao, Nacho
LB: Marcelo, Mendy
CDM: Casemiro, Kovacic
CM: (Pogba), Kroos, Modric, Fede
RW: Vini, Brahim, Asensio
CF: Benzema, Jovic, Mariano or RDT
LW: Hazard, Rodrygo

That is a probable 25-man squad. I could see that happening. Will partially depend on the difficulty in moving the likes of James and Bale.

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Post by futbol_bill Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:09 pm

Just a couple of comments, RDT, James, Lucas Silva have deals in progress. That plus llorente can be assumed gone. All the rest you mentioned Deez are likely gone with the exception of Bale. That one seems very complicated. I can see him on squad, but out golfing daily.

Brahim, I believe will go out on loan.plus I don’t see Kovacic back, Kroos is the alternative in the mind of Zidane. I also don’t think Mariano will be here, nor de Tomas. But I can see Lucas remaining. as a squad multi purpose 24th or 25th player..

Re Asensio, I think this will be his last year here. I think the future is the 2  Brazilians, Jovic and maybe Mbappe. definitely do not see him in midfield!
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Post by VanDeezNuts Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:54 pm

But why would we sell Mariano AND RDT without a true 3rd option for CF, that doesn't make sense.

Also ZZ stated somewhere how much he likes Brahim and wants him in the squad next season (something along those lines), so I think he will stay as one of the extra option attacking mids.

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Post by Freeza Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:13 am

vanDEEZ wrote:Asensio doesn't have any of the qualities or fit any type of player profile that Modric did at this age. Asensio could come good, but we will have to see what happens this season.

Even after all these departures, we will still have a squad, our squad is so bloated at the moment- over 35 players in the first team. At least 10 players will need the chop, we can start with:

Bale, Vazquez, RDT (or Mariano ), Mayoral, James, Isco, Ceballos, Llorente, Can you believe Lucas Silva is still on the books?, Theo, Vallejo, Navas.

Considering Llorente and Ceballos are basically out already, I wonder if ZZ will retain Kovacic to cover CDM. Not my favorite option but better than nothing. Then we would look like:

GK: Courtois, Lunin, Luca
RB: Carva, Odri
CB: Ramos, Varane, Militao, Nacho
LB: Marcelo, Mendy
CDM: Casemiro, Kovacic
CM: (Pogba), Kroos, Modric, Fede
RW: Vini, Brahim, Asensio
CF: Benzema, Jovic, Mariano or RDT
LW: Hazard, Rodrygo

That is a probable 25-man squad. I could see that happening. Will partially depend on the difficulty in moving the likes of James and Bale.


Lunin isn't a EU-player, is he?

Think him or Rodrygo will be out. Unless there's a youth/castilla loop hole to circumvent that rule.
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Post by Thimmy Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:57 am

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All in all, not too fond of Llorente going Atleti at all.


I'm not too fond of it either. I don't think injuries has been his only issue for us. He seemed to be far behind in the pecking order when he was fit during Zidane's last tenure. Would've absolutely preferred to keep him as a backup, but I suppose it was in his best interest to leave. As for Atletico, contrary to recent reports, Joao Felix doesn't seem to be going to the red side of Madrid. The future of their team looks to be up in the air, right now.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:57 am

like Vinicius las season, it's likely that Rodrygo will be registered with Castilla to go around the EU rule for the first team
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Post by Freeza Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:07 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:like Vinicius las season, it's likely that Rodrygo will be registered with Castilla to go around the EU rule for the first team


Makes sense then.
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Post by Doc Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:26 am

Thimmy wrote:
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All in all, not too fond of Llorente going Atleti at all.


I'm not too fond of it either. I don't think injuries has been his only issue for us. He seemed to be far behind in the pecking order when he was fit during Zidane's last tenure. Would've absolutely preferred to keep him as a backup, but I suppose it was in his best interest to leave. As for Atletico, contrary to recent reports, Joao Felix doesn't seem to be going to the red side of Madrid. The future of their team looks to be up in the air, right now.

I think the purchase of Joao Felix is solely dependent on the sale of Griezmann. If Antoine isn't sold, I think there is no money for Felix.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:09 am

Doc wrote:
Thimmy wrote:
Doc wrote:
All in all, not too fond of Llorente going Atleti at all.


I'm not too fond of it either. I don't think injuries has been his only issue for us. He seemed to be far behind in the pecking order when he was fit during Zidane's last tenure. Would've absolutely preferred to keep him as a backup, but I suppose it was in his best interest to leave. As for Atletico, contrary to recent reports, Joao Felix doesn't seem to be going to the red side of Madrid. The future of their team looks to be up in the air, right now.

I think the purchase of Joao Felix is solely dependent on the sale of Griezmann. If Antoine isn't sold, I think there is no money for Felix.


Which makes sense, as they somewhat play the same position
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