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futbol_bill wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:Zidane has 0 interest in Eriksen, I can tell you it's Pogba, Ndombele and even Pjanic before Eriksen. All the "new" reports are just repeating the same information, there is nothing new lol, Zidane wants Pogba and he wants nothing to do with Eriksen, that's a player the club had engaged on their own

Obviously your memory is a little short!

futbol_bill wrote:Still made up stories eh Nick!

The Demon of Carthage wrote:What a terrible loss for Madrid.

Keep on chasing Pogba.

futbol_bill wrote:Cyborg, I THINK the argument is Modric is rotational this season. Question I have is who does he rotate with Kroos or possibly Casemiro, as Kroos is the only alternative to Casemiro!

Re Pogba, before Sports jumps in, sure he is much better than Ceballos, Today!!!

The other midfield option, besides bench player Fede, is Isco. He’s likely to leave, but apparently Zidane has said there is a reserve role for him if he stays!!!

Cyborg wrote:Ndombele signs with Spurs for 60mil

From the rhetoric here, thought he was Madrid bound

Turok_TTZ wrote:eriksen needs to sign an extension or f*** off to some other team that ain't madrid.
I think Real Madrid interest is legit. the board and flo aint sharp in this instance.

What i find more amusing is the report about eriksen's agent is going to meet up with the brass just to find out interest. literal top kek.

jovic, mendy, hazard didnt have this problem. the difference being zidane approved of all 3.

I guess eriksen cant take the hint. think he would better his odds getting his agent to meet Zidane raher than the brass uptop.

better off in the dark anyways. eriksen cant improve us in any significant way and honestly dont see where he can play. we dont play with a 10 spot and even if we did hazard, isco > eriksen.

not enough quality to displace modric or kroos in cm either. and i highly doubt he would do any better as dm. Benz, casemiro > eriksen in dm.

cant see where he fits  not in a 442, 4231, 433. not even a 41212.
What the heck do flo and the board see in eriksen? Maybe Zidane can remove all doubt but from what i hear, he aint sparing him a thought at allm

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Doc wrote:

futbol_bill wrote:Still made up stories eh Nick!

I think Nick has acknowledged that we do have some interest in Eriksen but firmly believes that it is just that: an interest. Pretty sure the club has many interests in many footballers.

I wanna agree but my religion forbids me to agree with Nick.

sportsczy wrote:Pogba is not doubtful...

futbol_bill wrote:

sportsczy wrote:Pogba is not doubtful...

Noted!

Thimmy wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:eriksen needs to sign an extension or f*** off to some other team that ain't madrid.
I think Real Madrid interest is legit. the board and flo aint sharp in this instance.

What i find more amusing is the report about eriksen's agent is going to meet up with the brass just to find out interest. literal top kek.

jovic, mendy, hazard didnt have this problem. the difference being zidane approved of all 3.

I guess eriksen cant take the hint. think he would better his odds getting his agent to meet Zidane raher than the brass uptop.

better off in the dark anyways. eriksen cant improve us in any significant way and honestly dont see where he can play. we dont play with a 10 spot and even if we did hazard, isco > eriksen.

not enough quality to displace modric or kroos in cm either. and i highly doubt he would do any better as dm. Benz, casemiro > eriksen in dm.

cant see where he fits  not in a 442, 4231, 433. not even a 41212.
What the heck do flo and the board see in eriksen? Maybe Zidane can remove all doubt but from what i hear, he aint sparing him a thought at allm

I think that's an incredibly harsh assessment of Eriksen's talents. The argument that he's too similar in playing style to Kroos is valid. I also think it can sometimes be a bit frustrating to watch him when he, like Kroos, goes into safe mode and solely focuses on a tidy, safe passing game. It's the risky passes that he excels at, and I think he's at least as good as Kroos in that respect. It's a bit concerning how uncharacteristically poor he's been for Tottenham this season, but he's certainly an improvement on any of our current midfielders, as well as the vast mahority of the ones that are available to us. And despite his form, he's contributed largely to Heung Min Son having the most impressive stats in the PL since the latter hit his stride near the end of last year.

Players with his vision, positional intelligence and passing ability don't come around very often. To compare him to Isco is, quite frankly, an insult to him. The only area I can think of where Isco is better, is dribbling and ball control. He's completely two-footed, a set piece specialist, and he's comfortably better than isco in everything that revolves around passing and shooting. I would've certainly preferred De Bruyne, who's a cut above the rest, but Eriksen's definitely good enough for us. I believe the question is whether or not he fits in.  

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Turok_TTZ wrote:

Thimmy wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:eriksen needs to sign an extension or f*** off to some other team that ain't madrid.
I think Real Madrid interest is legit. the board and flo aint sharp in this instance.

What i find more amusing is the report about eriksen's agent is going to meet up with the brass just to find out interest. literal top kek.

jovic, mendy, hazard didnt have this problem. the difference being zidane approved of all 3.

I guess eriksen cant take the hint. think he would better his odds getting his agent to meet Zidane raher than the brass uptop.

better off in the dark anyways. eriksen cant improve us in any significant way and honestly dont see where he can play. we dont play with a 10 spot and even if we did hazard, isco > eriksen.

not enough quality to displace modric or kroos in cm either. and i highly doubt he would do any better as dm. Benz, casemiro > eriksen in dm.

cant see where he fits  not in a 442, 4231, 433. not even a 41212.
What the heck do flo and the board see in eriksen? Maybe Zidane can remove all doubt but from what i hear, he aint sparing him a thought at allm

I think that's an incredibly harsh assessment of Eriksen's talents. The argument that he's too similar in playing style to Kroos is valid. I also think it can sometimes be a bit frustrating to watch him when he, like Kroos, goes into safe mode and solely focuses on a tidy, safe passing game. It's the risky passes that he excels at, and I think he's at least as good as Kroos in that respect. It's a bit concerning how uncharacteristically poor he's been for Tottenham this season, but he's certainly an improvement on any of our current midfielders, as well as the vast mahority of the ones that are available to us. And despite his form, he's contributed largely to Heung Min Son having the most impressive stats in the PL since the latter hit his stride near the end of last year.

Players with his vision, positional intelligence and passing ability don't come around very often. To compare him to Isco is, quite frankly, an insult to him. The only area I can think of where Isco is better, is dribbling and ball control. He's completely two-footed, a set piece specialist, and he's comfortably better than isco in everything that revolves around passing and shooting. I would've certainly preferred De Bruyne, who's a cut above the rest, but Eriksen's definitely good enough for us. I believe the question is whether or not he fits in.  

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first off I would like to apologize I thought I posted a reply but I didn't. Blasted phone.

It's fine.

let's say everything what you say is true. if it is true, why are we so indifferent to eriksen?

can't blame everything on Pogba.

When does he ever get blamed for anything? I've criticized him a lot, but others seem to be willing to throw themselves in front of a bullet to save him, even if they clearly haven't watched how he's been playing for Man United over the past 3 friggin seasons. Then again, Those 3 years at Man United doesn't count because his individual contributions are somehow more team based than anything else


the fact that we are still in it for Pogba only shows the gap or rather the perceived difference between Pogba and Erickson where one is clearly better than the other. now whether that's true or not doesn't even matter the only truth that matters is who the club is pursuing first.

I'm not sure why Zidane is so insistent on getting Pogba. He mentioned in an interview that him an Pogba are friends on a personal level, but I like to think that there's more to it than the usual nepotism that people keep accusing him of. As for Eriksen, we've been linked to him for so many seasons now, and he hasn't expressed any desire to move until just recently. In contrast to Eden Hazard, who just had arguably the best season or even year of his career, Eriksen's coming off the back of probably his worst season since he burst onto the scene at Ajax, and the hype has died down. I don't think any of it is an indication of perceived lack of quality. If anything, he's likely not the type of midfielder that Zidane prefers. But I have no clue what Zidane's view is on this situation. My guess is as good as yours. I would assume if has to do with fitting in with Zidane's tactics.

Zidane wants Pogba and is more than happy to ignore everyone else for him.

Well, the interest is officlal, but all other details including Zidane's thoughts on the matter are mostly speculation at this point.

that suggest a couple of things. one of them being that Eriksen isn't good enough to even give Zidane pause about his relentless pursuit of Pogba. that eriksen may not fit with the tactical set-up that he is ideally looking for. or that zidane has confidence with what he currently has that he feels Eriksen isnt a big deal. reminder that we are not losing trust in Toni kroos or Isco. yes we are listening for offers about isco but zidane himself still believes in him. I don't see Eriksen displacing isco as it stands. he aint world class nor has he performances or titles to reflect your evaluation. keyword being titles. someone like Pogba on the other hand has his performances with Juventus and more importantly his world cup performances that speaks for itself. Erickson on the other hand has nothing in comparison. titles speak louder. always.

Eriksen carried his national team past the group stages in the last world cup, and he was fantastic while they were still in the tournament. France have an incomparable, absolutely star studded team. Winning the world cup is a fantastic achievement, but we both know that winning it isn't a definite indication of a single player's individual quality. "World cup winner" a nice title that the media likes to throw arbitrarily around when talking about players who've won it, but it's the result of a team effort more than anything else.

Pogba is uniquely talented. As Sports likes to point out, he's world class in that regard (talent), but his attitude and inconsistency for Man United should make you question his effectiveness over the course of a season. Talent means very little when it's not being put on display often enough to make a sustainable difference. His track record against big teams is outright depressing, as well. He can be a difference maker, but he has not shown that he can be one often enough to warrant the hype that's usually re-directed to his world cup achievement. I recommend watching him play for Man United next season, if he sticks around. Then again, I'm sure the blame for his mostly underwhelming performances over the course of a full season will be directed at his lack of happiness, which is the club's fault, as always.

harsh? I'm not harsh at all. reality is harsh. at the end of the day it's Zidane's call.
as it stands currently his interest in Erickson is zero. I hear he even likes Van de beek more than eriksen.
would you be so daring as to questions zidane judgment? I trust Zidane a great deal. if he can ignore eriksen so easily, he must have a very good reason to do so.

I don't get the impression that he's interested in Eriksen, either. I doubt Eriksen's coming to Madrid. Ideally, I'd prefer if we'd gone after a younger midfielder than Eriksen (27) and Pogba (26) now that we're actually doing this rebuild, but it is what it is. I'm merely pointing out that I find your criticism of Eriksen's quality quite puzzling based on how he's performed for humble Tottenham since he arrived there from Ajax. He's consistently been among the most effective midfielders in the league, and unlike with Pogba, I don't think his stats do him justice.

Generally speaking, I think people should be more critical of the things they read in the media. Contrary to popular belief, we, fans, don't have a clue what Zidane is thinking, and nor do the vast majority of journalists that write whatever the hell they want to create hype, or stage a controversial scenario. Again, I don't think Zidane possibly seeing Pogba as a better fit for his vision of our starting XI means anything, in regard to Eriksen's quality. As for reality check - watch Pogba over the course of a full league season and tell me that he's worthy of his physical and technical talent. It's wasted on him. His stats are more inflated than a hot air balloon.

@Sportsczy

like is too vague like could be like 51%
sorry to put you on the spot but be a little bit more specific. 75%, 66%.…. how confident are you that Pogba will choose us?
as I see it currently I do not believe he is joining us all things considered. too many variables getting in the way. for me he has a 33% chance of coming here.