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Post by Thimmy Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:21 pm

Firenze wrote:
Nishankly wrote:Great signing for United but imho they still need a striker to make all of this fruitful. Lukayku should have stayed.


honestly what's even out there when it comes to strikers?


Erling Braut Haaland has scored more league goals than Manchester United in 2020 (5-4). Haaland has played 57 minutes. United have played 360.
— Richard Jolly (@RichJolly) January 24, 2020

You sold 31-year old, Fellaini for half of Haaland’s buyout clause. I like to think that Haaland turned Man United down, rather than United being cheap.

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Post by Firenze Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:35 pm

I'm sure I read that when you factored in wages, agent fees and bonuses Haaland's bargain price actually came to like 60+ million

big money for a kid that may not have any resell value and isnt already an established forward

Dortmund's the right move for his career anyway, so it would be smart *if* he did reject us

I don't think we'll end up signing a forward tbh
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:35 pm

55 millions upfront
+1 million everytime he starts up to 25 mil
+5 millions if United make the CL

Yanited are dumb as rock. Everytime he plays it's a million for sporting rofl
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Post by Firenze Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:49 pm

you made that up, no way is that true
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Post by danyjr Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:52 pm



Looks meh at best.

Another Woodward masterclass.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:53 pm

Here is the tweet front the times, you hate to see stupidity like this...or you love it rofl dumbass club. The only thing I misread is every 5 starts

€1 million for every five starts he makes (up to 25) & €5 million if Utd qualify once for the CL in the next 5 years —  the full numbers and add-ons in Bruno Fernandes' move to #MUFC here (w/@_pauljoyce):

https://t.co/VtD0GTzfZ1

80+ mil for this jabrony rofl
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Post by Myesyats Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:59 pm

As much as I want to believe this, it's not likely to be true
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Post by Firenze Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:00 pm

sounds reasonable *shrug* 5m euros for 25 starts, fine with it. CL qualification bonus? the norm. So we'll end up paying 55M pounds for him after a season. The other bonuses are for things like winning the balon, CL I think. Unlikely.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:13 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Here is the tweet front the times, you hate to see stupidity like this...or you love it rofl dumbass club. The only thing I misread is every 5 starts

€1 million for every five starts he makes (up to 25) & €5 million if Utd qualify once for the CL in the next 5 years —  the full numbers and add-ons in Bruno Fernandes' move to #MUFC here (w/@_pauljoyce):

https://t.co/VtD0GTzfZ1

80+ mil for this jabrony rofl

That means they get 1 million per 5 starts, up to 5 million (25 starts)

Nothing like you wrote "a million per start up to 25m".

wouldn't talk of "stupidity" in a post like that tbh
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Post by Unique Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:07 pm

SSN saying its £67mil. chicken feed for a club that likes to feed chickens. :coffee:
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Post by Firenze Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:11 pm

Big fan of the club since he grew up watching CR7 for us. Proud

can't wait for him to set the league alight

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Post by Firenze Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:14 pm

Bruno Fernandes has agreed a four-and-a-half year contract with the option of an extra year. He will earn around £70,000 per-week plus bonuses. #mufc [Guardian]

sensible money. Lad wanted us the most. Been angling for a move here for the last 12 months.
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Post by Arquitecto Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:18 pm

How tf did this Udinese & Samp flop come out to be paid this much of a price for his signature Laughing

Genuinely curious.
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Post by Unique Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:19 pm

Firenze wrote:Big fan of the club since he grew up watching CR7 for us. Proud

can't wait for him to set the league alight

the man wanted to move to liverpool last summer ffs. rofl rofl rofl
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Post by Casciavit Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:09 am

Unreal call by me. Shame he went to United. The chances of him being ruined there are like 90%.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:17 am

Arquitecto wrote:How tf did this Udinese & Samp flop come out to be paid this much of a price for his signature Laughing

Genuinely curious.


Easy answer, 25 goals per season from midfield
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Post by Unique Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:54 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:How tf did this Udinese & Samp flop come out to be paid this much of a price for his signature Laughing

Genuinely curious.


Easy answer, 25 goals per season from midfield
yeah like he will get 25 goals per season in the brexit lge Laughing
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Post by farfan Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:05 am

Arquitecto wrote:How tf did this Udinese & Samp flop come out to be paid this much of a price for his signature Laughing

Genuinely curious.


Genuine question, why are you and other Serie A followers calling him a flop? is it just for the sake of clowning Man U/ EPL? Laughing He was a starter in his first season at age 19, which is impressive considering how conservative Italian coaches are. He seems to have been an integral part of every team he played for.

There is really nothing unusual about his career trajectory. hmm

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Post by rincon Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:21 am

farfan wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:How tf did this Udinese & Samp flop come out to be paid this much of a price for his signature Laughing

Genuinely curious.


Genuine question, why are you and other Serie A followers calling him a flop? is it just for the sake of clowning Man U/ EPL? Laughing He was a starter in his first season at age 19, which is impressive considering how conservative Italian coaches are. He seems to have been an integral part of every team he played for.  

There is really nothing unusual about his career trajectory. hmm


That's just looking at wikipedia. "Flop" is too much, but there is everything unusual about his trajectory.

This is a player that was thoroughly uninteresting. No one would have looked at Giampaolo's Sampdoria and told you that Bruno would have been a 70m player. It's crazy to suggest that he looked like having that trajectory in 2016.

This is how unusual his trajectory is: as a 22yo he left Samp for 8m or so, there were 3 other Samp young players that left for more money than Bruno in the same window. He was NOT rated as a super talent back then, not even close, he was moved for cheap after 1 season at Samp.

Skriniar, Schick and Muriel all left for much more money in the first season. A season before another 4 players left Samp for money, a season after another 3 players did. Torreira, his fellow midfielder, left with hype for 3 times the money.

We saw him for 3 years and no one in Serie A had a "future top player" by the end of it.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Jan 31, 2020 9:32 am

rincon wrote:
farfan wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:How tf did this Udinese & Samp flop come out to be paid this much of a price for his signature Laughing

Genuinely curious.


Genuine question, why are you and other Serie A followers calling him a flop? is it just for the sake of clowning Man U/ EPL? Laughing He was a starter in his first season at age 19, which is impressive considering how conservative Italian coaches are. He seems to have been an integral part of every team he played for.  

There is really nothing unusual about his career trajectory. hmm


That's just looking at wikipedia. "Flop" is too much, but there is everything unusual about his trajectory.

This is a player that was thoroughly uninteresting. No one would have looked at Giampaolo's Sampdoria and told you that Bruno would have been a 70m player. It's crazy to suggest that he looked like having that trajectory in 2016.

This is how unusual his trajectory is: as a 22yo he left Samp for 8m or so, there were 3 other Samp young players that left for more money than Bruno in the same window. He was NOT rated as a super talent back then, not even close, he was moved for cheap after 1 season at Samp.

Skriniar, Schick and Muriel all left for much more money in the first season. A season before another 4 players left Samp for money, a season after another 3 players did. Torreira, his fellow midfielder, left with hype for 3 times the money.

We saw him for 3 years and no one in Serie A had a "future top player" by the end of it.


Giampaolo's a Serie A flop himself so why would we trust him to know a good player if he sees one
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Post by farfan Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:05 pm

rincon wrote:
farfan wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:How tf did this Udinese & Samp flop come out to be paid this much of a price for his signature Laughing

Genuinely curious.


Genuine question, why are you and other Serie A followers calling him a flop? is it just for the sake of clowning Man U/ EPL? Laughing He was a starter in his first season at age 19, which is impressive considering how conservative Italian coaches are. He seems to have been an integral part of every team he played for.  

There is really nothing unusual about his career trajectory. hmm


That's just looking at wikipedia. "Flop" is too much, but there is everything unusual about his trajectory.

This is a player that was thoroughly uninteresting. No one would have looked at Giampaolo's Sampdoria and told you that Bruno would have been a 70m player. It's crazy to suggest that he looked like having that trajectory in 2016.

This is how unusual his trajectory is: as a 22yo he left Samp for 8m or so, there were 3 other Samp young players that left for more money than Bruno in the same window. He was NOT rated as a super talent back then, not even close, he was moved for cheap after 1 season at Samp.

Skriniar, Schick and Muriel all left for much more money in the first season. A season before another 4 players left Samp for money, a season after another 3 players did. Torreira, his fellow midfielder, left with hype for 3 times the money.

We saw him for 3 years and no one in Serie A had a "future top player" by the end of it.


Is every player supposed to show world-class talent in their first 3 seasons of professional football? there is a long list of elite footballers who spent the first few years of their careers playing in lower divisions or sitting on the bench. At his age, Aubameyang wasn't even deemed worthy of being loaned to another Serie A team. Laughing
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Post by rincon Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:49 pm

That wasnt the conversation though. Its is absolutely unusual for a player that isn't rated highly to be sold for 80m 3 years later.

Not saying he cant be good now, just saying that denying that it's an unusual trajectory is strange.
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Post by Arquitecto Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:33 pm

farfan wrote:
Arquitecto wrote:How tf did this Udinese & Samp flop come out to be paid this much of a price for his signature Laughing

Genuinely curious.


Genuine question, why are you and other Serie A followers calling him a flop? is it just for the sake of clowning Man U/ EPL? Laughing He was a starter in his first season at age 19, which is impressive considering how conservative Italian coaches are. He seems to have been an integral part of every team he played for.  

There is really nothing unusual about his career trajectory. hmm



Me following Serie A does not automatically equate to me having an agenda towards Premier League, you know, to which has a team I fully support, let alone supporting a league itself.

The answer is simple. From Novara to Udinese to Sampdoria, he simply was not very good.

At all. Just an average player.

Hans answered it for me anyway.
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Post by BarcaLearning Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:05 pm

At least we still have Man U who is always worst than our board at transfer LOL
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Post by farfan Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:25 pm

rincon wrote: Its is absolutely unusual for a player that isn't rated highly to be sold for 80m 3 years later.



But it's not though Laughing A good % of players who end up joining top clubs at age 24/25 had slow starts to their careers. Who rated Nicolas Pépé 3 years ago? Or Ferland Mendy? the examples are endless. We wouldn't even be having this conversation had he played at Setubal and Boavista instead of Udinese and Sampdoria.

You guys are acting as if he was this perennial jobber that is commanding top money all of a sudden. The kid was a developing U-21 talent in Italy and he simply reached his potential at Sporting.
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Post by Firenze Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:27 pm

BarcaLearning wrote:At least we still have Man U who is always worst than our board at transfer LOL


Fernandes is 1000x the player Dembele, ARFUUUUUR, De Numpty etc are lol

you're still king of the numpty transfers, no doubt. 100M on Grease rofl
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