Brexit: Should the UK stay or go?

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Because you have made commitments for future expenses that you should honor

so its a bit like ordering 50 top end cars. paying for them but you never get them.

UK approved sale of British nerve gas components to Assad, but sale never actually went through because of EU sanctions.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-uk-government-let-british-company-export-nerve-gas-chemicals-to-syria-8793642.html

Can't make this up. EU actually prevented the UK from being an accessory to the horrible murder of civilians.

So our government is backing America fully in all things Syria.

Murica oppose the Assad regime, Russia support the Assad regime. British government allow the sale of the chemical weapons to the Assad regime, and come out mostly in support of Trump when trump attacks the chemical plant allegedly used by the Assad regime.



Politics

This is why I struggle to take voting seriously, when everything is a multidimensional chaotic mess.



Good to know when I finally become a somewhat legal arms dealer that my Brexited Government won't really mind if I make some cash on the side selling to nutjobs.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:UK approved sale of British nerve gas to Assad, but sale never actually went through because of EU sanctions.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-uk-government-let-british-company-export-nerve-gas-chemicals-to-syria-8793642.html

Can't make this up. EU actually prevented the UK from being an accessory to the horrible murder of civilians.

The Government was accused of “breathtaking laxity” in its arms controls last night after it emerged that officials authorised the export to Syria of two chemicals capable of being used to make a nerve agent such as sarin a year ago.


so it was not nerve gas but chemicals capable of making nerve gas. so its a bit like selling steel and aluminium that can be used to make bombs and guns.

not even in the slightest, use your head and stop trying to spin things.

Amended, I have now changed it to "nerve gas components", doesn't make it any less shocking though...

Firenze wrote:not even in the slightest, use your head and stop trying to spin things.

I'm not spinning anything. the report says components that can make nerve gas. components can be made into lots of things like I said. steel and aluminium are components that can make guns and bombs but is the same as selling guns and bombs ? no I don't think so.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Amended, I have now changed it to "nerve gas components", doesn't make it any less shocking though...

one of the components of a hydrogen bomb is water. lets watch who gets water from now on because it could be used to make a hydrogen bomb.

Once again you are missing  the point entirely... If there is a risk that component A would be used to make nerve gas bombs, don't you think the UK should not approve that transaction?

Its nothing new, UK thrives on the arm exports in the Middle East. This has been brought up a number of times on GL, How are people surprised.

Britain is always accused of being directly responsible for the deaths caused by Saudi's in Yemen. They've exported 1000m of Arms while importing 900m of Oil.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Once again you are missing  the point entirely... If there is a risk that component A would be used to make nerve gas bombs, don't you think the UK should not approve that transaction?

well it depends on if the component can only be used to make nerve gas. fertilizer and bleach can be used to make bombs so maybe the world should stop selling bleach and fertilizer.

That picture lmaooo

Need to find that "problem with teens" article

should be hilarious

A majority of Britons oppose a unilateral guarantee for EU citizens living in the UK to be able to remain in the country after Brexit, a Sky Data poll suggests.





It comes as Labour said they would give such a guarantee on their first day in office were they win to the General Election on 8 June.

Some 55% oppose such a deal; 44% say that they should only get it if UK citizens in other EU countries get the same guarantee, as the Conservatives have argued; while 11% do not think EU citizens should be given such a guarantee even then.

Just under a third (29%) said they backed a unilateral guarantee, while 16% were unsure.
http://news.sky.com/story/britons-oppose-brexit-guarantee-for-eu-citizens-in-uk-sky-data-poll-10850007

This whole nonsense is sure going to affect the Premier League too, won't it? Oh well.

Macron' impending presidency is horrible news for Brexit negotiations for UK.

He's in love with EU more than Merkel and Cameron ever were. Good luck ! lol.

Saw Nigel today and he was losing his mind over it....poor chap !

Le Pen may end up getting crushed almost as much as her father was. I don't think Fillon and Melencon voters fancy her. Both candidates have asked their voters to back Macron as well. But I wouldn't be surprised if she won still. Nothing can surprise me anymore after Trump.

"If the French are with you, you're probably right. If they're against you, you're probably wrong" - Quote from someone I can't remember.

Let's see what decision the French people make.

It's basically the fate of the EU resting on this election. If Le Pen wins, that's the end of the EU, Germany will probably follow suit. If Macron wins, the UK will suffer Brexit and will be hung out to dry.

Why is this not happening

Last I heard this was still happening, much to everyone's dismay, did anything change?

It's still happening. They are negotiations over the terms of the separation.

Isn't the official exit only happening sometime next year. I thought that was common knowledge all along

It's a slow process.

London loses EU agencies to Paris and Amsterdam in Brexit relocation

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/20/london-loses-european-medicines-agency-amsterdam-brexit-relocation?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_b-gdnnews#link_time=1511205516

Low key one of the potential essay questions (I have a choice from 3) is: "Do you agree with the decision of the United Kingdom to exit from the European Union? Provide evidence to support your case"

You guys think this is pretty straightforward? Is there ample evidence thus far to be able to convincingly argue one way or the other (I'd argue I don't agree with it, tbh). I'm asking you guys mostly because you guys are more aware, being citizens, of the potential consequences of Brexit than I--although I did follow it while it was going on.