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Post by Art Morte Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:25 pm

Egypt getting embarrassed by Russia. Russia are shite. It's been a few games now. How come are African teams so lacklustre? You'd think the conditions for football would be somewhat similar in South America and Africa. Yet it looks like Africa is on a serious downward curve here.

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Post by BusterLfc Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:41 pm

Don't forget asian team saudi arabia lost 5-0 to russia. Laughing both continents are bad but i would say asia is worse
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Post by zigra Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:43 pm

Senegal were quite good.
Egypt only have Salah so I don't know why people would expect them to do great. Maybe Russia is not actually that bad hmm
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Post by S Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:44 pm

@BusterLfc wrote:Don't forget asian team saudi arabia lost 5-0 to russia. Laughing both continents are bad but i would say asia is worse


Asia 6 points out of a possible 15

Africa 3 points out of a possible 18(assuming Egypt lose this)

Stats dont lie :coffee:
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Post by El Gunner Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:46 pm

Like I said African football is at a new low. Lots of controversy across the countries in recent years for minute or major reasons. Lack of taking football seriously over here, not enough support by the government and communities to enhance the quality of the players grassroots and moving up.
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Post by BusterLfc Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:49 pm

@S wrote:
@BusterLfc wrote:Don't forget asian team saudi arabia lost 5-0 to russia. Laughing both continents are bad but i would say asia is worse


Asia 6 points out of a possible 15

Africa 3 points out of a possible 18(assuming Egypt lose this)

Stats dont lie :coffee:

Lets wait for the group stages to finish though, we cant judge by watching 1 round, lets not forget carlos sanchez gifted japan the win and iran won via 90th OG despite having 0 shots in the second half Laughing at least africa has some great players and talent and i really liked senegal, only good player from asia i can think of is son Laughing
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Post by Nishankly Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:10 pm

@BusterLfc wrote:Don't forget asian team saudi arabia lost 5-0 to russia. Laughing both continents are bad but i would say asia is worse


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Post by Art Morte Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:11 pm

@zigra wrote:Senegal were quite good.
Egypt only have Salah so I don't know why people would expect them to do great. Maybe Russia is not actually that bad hmm


Senegal were good by accident. A deflected goal and then the luckiest break-through you'll ever see.

You look at the squads of these African teams, the clubs their key players play for, and you'd expect something more... Yet they keep falling short. It's looking like a low-point for them right now.
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Post by Luca Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:16 pm

A low point?

When exactly were African nations known to be powerhouses in the World Cup?

2014:
Cameroon 0 points
Ivory Coast 3 points (3rd in group)
Nigeria 4 points (2nd in group)
Ghana 1 point
Algeria 4 points (2nd in group)

Are we that far off?

Seems like these nations are being overrated heavily because they have a couple easily recognizable players

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Post by rincon Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:18 pm

Only Africa we need to watch this summer tbh

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Post by Nishankly Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:22 pm

Im not sure its a low point, They always have just one team usually qualifying for the round of 16. Senegal seems to be that one.
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Post by El Gunner Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:22 pm

@Luca wrote:A low point?

When exactly were African nations known to be powerhouses in the World Cup?

2014:
Cameroon 0 points
Ivory Coast 3 points (3rd in group)
Nigeria 4 points (2nd in group)
Ghana 1 point
Algeria 4 points (2nd in group)

Are we that far off?

Seems like these nations are being overrated heavily because they have a couple easily recognizable players


Relative to their own standards. No one said they were ever powerhouses.
Like I said it's the attitude around football more than anything else across the continent at this point.
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Post by El Gunner Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:23 pm

Oh my god, one would think that someone who lives in the continent knows a little bit more with what's going on.
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Post by S Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:23 pm

@El Gunner wrote:
@Luca wrote:A low point?

When exactly were African nations known to be powerhouses in the World Cup?

2014:
Cameroon 0 points
Ivory Coast 3 points (3rd in group)
Nigeria 4 points (2nd in group)
Ghana 1 point
Algeria 4 points (2nd in group)

Are we that far off?

Seems like these nations are being overrated heavily because they have a couple easily recognizable players


Relative to their own standards. No one said they were ever powerhouses.
Like I said it's the attitude around football more than anything else across the continent at this point.


What do you mean ? They want to venture into other sports now ?
I always thought Africa was football mad
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Post by Art Morte Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:24 pm

@Luca wrote:A low point?

When exactly were African nations known to be powerhouses in the World Cup?

2014:
Cameroon 0 points
Ivory Coast 3 points (3rd in group)
Nigeria 4 points (2nd in group)
Ghana 1 point
Algeria 4 points (2nd in group)

Are we that far off?

Seems like these nations are being overrated heavily because they have a couple easily recognizable players


That was quite decent. Two teams advanced. Right now it's in the balance whether one (Senegal) will advance from an easy group.
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Post by Luca Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:27 pm

Fair point. I guess we’ll see.

Can’t say I expected Nigeria to do much against Croatia. Morocco surely should’ve at least drew with Iran. Egypt almost drew Uruguay too but that’s just how it goes.

Senegal is the best of the lot to me, not just for the result but more of a complete team

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Post by BusterLfc Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:30 pm

@Art Morte wrote:
@zigra wrote:Senegal were quite good.
Egypt only have Salah so I don't know why people would expect them to do great. Maybe Russia is not actually that bad hmm


Senegal were good by accident. A deflected goal and then the luckiest break-through you'll ever see.

You look at the squads of these African teams, the clubs their key players play for, and you'd expect something more... Yet they keep falling short. It's looking like a low-point for them right now.


Senegal were really good imo, they were compact and well organized, their midfield and defence Koulibaly-Sane bossed it, they are a physical side full of tanks, Poland were clueless against them, and Senegal has some pace up front though they were lacking a final ball today I think they will only improve offensively. And you can always hope for a moment of brilliance from Mane up front. Almost all Senegal players are from PL, Serie A and Bundesliga, they are my favourites from all african&asian teams
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Post by rincon Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:33 pm

Back in 98/02 African teams were looking good. There were always legit teams that could make good runs into the knockouts. Now it really looks like the lowest point since then. We have to wait and see how it evolves but it looks like the lowest point tally since then.
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Post by BusterLfc Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:37 pm

Since the 80s Africa always had exactly 1 team qualifying from the group stages, only in 2014 2 teams qualified. This year its probably gonna be only Senegal so Africa is where it has always been - 1 team going through
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Post by zigra Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:37 pm

@Art Morte wrote:
@zigra wrote:Senegal were quite good.
Egypt only have Salah so I don't know why people would expect them to do great. Maybe Russia is not actually that bad hmm


Senegal were good by accident. A deflected goal and then the luckiest break-through you'll ever see.

You look at the squads of these African teams, the clubs their key players play for, and you'd expect something more... Yet they keep falling short. It's looking like a low-point for them right now.


No, I thought they actually played well. Not because of the 2 lucky goals.
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Post by Firenze Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:59 pm

@rincon wrote:Only Africa we need to watch this summer tbh



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Post by Firenze Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:05 pm

whatever happened to Ivory Coast? had some elite talent throughout the years, still do kinda (Bailly)
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:08 pm

If anything else, this WC has told us is everyone is inferior to Gareth Southgate's red and white army imo.

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Post by GRude Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:15 pm

I only count the black teams as African tbh.
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Post by Freeza Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:16 pm

@GRude wrote:I only count the black teams as African tbh.


This is such a Unique alt
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