Re: Official: Bernd Leno is a Gunner

by urbaNRoots Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:19 pm

El Gunner wrote:Ozil is pronounce U-zil

Nope.

Or in German you extend the Ö for a little longer.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:26 pm

It's O ZIL you degenerate foreigners imo.

English language is the only that counts, whatever we deem it to be is what it is. hmm

by El Gunner Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:15 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:
El Gunner wrote:Ozil is pronounce U-zil

Nope.

Or in German you extend the Ö for a little longer.

That's what I meant with the first syllable being pronounced 'u' like 'uh' not the letter pronunciation of u.
I didn't know the 'zil' was pronounced as 'zeel' though.

by Hapless_Hans Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:35 pm

Kick wrote:
All of the Germany - Mexico game the commentator I was listening to kept saying Kimmich (like the Ch in Chocolate) as opposed to Kimmick (how is should sound).

No.
It's neither Kimmitch nor Kimmick.

"ch" poses problems for people trying to learn German. [..] To make things worse for English speakers, the resulting sound has, in the most common cases, no English equivalent.

https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/ujf/blog/German_ch.html

by Kick Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:10 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Kick wrote:
All of the Germany - Mexico game the commentator I was listening to kept saying Kimmich (like the Ch in Chocolate) as opposed to Kimmick (how is should sound).

No.
It's neither Kimmitch nor Kimmick.

"ch" poses problems for people trying to learn German. [..] To make things worse for English speakers, the resulting sound has, in the most common cases, no English equivalent.
https://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/ujf/blog/German_ch.html

Really? I've been mislead then.

So, how would you pronounce it?

by Hapless_Hans Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:23 am

Like the first examples in that article

Kimm-ich

The voiceless palatal fricative, or 'Ich-Laut'.

see and hear also the example here, under 'German'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_palatal_fricative#Palatal

I can't think of an example of that sound used in English