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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:17 pm

First of all, I would like to say that I am sorry for posting random topics on the main section and not on any banter section (if there is one).

So on with the topics....
Laurent Koscielny can:
*distribute the ball
*he is quite strong for his size
*reads the game well
*Never seen him run out of steam
*and breaks up plays faster than a NFL ref

So that being said, do you all think he could be deployed as the Defencive Mid?
I for one think he is too intelligent of a player to be left to warm the bench. And with vermaelen , and possibly one of Cahill or Samba coming in, I cannot see wenger using him as the starting CB.

So what do you guys think?
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Post by Sri Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:24 pm

No.. Not with Frimpong and Coquelin and Bartley knocking that door.. We'll rotate the CBs.. Koss is good, but a bit raw.. He'll improve into a better CB in a couple of seasons..

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Post by REWB Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:32 pm

kos is sooooooooooooooooo underrated god i feel sorry for him, soo much quality. he reads the game better then anyone. just a few mistaks has left him with a bad name. oh and the stupid english media.
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:34 pm

Bartley plays as CB, without any of the asset that Kos offers. As for Frimpong, how can you trust him to play that role over Kos, when he does not even have actual experience in top flight? Kos can be turned into a Cambiasso type of DM imo
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Post by Sri Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:35 pm

He is a good player.. I'm not saying he isn't not.. I'd prefer seeing his name in the team sheet over any other defender (except Vermalen) in our squad.. My only point is, his rise has been meteoric from the underwaters of 2nd division french football to us in such a short time.. I just feel he has room to improve.. And some time at the top to really establish himself..

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Post by Sri Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:37 pm

Frimpong would have been in the first team last year over Denilson if not for his injury.. And what I have seen from pre season, he is definitely a beast.. The big problem is the experience..

Bartley - I really don't know whats going to happen with him.. I rate him, but he needs exposure.. A good season long loan spell to a PL club would do him well.. I agree that he is a CB who got played in the DM a bit on his last loan..

But I am really not sold on Kos as a DM.. Something just seems missing when I put him as a DM.. Can't place my finger on it :/

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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:41 pm

It woudl have been Ideal if Thomas Vermaelen was 6'3", then him playing alongside of Kos woudl really balance the defence.
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Post by Sri Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:43 pm

Lol.. Yeah..

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Post by Lord Awesome Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:05 pm

I always rated him.

I also think he's underrated.
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Post by Sushi Master Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:28 pm

I doubt it. He'd be able to pull it off, but we need him at CB. He's probably the best game-reader we have, and his pace is pretty awesome for his size. Fastest CB we have. All he needs to improve is his air game which is strangely lacking.
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:36 pm

If we are to pair Koscielny with Vermalaen, One of them needs to be less adventurous. Both of them are ball playing CBs, and i can see us getting roasted on the counter.
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Post by EL Patron Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:36 pm

needs to stop being easily intimidated and cut out the mistakes
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Post by Sushi Master Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:45 pm

gunnerlistick wrote:needs to stop being easily intimidated and cut out the mistakes
He just came from Ligue 1. Cut him some slack. He improved a lot as time passed.
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:52 pm

gunnerlistick wrote:needs to stop being easily intimidated and cut out the mistakes
one of the very few list of CBs that have successfully marked messi without fouling him. If that does not speak volumes about his cool-calmness, then id ont know what else does.
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Post by Sushi Master Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:55 pm

That calmness is good for flashy technical players who dribble 5 times a second, but isn't as good for the aggressive, cannonball type guys we find the PL. It's why he's more suited to a slower, tactical game.

That can be improved, though. He actually gave up a few penalties for being overly aggressive, just needs to learn to time his tackles.
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:04 pm

@Sushi Master wrote:That calmness is good for flashy technical players who dribble 5 times a second, but isn't as good for the aggressive, cannonball type guys we find the PL. It's why he's more suited to a slower, tactical game.

That can be improved, though. He actually gave up a few penalties for being overly aggressive, just needs to learn to time his tackles.

That is just it tho, If we were to get a brawney CB like the Chris Samba type for the Pl matches, you coudl have Kos guarding the 2 CBs while the wingbacks bomb forward. Almost ends up becoming 3-4-3, from a 4-3-3
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Post by ArsenalWenger Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:19 pm

@Sushi Master wrote:I doubt it. He'd be able to pull it off, but we need him at CB. He's probably the best game-reader we have, and his pace is pretty awesome for his size. Fastest CB we have. All he needs to improve is his air game which is strangely lacking.

This ^^

Pretty much summarised what I wanted to say, needs to become a bit stronger that's all and to be consistently playing with Vermaelen. He's right footed isn't he? Because if Verm is left footed, he'll be playing where Kos was last season and maybe moving on to his right foot will make him even more composed this season. Dunno if it would make a great difference but it's just a thought. He could act more as a sweeper/cover with Verm acting as a stopper as well possibly.

But in general, although he might be good there, I would rather not risk it and would prefer of he stays at CB because he has a lot of potential.
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Post by lenear1030 Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:48 pm

@Sushi Master wrote:
gunnerlistick wrote:needs to stop being easily intimidated and cut out the mistakes
He just came from Ligue 1. Cut him some slack. He improved a lot as time passed.



i thought it was ligue 2....
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Post by SUPERCARTTS Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:09 pm

I can see why you suggested he be considered as a DM. But I feel Arsenal have enough money to invest in a bonafide DM who has played their all his career. Initially, I wasn't sure about Kos; I found him to be rash and slightly light. But since that time, he has strengthened up and do indeed, read the game very well. This isn't sour grapes- but when ever we conceded from open play, I noticed Clichy was the one at fault. #justsaying
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Post by Jay29 Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:25 pm

@lenear1030 wrote:
@Sushi Master wrote:
gunnerlistick wrote:needs to stop being easily intimidated and cut out the mistakes
He just came from Ligue 1. Cut him some slack. He improved a lot as time passed.



i thought it was ligue 2....

He moved from Tours in Ligue 2 to Lorient in Ligue 1, and then moved to us the season after.

So he spent one year in top flight football before moving to us.

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Post by EL Patron Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:30 pm

GoonerJay29 wrote:
@lenear1030 wrote:
@Sushi Master wrote:
gunnerlistick wrote:needs to stop being easily intimidated and cut out the mistakes
He just came from Ligue 1. Cut him some slack. He improved a lot as time passed.



i thought it was ligue 2....

He moved from Tours in Ligue 2 to Lorient in Ligue 1, and then moved to us the season after.

So he spent one year in top flight football before moving to us.

so ??....grow a pair Laurent Laughing , i like him if he cuts out the mistakes then we will have a world class centre half in our hands
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Post by SamuelJayC Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:41 pm

I hate the idea of cbs being played in dm. It keeps being brought up and its worth a thought, yes, but it won't happen.

I remember when people said this about Kolo Toure playing in DM and Wenger ruled it out saying something like cbs dont have the energy to play this role.
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Post by Ali Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:11 pm

sagna is great at tackling, in the air, and at marking, why dont we put him in DM?

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Post by Wilson37 Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:25 pm

About cb becoming dm.. I think Song is one ??
Also think that we cant play both Vermaelen and Kos at the same time... So its almost sure that he is going to be a second option...
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Post by EL Patron Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:32 pm

@Wilson37 wrote:About cb becoming dm.. I think Song is one ??
Also think that we cant play both Vermaelen and Kos at the same time... So its almost sure that he is going to be a second option...

Even Song struggles with the demand of playing in midfield
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