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Post by free_cat Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:30 am



After seeing this video of Luis Suarez at Liverpool, I think that he was the right signing instead of Alexis Sanchez or Kun Aguero. And consider his price!

Look at how well he driblles and finishes in tight spaces! That's the ability Barça players need, and he is able to drible the entire Man U defence in 4 m2. And he does it again and again!

Plus, although he hasn't scored many goals with Liverpool, we know that his finishing is great. You can't be wastefull scoring 40 goals a season, even if it's with Ajax.

A pity. Let's hope Alexis Sanchez turns out to be as good as him, or better if possible.
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Post by guest7 Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:36 am

You gotta love the passion he has.

And, inb4LionelMessisaysheisadivingpieceofshit
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Post by messixaviesta Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:55 am

cat, that's similar to what mole told me. I would like to know the opinions of other Barcelona fans on this.

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Post by BarcaKizz Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:25 am

@messixaviesta wrote:cat, that's similar to what mole told me. I would like to know the opinions of other Barcelona fans on this.

Completely agree, its unfortunate we never signed him before when we were after him. Always liked him a lot. He would be ideal right now, but it wouldn't have been possible. Last Summer was the time to strike, or the year before. However, the Ibra deal screwed us with cash a bit... oh and Keirrison, Chyg, yadayada.

He brings some entertainment to a team I always found incredibly dull.
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Post by free_cat Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:11 am

I didn't know Suarez scored 2 yesterday. Good for him.
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Post by harhar11 Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:26 am

Luis suarez, even though he is a cheater Evil or Very Mad , is pure class. I also like that he said that he dreams of playing for barca just a few days ago..

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:22 pm

Agreed, Luis would have been a great signing. But at the time, when it looked like Jeffren and Bojan were going to play a regular amount of minutes, it didn't make a lot of sense to go for him.
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:03 pm

He would of filled the diving quota just fine :coffee:

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:04 pm

I said this when Ibra was going out, that we should have gone for Suarez but imo Sanchez will fit Barca than any player out there he ticks all the boxes imo.
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Post by messixaviesta Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:15 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:He would of filled the diving quota just fine :coffee:

Do you mean you agree with Barca haters that we maintain a quota of divers?

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Post by Ganso Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:18 pm

@messixaviesta wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:He would of filled the diving quota just fine :coffee:

Do you mean you agree with Barca haters that we maintain a quota of divers?
how exactly is one supposed to disagree?.....
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:36 pm

@messixaviesta wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:He would of filled the diving quota just fine :coffee:

Do you mean you agree with Barca haters that we maintain a quota of divers?
Let's not kid ourselves, we did do our fair share of diving/injury feigning, mostly in the last 4 clasico's.

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Post by Pedram Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:43 pm

He's not a diver, he is just so soft.
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:44 pm

El Pipita wrote:He's not a diver, he is just so soft.
Trust me, he's a diver, as in he takes out his own legs often and rolls around and then bitches to the ref about it.
I believe he grew up in poverty too, I don't see why he would be soft.

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Post by Pedram Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:02 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
El Pipita wrote:He's not a diver, he is just so soft.
Trust me, he's a diver, as in he takes out his own legs often and rolls around and then bitches to the ref about it.
I believe he grew up in poverty too, I don't see why he would be soft.

Living in poverty has nothing to do with being soft. he has played a lot of years in Netherlands league where most of players are soft. they easily get injured, that's why they prefer to dive so they can protect themselves.
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:09 pm

El Pipita wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:
El Pipita wrote:He's not a diver, he is just so soft.
Trust me, he's a diver, as in he takes out his own legs often and rolls around and then bitches to the ref about it.
I believe he grew up in poverty too, I don't see why he would be soft.

Living in poverty has nothing to do with being soft. he has played a lot of years in Netherlands league where most of players are soft. they easily get injured, that's why they prefer to dive so they can protect themselves.
Yes but if you grow up having it tough it generally makes you a stronger person

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Post by messixaviesta Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:37 pm

@Ganso wrote:
how exactly is one supposed to disagree?.....

Sure don't disagree but keep two points in mind. One is that every single team almost without exception has it's fair share of divers. Secondly saying our players dive is one thing but saying we maintain a quota is talking about something no one knows about since none of us actually know what happens behind the scenes.

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Post by messixaviesta Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:42 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
Let's not kid ourselves, we did do our fair share of diving/injury feigning, mostly in the last 4 clasico's.

See the reply I gave to ganso. I don't want to talk about the classicos again because it's been done to death and any discussion is bound to become very unpleasant and not lead to anything constructive. However if there is any unwanted comment, especially from any visitor to our forum, then one may be compelled to reply to it.

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Post by free_cat Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:39 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
@messixaviesta wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:He would of filled the diving quota just fine :coffee:

Do you mean you agree with Barca haters that we maintain a quota of divers?
Let's not kid ourselves, we did do our fair share of diving/injury feigning, mostly in the last 4 clasico's.

I understand you were being ironic, but we don't keep any kind of diving quota. We have Busquets and Dani, who dive often. I don't like it, but let's speak up about this once and all: Diving is not the worst thing in football. People overeacts about diving.

Ask Ramsey, Eduardo or that CB in Zaragoza, that had to retire after a Figo tackle, what's the worst thing that can be done on a field. I'm pretty sure they'll agree it's rough tackles.

And for the spectators, boring defensive football is also much worse than diving.
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Post by Ganso Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:46 pm

diving is completely acceptable imo,as long as its not penalty seeking ala di maria or completely unnecessary like busquets
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Post by free_cat Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:20 pm

@Ganso wrote:diving is completely acceptable imo,as long as its not penalty seeking ala di maria or completely unnecessary like busquets

But you are always seeking a foul or something through diving, no?

I don't think it's acceptable, but I don't think it's that bad. Diving has a sanction if the ref sees it, a yellow card, which I think is a very proportionate sanction. That's it.
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Post by Ganso Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:21 pm

most players do it because they dont feel like getting hit or injured
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Post by Albiceleste Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:30 pm

@messixaviesta wrote:
@Ganso wrote:
how exactly is one supposed to disagree?.....

Sure don't disagree but keep two points in mind. One is that every single team almost without exception has it's fair share of divers. Secondly saying our players dive is one thing but saying we maintain a quota is talking about something no one knows about since none of us actually know what happens behind the scenes.
I was just being sarcastic about the quota thing, I know the clasico's is still a touchy subject and a bit raw.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:43 pm

You're playing a competitive knock-out match, it's the 80th minute and your team needs a goal to go through. You're in the area and get knocked on rather hard, you're not sure whether it was a foul or not but you felt contact enough to put you off-balance and now you can't score. What do you do?

95% of the people in that situation would fall easily upon contact, or "dive".
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Post by Guiltybystander Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:14 pm

Dutch league isn't necessarily very soft (I'd say liga is softer tbh) and Suarez is a diver lol, moreso at Ajax than at Pool and Uruguay.

However, I agree that he would have been the perfect signing for you guys. I was actually kind of expecting that to happen: he is obviously very creative and thrives in small spaces, plus he is a very efficient finisher, especially in chaotic situations. I feel he would work well with Messi. He is a bit like Zlatan, but would work better in Barca's system, both character wise and in his slightly deeper role. Having both him and Messi in the front would leave you with two players who can't be let out of sight for a second by the opponent, both unpredictable and almost unstoppable and present everywhere, always, this would leave huge holes in their defenses.

More from a psychological point of view, I think it would also work well to have a playe with more character as an added impulse at Barca: Villa, Pedro and Sanchez are not very strong personalities to me, too neutral to give your team the mental edge when things are going wrong. Suarez is great at motivating a team when everyone else is giving up (which we have seen at Uruguay and VERY MUCH so at Ajax all the time). Not that things often go wrong with Barcelona, but in those cases where Messi can get frustrated (Argentina), Suarez could lift him up, whereas, say, Villa can't really.

You should try and buy him at some point, even though he will likely be absurdly expensive starting next season, it would make Barcelona unstoppable I think.

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