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Post by Thimmy Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:02 am

Firenze wrote:Knew it was the wrong Vinicius. Madrid one is irrelevant, so he wouldn't be making news Proud

still unreal you dropped 45m on a kid


Lukaku, mate

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Post by Doc Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:36 am

Vinicius Jr. plays for Flamengo and neither Bahia nor Vitoria. Also, he scored against Boavista yesterday even got a guy injured with a dribble.

Not all Vinicius look the same BC
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Post by Freeza Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:38 am

Firenze wrote:Knew it was the wrong Vinicius. Madrid one is irrelevant, so he wouldn't be making news Proud

still unreal you dropped 45m on a kid


He scored today though hmm
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:33 pm

ffs how could there be more than one vinicius
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:31 pm

Yeah. I get that they have like 5 Freds. But 'Vinicius'? GTFO.

I think Real should be forced to sign the other Vinicius too.
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Post by farfan Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:14 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Yeah. I get that they have like 5 Freds. But 'Vinicius'? GTFO.

I think Real should be forced to sign the other Vinicius too.


New naming trend in Brazil. After decades of shunning Latin names and exploring all variations of Germanic surnames, they've come full circle to Roman-era names.
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Post by Doc Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:35 am

Future Sevilla legend Vinicius scored a brace to lead Flamengo to a 2-1 victory in their Copa Libertadores win against the might Emelec. Come from behind victory plus came off the bench too. To which, is a good adjustment for him as there he'll be spending the majority of his time at Madrid.

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Post by guest7 Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:13 am

He got nice pace but oh god that Andre Gomes crossing :facepalm:
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:10 am

he is still 17 lol
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Post by Harmonica Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:36 am

Who?
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Post by danyjr Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:50 am

He will be loaned out to Getafe where he will spend the rest of his career.

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Post by Thimmy Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:05 pm

danyjr wrote:He will be loaned out to Getafe where he will spend the rest of his career.

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Hold your horses now. He may be 5 years younger than the almighty, Arthur, but he’s got CB’s Brazilian friends’ seal of approval. Future hero of the universe. You read it here first Molenation
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:48 pm

not sure whether I've ever seen player with less end product

it's actually not possible as Vinicius' end product is exactly zero

absolutely amazing, this guy has about 20-30 actions in a game and not a single time do they end positively for his team

nothing ever comes out of anything he does, every single time he's blocked, loses the ball, skies a shot, has a pass intercepted

how is this player playing at Real Madrid?
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:15 pm

He made a great pass to Kroos that resulted in Benzema being one on one with Neto, so he wasn't completely useless.

I agree with your overall assessment though, Vinicius hasn't developed as well as the club thought he would by now.

He also has reached the age where the excuse "but he's still too young to have decent end product" is no longer valid. He should sort it out and quickly, otherwise he'll end up being just another overhyped youngster with nothing to show for it.
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Post by danyjr Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:16 pm

He wasn't signed cause he's good. He (and Rodrigo) were signed because Pérez was too butthurt about missing out on Neymar.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:30 pm

Is happless describing Dembele scratch
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Post by Thimmy Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:33 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:not sure whether I've ever seen player with less end product

it's actually not possible as Vinicius' end product is exactly zero

absolutely amazing, this guy has about 20-30 actions in a game and not a single time do they end positively for his team

nothing ever comes out of anything he does, every single time he's blocked, loses the ball, skies a shot, has a pass intercepted

how is this player playing at Real Madrid?


I suppose the Rashford argument applies here. He wastes a lot of good opportunities to score, but he’s often the reason why many of those opportunities exist in the first place. Does that excuse him? I don’t know scratch
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:38 pm

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Hapless_Hans wrote:not sure whether I've ever seen player with less end product

it's actually not possible as Vinicius' end product is exactly zero

absolutely amazing, this guy has about 20-30 actions in a game and not a single time do they end positively for his team

nothing ever comes out of anything he does, every single time he's blocked, loses the ball, skies a shot, has a pass intercepted

how is this player playing at Real Madrid?


I suppose the Rashford argument applies here. He wastes a lot of good opportunities to score, but he’s often the reason why many of those opportunities exist in the first place. Does that excuse him? I don’t know scratch


No, the opportunities exist because his team is in possession and passes the ball to him in a position where he can go for a dribble

But it makes no difference whatsoever whether there would be me standing who loses the ball right away, or Vinicius who dribbles one and a half players 'successfully' and loses it then

as for Rashford, the problem with Rashford as far as I can see is that he's hit and miss, inconsistent. But he's also scored lots of goals and some important ones
Vinicius is consistently useless. Or am I just missing his great games?
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Post by Thimmy Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:47 pm

I agree, and the same thing applies to Rashford and every other player. No end product, no point in praising what could’ve been, or what happened before nothing happened.

Vinicius has above average technical talent and flair, and it’s fun to watch when it’s used to it’s full potential, but his persistent lack of end product is a brutal bottleneck to his ability.

It’s a shame, because we don’t have any other player who can drive the ball forward like he does. If he had played with more maturity and composure to his game, he’d be exactly the type of player we need. We don’t have any better alternatives, so it is what it is.

Rashford is inconsistent, but I think his biggest issue, and the reason for his inconsistency is that when he doesn’t have a lot of room to work with, or when his team is struggling, his limitations become very evident. I’d much rather have a Rashford than a Vinicius over the course of a league season, to be honest - but in a match where my team is struggling to find space or create anything, I’d rather bet on Vinicius getting it right on one of his bombing runs towards goal, than Rashford somehow figuring out how to make himself useful.


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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:49 pm

But where the fuck is Hazard?
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Post by Thimmy Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:56 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:But where the fuck is Hazard?


Probably eating french fries somewhere :facepalm:
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Post by FennecFox7 Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:39 am

Vini played well today despite being marked. Our right side is dead with the exception of valverde. Look where the goals came from. Giant gaps on the right side. Vini and Benz were heavily marked but that gave other players space
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Post by Arquitecto Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:59 am

Ive no idea how this scrub was ever hyped. Ive literally seen nothing of note from him bar good dribbling control.

Produced nothing of note and is insanely overhyped. Next Kerlon.
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Post by Clutch Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:09 am

I dont think anyone's hyping him up

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Post by danyjr Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:04 am

Can we please not compare Vinícius to Rashford? Rashford has actually had many MotM performances in his career, he still scores plenty every season despite missing heck load of chances. Vinícius on the other hand is all YouTube flashes but literally zero end product. Reminds me of Gervinho.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:10 am

Vinicius has had many MOTM too lol

One bad game and everyone lining up to tell us how bad he is Laughing

Can't wait till we play Bayern and he announces his name on the CL stage :coffee:
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