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Post by rincon Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:47 pm

Yeah, I really don't think "how backwards ass it is that the PS4 uses SATA2 for its storage interface or how the ethernet adaptor is crippled" is gonna prevent me from enjoying FFXV next month.

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Post by Sushi Master Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:15 pm

RTSs (as in Real Time) haven't been a thing in like a decade. They're pretty nonexistent on consoles, but then again, when was the last time you had a groundbreaking one on PC? Turn Based is what it's all about nowadays. League of Legends? That's just what DOTA was when Warcraft frakking 3 was out. Years ago.

And come on, Phritz. To get those graphics you need some real juice under your hood. And that usually means hundreds of dollars on just a graphics card (and a good enough TV or monitor).

The loading time issue is like 80% because you're using an SSD... and one of those is like a third of a whole console price by itself.

Do you only play with headphones? I had my PC back home hooked up to some half decent Logitechs and let me tell you, those things were loud. I don't even play shooters too much, but having music full blast while you're passing turns is great fun. The shooters were amazing. Basically the noise complaint is not even a valid point against console users... because I'm a PC user and I like it loud.

PC will always be more powerful than PC, period. It balances out with what you're looking for. There are people who are more casual and with less money can get the same enjoyment.

One thing I hate about consoles are shooters, though. Goddamn, there's one thing a mouse will never replace. Playing shooters on consoles is like masturbating with your pinky and thumb. There's just no control nor grip. I still kick ass in Goldeneye, though. Laughing
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Post by rincon Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:20 pm

Its sad how RTS games started disappearing, the last great one I played was Company of Heroes, GOAT game. Starcraft 2 was good but not the most exciting outside of the story.

Same with point-and-click-adventure games. Those were straight up dead until telltale and a couple others brought it back. Grim Fandango and Monkey Island are some of my favorite games of any genre.
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Post by Firenze Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:46 pm

remember playing one of the monkey island games and liking it years ago but never came close to finishing it
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Post by Sushi Master Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:01 am

rincon wrote:Its sad how RTS games started disappearing, the last great one I played was Company of Heroes, GOAT game. Starcraft 2 was good but not the most exciting outside of the story.

Same with point-and-click-adventure games. Those were straight up dead until telltale and a couple others brought it back. Grim Fandango and Monkey Island are some of my favorite games of any genre.

COH was incredible. Pretty much the last real RTS game. The genre's dead, IMO. There's only so much you can do under that format, and it's pretty much all done by now. At least turn based strategy is still very alive.

BTW, Grim Fandango has a remaster and so does Monkey Island and Gabriel Knight (great game, play it if you haven't). There are a lot of point and click games on Steam by indie developers. I don't know much about them, but I have heard there are a few gems.

One key factor PC gaming has really got over consoles: modding. There are some incredibly deep mods that add hours of gametime or can completely revolutionize a game. Example, for Medieval: Total War. Which BTW, it might have turn based elements, but the battles are all real time. I literally put in hundreds of hours of gametime into that game. Modded, of course. Mods make decent games into amazing ones, and completely free of charge. Nothing like conquering the world with frakking Genoa.

The day consoles have as much mod support as PC, the battle's over. Probably never going to happen, though. Greedy corporation$ , and all that.
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Post by Thimmy Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:33 am

The remastered version of Grim Fandango was free on PS plus, a few months ago.
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Post by Onyx Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:11 pm

Proud

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Post by Kaladin Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:26 pm

Lmao, used to love smacktalking during prime PS3 PSN days, swear i used to be such a toxic and sore loser (still am tbh)
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Post by RealGunner Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:45 pm

Hope you beat him MT
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:47 pm

Onyx wrote:Proud

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LMAOOOOOOOO
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Post by Bellabong Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:17 pm

Yeah about my main SSD being half the price of a console Laughing

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full cost of my storage setup:

As for noise I'm talking about the vacuum cleaners that they are, not the audio Razz Got a z906 and surround sound + Witcher/Battlefield is glorious

Sorry if I came over so intense rincon, it's just I'm passionate about the subject not as a pc masterrace fanboy but because I'm vehemently against the closed ecosystem monopolies of consoles/Apple and especially because consoles have limited games and completely stunted growth in the 6th generation. It's the marketing, lies and over-promises and the hype that bother me the most.

As for mods - at least MS is being a little open - Sony pretty much says no. Mods have inspired entire genres and game series - heck the entire modern warfare fad can be traced back to Battlefield 1942's Desert combat. Heck my first computer that I built myself can be traced back to Kobayashi Maru for ST Bridge Commander - I started retexturing ships and next thing I know I'm using those Photoshop/image editing skills to land me cheques of $1000 at 17 years of age.


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Post by Sushi Master Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:28 pm

Mother of god What a Face
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Post by Bellabong Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:39 pm

It's so worth it though - the spinning thing on the Windows boot screen doesn't even load - my Bios starts up, then shows the windows logo for a second or two and then BAM login screen. Then there's just all the time you save, I've been spoiled and can never go back to loading screens.

I regret my GPU purchase more

Spoiler:
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Post by Sushi Master Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:15 pm

Phritz wrote:It's so worth it though - the spinning thing on the Windows boot screen doesn't even load - my Bios starts up, then shows the windows logo for a second or two and then BAM login screen. Then there's just all the time you save, I've been spoiled and can never go back to loading screens.

I have a regular Samsung SSD on my PC and I thought that was fast enough for me.

I do imagine once you get used to that level of speed... everything else is just irritating. It happened to me after working under an SSD for a while and then troubleshooting my parent's Celeron Laughing.

Just curious, how much did that whole setup cost you?

And on the mod thing, I'd say it goes even farther back than that: Counter-Strike was available in 1999. Pretty much any half modern shooter has its roots there. Overwatch was born from Team Fortress, which was a Quake 2 mod originally...

I don't have anything against consoles, but modding is freedom and innovation. Modding is life. It's amazing what modders do for free.
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Post by RealGunner Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:20 pm



That link leads to an IGN review for Infinite warfare
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Post by Bellabong Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:12 pm

I can't believe I completely blanked on CS starting as a mod Laughing

As for my setup


Peripherals - 1201 EU:

System - 2541.08 EU:

You could actually build a system with the same gaming performance for less than half the price - but mine's also a workstation so I had to splurge on the x99 platform plus I bought some other superfluous things (LED RAM Laughing)

Porn:

Third Age Total War (Medieval Total War II)
Stainless Steel (Medieval Total War II)
Kobayashi Maru (ST Bridge Commander)
Skyrim The Journey (Skyrim)
MedianXL (Diablo II)
Fall From Heaven 2 (Civ 4)
Rhyse and Fall of Civilization (Civ 4)
PESpatch (PES series)

The list of mods that rival/surpass AAA releases is astounding and I could go on and on - I'm a sucker for mods

My Peripheral costs are about to almost straight up double though, I'm buying this baby as my personal christmas present:

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Post by Sushi Master Sat Nov 05, 2016 12:39 am

That's one sweet rig. If a Star Destroyer were one day turned into a PC, that would be it.

I at first asked myself, "why two monitors?". Then I saw Laughing What a mancave FFS.

Stainless Steel... oh god, that was the mod I put hundreds of hours into. Just class.

I've played the first 4, all high quality total conversions. I wasted far too much time with Fallout/Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim mods. Pretty much any half decent RPG has mods which are like sequels or complete games by themselves. Like the Mechwarrior conversion for Crysis, just crazy.

Anyways I gotta ask... do you ever lag with that rig? Can it pull off 4k?
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Post by Bellabong Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:41 am

I can 4k the most demanding games - 50fps not my cup of tea though and I prefer ultra-wide it's gotten to the point where how you see old 4:3 monitors/TV's is the same way I see 16:9 now Laughing

Lag? I think I remember what that is Razz

I think for me the most attractive thing about mods is how they're constantly trying to improve and change - a quality game devs (or should I say publishers in most cases) seem to neglect recently. It was so refreshing to boot up Skyrim recently and see how things like SkyUI have improved since I the last time i played Skyrim and I tried playing Special Edition but the vanilla Skyrim interface makes the game unplayable.

It doesn't even need to be total conversions though - small mods like Better Messagebox controls (skyrim) that allow you to navigate dialogue options with wasd eliminates jarring frustrations.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:28 pm

Think I am burnt out.

Might take a break till FF15
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Nov 05, 2016 1:31 pm

Lol you have basically played Bioshock for nearly 2 months it feels like.

I'm not surprised.
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Post by Firenze Sat Nov 05, 2016 2:56 pm

Smash Life is Strange on the lead up to Final Fantasy IMO. Nice chill game you can take at your own pace. Think I played an episode every day or two

One of the reasons I am skipping Watch Dogs 2, would probably beat it a few days before FFXV and don't wanna burn myself out. Bought Battlefield 1 and Fifa to play casually until Final Fantasy
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Post by Bellabong Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:07 pm

"Free to play" Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:09 pm

What's that on lol?

I have spent like £8 on Gwent already Laughing and this is the beta rofl
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Post by RealGunner Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:13 pm

Probably a MMO lol

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Post by Kaladin Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:15 pm

That's LoL

Been playing WoW past 2 months, not really interested in anything atm (bar Dishonored and FF) should keep me busy until Spring's bombardment of games
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Post by RealGunner Sat Nov 05, 2016 11:33 pm

In tears

Anon playing WOW

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