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Post by RealGunner Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:18 pm

They have had the harshest fixtures so far with playing big teams away from home. Out of Arsenal (a), Burnley (a), Tottenham (a), Leicester (h), and Chelsea (a) they only dropped points to Burnley. Spectacular results. He will only improve them further more


how far can Klopp take them? Can they stun everyone and do a Leicester?

Will Big match Klopp vs League specialist Pep be the fixture of the decade?
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Post by Lucifer Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:20 pm

Nope.

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Post by Art Morte Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:25 pm

No.

But next year will be our year.
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Post by McAgger Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:26 pm

Klopp will bend Pep over when we meet.

But title is out of the question when we can't beat the likes of Burnley's who will park the bus against us.

In the next 10 matches we will have Hull City(h), Swansea(a), West Brom(h), Crystal Palace(a), Watford(h), Southampton(a), Sunderland(h), Bournemouth(a), West Ham(h), Middlesbrough (a).

If we don't win 8/10 in that span against those scrubs we got no business winning any title.

But if we do, then yes we'll challenge easily because that's our biggest weakness in the past decade. There's no doubt in my mind playing as a team we're top 3 in the league.
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Post by Nishankly Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:28 pm

No we can't.

We are still playing a CM at LB and last match we played a DM at CB. Sturridge is probably injured again. Firmino, Origi and Ings is a good strike force but not a title winning strike force.

We still have Mignolet and Moreno in the squad, We still lack a LB and DM for properly having a go at the title imo.

A CL spot will be a huge huge achievement for Klopp and it'll be one to go in the Liverpool record books with a negative net spend of 15m considering what we've seen from the dire managers who've managed us before him and after Rafa.

The football we play and our attackers are sublime though. Man City are better than us in all departments except the fact we've got a much younger squad.
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Post by El Gunner Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:30 pm

Won't even finish top 4
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Post by McAgger Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:32 pm

El Gunner wrote:Won't even finish top 4


Let's take this to the betting thread. You couldn't be any more off. Top 4 is guaranteed with 1 game a week.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:59 am

Don't call me James wrote:
El Gunner wrote:Won't even finish top 4


Let's take this to the betting thread. You couldn't be any more off. Top 4 is guaranteed with 1 game a week.


No it isn't Laughing

God you are so bipolar Laughing Besides the only team it's guaranteed for is City. The rest are far too inconsistent, you are clearly in with a chance just like Arsenal and Chelsea do. But to say it's guaranteed considering you have already lost to Burnley this season and since Klopp became manager lost to shit teams multiple times is absolutely ridiculous.

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Post by McAgger Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:29 am

How can I possibly win this argument?

I say it's guaranteed that we make top 4 and at the end of the season even when we get top 4, you are still going have the excuse of saying "you played well but nothing was guaranteed" or some garbage like that.

You're also covering your ass by saying we have a shot at top 4 which means even when we make it in May, again you will have your excuses.

There is absolutely no way for me to win this.

Unless you agree to apologize to me at the end of the season if we are top 4 and take the opposite stand to what I'm saying, there's really no argument.


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Post by matpol Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:29 am

Nope, he can't. Liverpool will finish 6th or 7th /thread
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:22 am

Not sure what the hell is wrong with RG's reading comprehension, I thought I had by now clearly stated more than often enough that there's only team winning the title for the next 3 seasons.
Threads like this are superfluous and a waste of time.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:44 am

Don't call me James wrote:How can I possibly win this argument?

I say it's guaranteed that we make top 4 and at the end of the season even when we get top 4, you are still going have the excuse of saying "you played well but nothing was guaranteed" or some garbage like that.

You're also covering your ass by saying we have a shot at top 4 which means even when we make it in May, again you will have your excuses.

There is absolutely no way for me to win this.

Unless you agree to apologize to me at the end of the season if we are top 4 and take the opposite stand to what I'm saying, there's really no argument.


Firstly, winning an argument is childish. Who the hell cares lol.

My issue isn't that you may think that you'll finish top 4, it's that you said it's guaranteed ffs Laughing

Surely you must see the difference between the two?
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Post by Casciavit Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:37 am

If they find a way to consistently beat smaller teams, then sure, but as of now it doesn't seem like it.

I maintained that they'd make it to the CL, but I still think the title is a bit too far.
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Post by CBarca Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:04 am

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Post by Doc Sat Sep 17, 2016 5:55 am

As long as McAgger is a Liverpool fan, no.
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Post by iftikhar Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:49 am

Waaaaaaaaaaaay toooooooooooo early for such predictions.

The biggest issue as many has pointed out already, is our ability to break smaller teams (Burnley) or holding on to our advantage (Spurs). Let's wait till the half-way mark and see how we fare.

I would be more than happy with top-four finish. But what I really, really want is Klopp to put an end to his five game losing streak in cup finals.
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Post by footyfan01 Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:55 am

Liverpool need to support him by spending 40-50M Euros, I mean they didn't spend a lot as most of it was recouped through Benteke & other sales.

I think they need a top winger to challenge Mane & Lallana. I think surely they need a LB for sure. They've got 5-6 CB's - Sakho, Ilori, Klavan, Gomez, etc & if they want more CB's they have to dump a lot of scrubs.

This team is still 1-2 years away from being the best. Next year I will probably buy a DM & a CB & sell some scrubs like Lucas, Ilori, Gomez, etc

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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:18 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Don't call me James wrote:How can I possibly win this argument?

I say it's guaranteed that we make top 4 and at the end of the season even when we get top 4, you are still going have the excuse of saying "you played well but nothing was guaranteed" or some garbage like that.

You're also covering your ass by saying we have a shot at top 4 which means even when we make it in May, again you will have your excuses.

There is absolutely no way for me to win this.

Unless you agree to apologize to me at the end of the season if we are top 4 and take the opposite stand to what I'm saying, there's really no argument.


Firstly, winning an argument is childish. Who the hell cares lol.

My issue isn't that you may think that you'll finish top 4, it's that you said it's guaranteed ffs Laughing

Surely you must see the difference between the two?


Hames wants to 'win' an argument that something that will determined by 33 remaining match days of highly volatile games is already 'guaranteed' lol. What absolute nonsense. Of course it's not guaranteed.
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Post by McAgger Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:16 pm

footyfan01 wrote:Liverpool need to support him by spending 40-50M Euros, I mean they didn't spend a lot as most of it was recouped through Benteke & other sales.

I think they need a top winger to challenge Mane & Lallana. I think surely they need a LB for sure. They've got 5-6 CB's - Sakho, Ilori, Klavan, Gomez, etc & if they want more CB's they have to dump a lot of scrubs.

This team is still 1-2 years away from being the best. Next year I will probably buy a DM & a CB & sell some scrubs like Lucas, Ilori, Gomez, etc


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What a garbage post. Have you watched Liverpool at all under Klopp?

First Liverpool spent double the amount you're talking about this summer. Second Klopp didn't want to spend anymore himself. He refused to sign players for the sake of signing them. Some of his main targets weren't available so he didn't want to sign anyone.

Lallana a winger Laughing

Last thing we need is a winger.

Everybody and their cat knows we need a LB, but Klopp decided Milner was good enough there if our main target wasn't available. Has kept Lamela, Mahrez, and Willian in his back pocket so far since he started playing there.

I don't understand why you even bring up CB's in your post. Okay Sherlock, we need to sell a CB if we want to buy another one.

Yes let's sell Joe Gomez, 19 year old kid who is one of the brightest English defensive talents whom we just signed last year.

If players are deadwood, they will be sold. For now the squad it is what it is and it's more than good enough to challenge for some stuff this season.

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Post by Helmer Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:38 pm



RG for you mate !

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Post by footyfan01 Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:52 pm

Don't call me James wrote:
footyfan01 wrote:Liverpool need to support him by spending 40-50M Euros, I mean they didn't spend a lot as most of it was recouped through Benteke & other sales.

I think they need a top winger to challenge Mane & Lallana. I think surely they need a LB for sure. They've got 5-6 CB's - Sakho, Ilori, Klavan, Gomez, etc & if they want more CB's they have to dump a lot of scrubs.

This team is still 1-2 years away from being the best. Next year I will probably buy a DM & a CB & sell some scrubs like Lucas, Ilori, Gomez, etc


Laughing

What a garbage post. Have you watched Liverpool at all under Klopp?

First Liverpool spent double the amount you're talking about this summer. Second Klopp didn't want to spend anymore himself. He refused to sign players for the sake of signing them. Some of his main targets weren't available so he didn't want to sign anyone.

Lallana a winger Laughing

Last thing we need is a winger.

Everybody and their cat knows we need a LB, but Klopp decided Milner was good enough there if our main target wasn't available. Has kept Lamela, Mahrez, and Willian in his back pocket so far since he started playing there.

I don't understand why you even bring up CB's in your post. Okay Sherlock, we need to sell a CB if we want to buy another one.

Yes let's sell Joe Gomez, 19 year old kid who is one of the brightest English defensive talents whom we just signed last year.

If players are deadwood, they will be sold. For now the squad it is what it is and it's more than good enough to challenge for some stuff this season.



http://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-liverpool/transfers/verein/31/saison_id/2016

As per Transfrmrkt you guys spend a net 0 this year - It is difficult to spend 0 & win consistently when others are spending 100M+, every season can't be a Leicester. If Joe Gomez is that good he should be starting at a time when the CB situation is horrific. There are 6 CB's from Sakho to Ilori, so someone has to be sold. Maybe Klopp sees talent in this set, that is why he doesn't want a CB. My post was in response for the clamour call for CB's.

I have seen enough of Klopp since his Mainz days to know his weakness especially against middle & low table teams where he desperately needs top creative players to break the deadlock.

Lallana & Mane are decent though Lallana woulldn't play for any top player. What happens when Mane's performance falls or if there is 1 injury.

I am sorry Liverpool is not good to win. City will wipe the floor with them. I think Klopp is doing well with the team, I was a Gini fan when he was in Feyenoord & was a RW & 15 odd with Leroy Fer & he was voted as the top 100 talents etc, but he is a glorified Donkey as every hardcore Dutch NT fan who has seen will tell you. Klopp is getting this team to over-perform.

City has Gundogan, an artist vs Gini, Aguero, De Bruyne, Silva, Sane, Sterling n so on. Only Coutinho & Mane are potentially Top Class (maybe Sturridge at his peak if not injured). I have seen Firmino for years since Hoffenheim, he used to be a productive player but is not an elite or creative player.

I am supportive of Klopp in general but Liverpool fans are some of the most delusional fanbase I have seen or the one's in goallegacy.

I don't think you have the intelligence to trash my post since you do not seem to understand much of football!

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Post by Nishankly Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:01 pm

You do realize that the thread has been created by an Arsenal fan and ALL the Liverpool fans have said no to winning the title?

Yes?
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Post by McAgger Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:04 pm

This clown Laughing

Go play some more football manager.
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Post by CBarca Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:11 pm

Personally think Lallana has been one of Liverpool's best players this year. Guy looks reborn. He's a tidy player that works his tail off and has been the link between the midfield and strikers for Pool (moreso than the likes of Coutinho imo). Finds himself in good positions between the lines always ready for a flick or a good touch to the likes of Firmino or an oncoming Coutinho, or a Mane running behind the defense.

Don't know if he would get in at Man City or maybe not even United, but I think he could start at Chelsea (better than Willian), Spurs (rotation with Eriksen, Lamela and Alli), United for sure. Good player, looks very good under Klopp.
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Post by Unique Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:17 pm

Don't call me James wrote:This clown Laughing

Go play some more football manager.
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