Re: English Premier League '16-'17 Discussion - Part 3

by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:07 pm

THat's 80 millions pounds Anthony Martial, the most expensive teenager of all times Proud

by Art Morte Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:07 pm

What do people reckon is actually United's best XI and the formation? hmm

by RealGunner Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:09 pm

Martial was actually injured and had to go off btw

by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:09 pm

DDG
whatever-whatever-smalling-whatever
herrera-schneiderlin-pogba
mata/rashford-ibra-martial

if mourinho doesnt make this happen, he is doomed to mediocrity again this season

by Firenze Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:09 pm

Unique wrote:
Firenze wrote:Yeah, it's genuinely bewildering that Pool fans are calling out another team for having shite, overrated defenders.

Sakho, Lovren (who wasn't cheap and absolutely SUCKS for 95% of the season) Klavan etc etc

that's true. but its also a bit like man u fans saying Henderson is shit when you have pogba in the team

Henderson is shit, never proven anything in his career, unlike proven quality Pogbito who is adjusting to a new role Proud

by rincon Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:10 pm

Art Morte wrote:What do people reckon is actually United's best XI and the formation?

I would try something like this.

De Gea

Valencia Baily Smalling Shaw

Herrera Schneiderlin Pogba

Mkhitaryan

Rashford Ibrahimovic

by Firenze Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:10 pm

ppl still rating Herrera rofl

it's been 3 years and he's had about 2 decent performances, sure he has never had a solid run in the team but when given his opportunities he has never impressed.

by RealGunner Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:11 pm

Art Morte wrote:What do people reckon is actually United's best XI and the formation?

------------------De Gea---------------------
Valencia-----Smalling----Bailley-------Shaw
------------------Carrick----------------------
--------Schneiderlin-----------Pogba------------
Mkhitaryan------------Ibra---------------Rashford

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:12 pm

At the start of the season i would have said this.

De Gea
Darmian Smalling Bailly Shaw
Schneiderlin
Herrera Pogba
Mata/Mkhitaryan(don't really care which) Ibra Martial

Although Rashford's development throws a wrench in the forward set up some what.

by Lucifer Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:12 pm

@firenze
are u actually defending that quote rofl

by Mr Nick09 Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:12 pm

you would bench martial for rashford? i thought he was the new Henry?

by Nishankly Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:13 pm

Boreinho wrote:"Then the referee and the linesman's mistake is not under my control. I can't do anything to improve it.

"In the second half we were much better. We got the equaliser and after that we were the team. Gomes makes a phenomenal save and the lucky moments again are not something we can control.

"We cannot control the referee, we cannot control the lucky moments. The only thing we can control is our individual and collective mistakes."

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:13 pm

Firenze wrote:ppl still rating Herrera

it's been 3 years and he's had about 2 decent performances, sure he has never had a solid run in the team but when given his opportunities he has never impressed.

Probably because he's never been given opportunities, besides when i have seen him i have. He's the only one in your squad who actually controls the pace of the football match and sets up team mates.

by Firenze Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:13 pm

rincon wrote:
Art Morte wrote:What do people reckon is actually United's best XI and the formation?

I would try something like this.

De Gea

Valencia Baily Smalling Shaw

Herrera Schneiderlin Pogba

Mkhitaryan

Rashford Ibrahimovic

I'd like to see something like this, although replace Herrera with Wayne Pirlo

by RealGunner Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:14 pm

Rashford has surpassed him. Martial has regressed under Mourinho. When Rashford plays, he genuinely looks like the only player who can do something. Martial plays like Eto'o at Inter.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:15 pm

Diamond is probably the best fit for the players they have, although i have hardly seen a diamond implemented properly in the league for a long period of time.

by rincon Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:16 pm

But Eto'o was awesome at Inter hmm

by Glory Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:17 pm

RealGunner wrote:
Art Morte wrote:What do people reckon is actually United's best XI and the formation?

------------------De Gea---------------------
Valencia-----Smalling----Bailley-------Shaw
------------------Carrick----------------------
--------Schneiderlin-----------Pogba------------
Mkhitaryan------------Ibra---------------Rashford

This^^
Schneiderlin and Herrera can rotate and likewise Carrick, Blind and Basti can rotate.
Martial will get into our best 11 too. Once he gets back to his stride he's one helluva player. Right now tho like Pog he's struggling for confidence.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:17 pm

rincon wrote:But Eto'o was awesome at Inter

Defensively yes, offensively not so much.

by Tomwin Lannister Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:18 pm

Nishankly wrote:
Boreinho wrote:"Then the referee and the linesman's mistake is not under my control. I can't do anything to improve it.

"In the second half we were much better. We got the equaliser and after that we were the team. Gomes makes a phenomenal save and the lucky moments again are not something we can control.

"We cannot control the referee, we cannot control the lucky moments. The only thing we can control is our individual and collective mistakes."

Maybe try doing something that is within your control, like setting up a team where 5 players aren't playing out of position and your only strategy is to give the ball to grandpa upfront and hope he sets up his own goal.

by zigra Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:19 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:
Nishankly wrote:
Boreinho wrote:"Then the referee and the linesman's mistake is not under my control. I can't do anything to improve it.

"In the second half we were much better. We got the equaliser and after that we were the team. Gomes makes a phenomenal save and the lucky moments again are not something we can control.

"We cannot control the referee, we cannot control the lucky moments. The only thing we can control is our individual and collective mistakes."

Maybe try doing something that is within your control, like setting up a team where 5 players aren't playing out of position and your only strategy is to give the ball to grandpa upfront and hope he sets up his own goal.

You coming at the greatest manager of our generation? hmm

by Nishankly Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:21 pm

Mourinho's control ffs :bow:

by rincon Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:21 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
rincon wrote:But Eto'o was awesome at Inter

Defensively yes, offensively not so much.

Come on now, as much as it sucked for Juve back then, Eto'o was a huge success for Inter. He did everything Mou wanted to the letter. On both ends. He got 22 and 43 goals+assists respectively in the 2 seasons while putting that shift defending the wing.

Martial has been playing nothing like him.

by RealGunner Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:23 pm

rincon wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
rincon wrote:But Eto'o was awesome at Inter

Defensively yes, offensively not so much.

Come on now, as much as it sucked for Juve back then, Eto'o was a huge success for Inter. He did everything Mou wanted to the letter. On both ends. He got 22 and 43 goals+assists while putting that shift defending the wing.

Martial has been playing nothing like him.

No one is denying Eto'o wasn't great at Inter, but Martial's role under Mourinho is solely to defend the wing while offence not being a priority. Eto'o was the master so it wasn't hard for him to get the goals but for someone as new as Martial, he can't do both. So as a result he is in a limbo.

by Glory Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:23 pm

Firenze wrote:ppl still rating Herrera

it's been 3 years and he's had about 2 decent performances, sure he has never had a solid run in the team but when given his opportunities he has never impressed.

Lol have you like skipped the entire first season of his with us ? Aye last season he delivered only like 2 times. But that was had more to do with LvG totally clipping his wings. He transformed a forward thinking player to a scared and passive backward passing player.
Put the lad under a quality manager like Pep and you will see how good he can be. > Fernandinho actually.
This season btw, he is been slowly getting to his old self.

by Tomwin Lannister Sun Sep 18, 2016 3:23 pm

No I never said anything negative towards Walter Mazzarri AKA Alec Baldwin AKA Dustin Hoffman

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