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Post by rincon Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:13 pm

The lack of preseason is big of course but you just cannot lose this many games. De Boer is out of his depth. He is too new to managing and too new to the league for this challenge.

Blanc might be good but I'd rather give the reins to a coach who knows the league well. Coming in the middle of a season you need to know exactly what you are doing without wasting time and points. Guidolin would be the safest choice.

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Post by Luca Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:24 pm

rincon wrote:The lack of preseason is big of course but you just cannot lose this many games. De Boer is out of his depth. He is too new to managing and too new to the league for this challenge.

Blanc might be good but I'd rather give the reins to a coach who knows the league well. Coming in the middle of a season you need to know exactly what you are doing without wasting time and points. Guidolin would be the safest choice.


I agree, but one certainly contributes to another. In a new league, with some new signings, its that much more difficult to get things going without a preseason.

With that being said, there is too much talent in this team to be putting in the performances that they are. I believe several prominent Italian experts even said that the team was the most talented in Italy, awfully strong expectations for a team that hasn't done anything but strain their necks from looking up at the champions for several seasons, but that's a story for another time.

Inter scored 50 goals last year in 38 games. This is an awful rate of return for a team aiming to be in the Champions League.

This season, they have 13 goals through 11 games and their defense has not been strong enough to win them a string of games 1-0 like last season under Mancini in the first half of their season.

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Post by McAgger Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:25 pm

Ajax hated him as well even though he won multiple titles with them.

He's just not too good.

Inter can do better.

Simeone's contract ends in 2018 and he will leave Atleti 100%. Inter need a placeholder to steady the ship and start the process for the next two seasons until the Godfather arrives.

Pellegrini might not be a bad option until then.
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Post by Warrior Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:48 pm

Laurent Blanc will be the next manager of Inter.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:02 am

zigra wrote:Imo he just needs more time. Give him a full season.


Incredible how impatient this football business has become nowadays. Firing a coach after less than half a season is plain madness.

Of course he needs a couple of seasons, a couple of transfer windows, to shape and build his team. Impossible to judge him before that.
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Post by zigra Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:12 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
zigra wrote:Imo he just needs more time. Give him a full season.


Incredible how impatient this football business has become nowadays. Firing a coach after less than half a season is plain madness.

Of course he needs a couple of seasons, a couple of transfer windows, to shape and build his team. Impossible to judge him before that.


Maybe people just need to realise that Inter is a midtable club. In a good season they challenge for the EL spots. 11th isn't good enough but so early into the season it's hardly outrageous. This is Inter, not Juve.
De Boer didn't get a preseason or a transfer window, instead he got a captain who threatens to kill his own fans ffs.
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Post by juve_gigi Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:08 am

I hear Mancini is available. Couldn't be any worse tbh...
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Post by rincon Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:04 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
zigra wrote:Imo he just needs more time. Give him a full season.


Incredible how impatient this football business has become nowadays. Firing a coach after less than half a season is plain madness.

Of course he needs a couple of seasons, a couple of transfer windows, to shape and build his team. Impossible to judge him before that.


They have lost against Chievo, Beer Sheva, Prague, Roma, Cagliari, Atalanta and Sampdoria. Plus draws against Palermo and Bologna.

This is just unacceptable for their club and squad. Look at their players and their investment. Its even hard to determine a clear weakness in that starting 11 that makes them so incapable of beating teams like Palermo (will get relegated) and Cagliari.

zigra wrote:
Maybe people just need to realise that Inter is a midtable club. In a good season they challenge for the EL spots. 11th isn't good enough but so early into the season it's hardly outrageous. This is Inter, not Juve.
De Boer didn't get a preseason or a transfer window, instead he got a captain who threatens to kill his own fans ffs.


Even for how much of an idiot Icardi was, he is still carrying Inter and De Boer. For like the first 5 weeks he was the only player to score! and now has 8 of the 13 goals scored by Inter plus 2 assists. Inter has not won a Serie A game where Icardi wasn't involved in all of the goals.

Pescara 1-2 Inter - Icardi scored both
Inter 2-1 Juve - Icardi scored one and assisted the other as the clear motm
Empoli 0-2 Inter Icardi scored both
Inter 2-1 Torino Icardi scored both

So where is De Boer's work? if Icardi doesn't show up massively then they draw/lose. Simply not the right man for the job.
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Post by zigra Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:40 am

Look man. I think I've said what I think about de Boer often enough.

But that's not the point. Inter is a midtable club now and to change that you have to be prepared to give your coach a decent chance. Give him time, give him a transfer window or 2, see what happens.
Sure if Inter is suddenly fighting relegation that's one thing but they are far from it at the moment. They sack him now they get in another coach who had no time with the squad and will again be replaced in a few months or next season. It's a joke.
This isn't about de Boer being the right or wrong person for the job.
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Post by rincon Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:02 pm

Of course De Boer's sack watch is about him being the wrong person for the job. You have to give time to coaches, but not to the wrong man. Inter are just as far from relegation than they are from CL places. Not good enough. Your post is describing Fiorentina, not Inter.

A club with their history, their recent success, their new ambitious owners, and their squad, can't be 11th on the table without signs of improvement.

Last season Juve was hit with a barrage of injuries plus 3 of our best players leaving the club. We were in the position that Inter is today but Allegri didn't get sacked. The difference? we had too many injuries and Allegri had won the double and got to a CL final. How can they rely on De Boer when he doesn't have the resume to offer these certainties?

It took us an unreal run to come back and win the title. Inter can't do that. Their players have mostly been fit, their coach isn't showing too many ideas, their big chance for a turnaround was the Juve win, but they squandered that.

The thing is they made a big investment looking to step forward, if they miss out on EL/CL more of their players will start to leave. Icardi and Brozovic were already on the verge last summer. Handanovic is a question mark in every transfer window. If they finish 7th, which is very possible, most of their quality players will look to leave again.

They are looking well below the level of Juve, Roma, Milan, Lazio and Napoli. Their rivals have become Fiorentina and Torino. If I was a fan I'd be worried.
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Post by zigra Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:58 pm

Him being the wrong man might well be true but Inter decided he's the right man so they should stick with him. I wouldn't have chosen him at all but if you give him a contract you have to give him a fair chance as well. Sacking him now is not giving him a fair chance. Inter have done exactly that for the last years. They've sacked manager after manager and it didn't do them any good. Mancini was the only one they gave a fair chance and yeah, he failed. But apart from that they just apoint new managers all the time and gain nothing.

Their rivals are Firoentina and Torino? Well yes, but that's nothing new. History means *bleep* all. This is reality for half a decade now. You talk about investments but all I see is a bang average squad. I already said de Boer should do better but you act like Inter should fight for CL places and that's just plain ridiculous. This is a midtable club and it will take investments and strategy to get back to the top.

If they sack de Boer now, who will they bring in? Another manager who they replace at the end of the season and they gain nothing.
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Post by Kaladin Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:20 pm

Sources say Pioli will take charge tomorrow
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Post by M99 Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:55 am

ES wrote:Sources say Pioli will take charge tomorrow


For a second, I thought you said Poli.
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Post by Vibe Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:06 am

Same old same old... They hired Frank because they wanted him to develop young players, integrate them.

Then they put pressure on him to produce immediate results, and of course the young players are on the bench.

5 years of the same.
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Post by McAgger Tue Nov 01, 2016 11:32 am

Welp it's official now.
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Post by Kaladin Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:50 pm

One of the worst coaches Inter ever had, can't believe he got hyped as a prodigal manager, belongs with the likes of Villas Boas, Martinez, Di Matteo, Pippo etc
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Post by Firenze Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:55 pm

Di Goatteo is a CL winning manager, don't lump him in with those other frauds.

De Boer rofl will be back in the dutch league or at shanghai noon next
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:58 pm

Inter are just terribly run. Complete clowns.
Why hire him in the first place if you think he's so bad you're not prepared to give him any time.
Especially change managers after/in midst the preseason.

But it's FFP's fault of course rofl
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Post by zigra Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:17 pm

Joke of a club.
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Post by Warrior Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:26 pm

So he's gone now. At least we can say he managed the derby against Juve masterfully. He beat Max that game.

The next manager will be the 9th coach for Inter since they won the treble. I think Mazzarri has the longevity "record", a year and a half or so.

Read he was fired through Skype, and Franky post his goodbye message on Instagram... Laughing Laughing It's like they are not even trying anymore... they hire someone and the guy barely has a 6 month stint before being on the eject seat.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:30 pm

Then again, they really had no choice but to perform terribly and fire their manager again, since they weren't allowed to register Joao Mario for EL.
Held down by FFP, really.
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Post by Warrior Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:34 pm

Icardi, Perisic, Mario, Ranocchia and Handanovic are the only GOOD players there.

Other players are decent at best.
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Post by M99 Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:53 pm

Warrior wrote:Icardi, Perisic, Mario, Ranocchia and Handanovic are the only GOOD players there.

Other players are decent at best.


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Post by breva Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:35 pm

M99 wrote:
Warrior wrote:Icardi, Perisic, Mario, Ranocchia and Handanovic are the only GOOD players there.

Other players are decent at best.


@breva


LOL, to mention a few. Many are starters on top ten national teams.

Gabriel Barbosa
Ever Banega
Jeison Murillo
Miranda
Gary Medel
Antonio Candreva
Stevan Jovetic
Marcelo Brozovic
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Post by zigra Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:41 pm

That list.

Dead
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Post by Warrior Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:46 pm

Gabriel Barbosa: unproven, i bet my shoes that he will have a shit career
Ever Banega: i don't get the hype around this guy, never did
Jeison Murillo: decent at best
Miranda: forgot about him, Miranda is a good defender, my bad
Gary Medel: decent at best
Antonio Candreva: decent but overrated
Stevan Jovetic: bro this guy is finished rofl
Marcelo Brozovic: every time i see him he does nothing on the pitch
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