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Post by salmano9 Thu 26 Jan - 22:17:55

My only concern about this 4231 is that it leaves 0 attacking options on the bench apart from Pjaca, who still needs time. Otherwise, it is a bomb.

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Post by rincon Thu 26 Jan - 23:05:07

I agree with @salmano9 , I like this ideas, but we can't sustain it for too many games this season. Next season if we tailor the team to it then it can be our future.
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Post by juve_gigi Fri 27 Jan - 1:31:58

salmano9 wrote:My only concern about this 4231 is that it leaves 0 attacking options on the bench apart from Pjaca, who still needs time. Otherwise, it is a bomb.


When Berardi comes in the summer it will be fine... Cool
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Post by salmano9 Sat 28 Jan - 17:25:14

juve_gigi wrote:
salmano9 wrote:My only concern about this 4231 is that it leaves 0 attacking options on the bench apart from Pjaca, who still needs time. Otherwise, it is a bomb.


When Berardi comes in the summer it will be fine... Cool

Berardi is a chicken! Lol... He is afraid to step up. I don't know if he will ever come :p
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Post by DeviAngel Sat 28 Jan - 17:27:05

screw Berardi get Bernadeschi ffs
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Post by Warrior Sun 29 Jan - 0:49:12

DeviAngel wrote:screw Berardi get Bernadeschi ffs



Agreed

Berardi would already be bianconero since 2015 if he really wanted it. Guy is an Inter fan iirc, i think the management has given up on his case. Been a rumor for years, talk about an unnecessary saga.

Bernardeschi also look like the real deal, problem is, i suppose he hates Juve as well Laughing
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Post by juve_gigi Sun 29 Jan - 8:33:49

Berardi > Bernardeschi

And it's not even close...

He will come. I can feel it...
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Post by salmano9 Sun 29 Jan - 12:19:55

Why is allegri not changing the font 3/4. Someone needs a rest and Pjaca has to come on.
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Post by juvealbanian Sun 29 Jan - 14:11:18

Probable XI :

JUVENTUS (4-2-3-1): Buffon; Lichtsteiner, Bonucci, Chiellini, Alex Sandro; Khedira, Pjanic; Cuadrado, Dybala, Mandzukic, Higuain.

We could have rest Khedira and Mandzukic at least. Throwing Rincon and Pjaca respectivly. I think if we'll close the match in first half , Pjaca will get 30+ minutes. Like salmano said we need to rotate our attackers as we only have Pjaca in bench with this formation.
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Post by salmano9 Sun 29 Jan - 16:13:22

Graaaandiiii! nice play Mandzu Sandro and what a fox Higuain!
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Post by salmano9 Sun 29 Jan - 16:29:04

GRAANDDIIIIIII
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Post by salmano9 Sun 29 Jan - 18:05:05

Pjaca Pjaca Pjaca, the story of 2016/2017. Noi Sempre Aspettiamo Pjaca...
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Post by juve_gigi Sun 29 Jan - 20:12:24

The 4-2-3-1 is the formation to move forward. It allows everyone to play and gives us the offense necessary to score goals. If we are ahead and holding a lead it can be easily switched to a 3-5-2 with only one sub.

We need at least one more offensive player now for next year. We have a top midfielder coming in Tolisso so we need another winger to rotate on the flanks. Of course Berardi is my choice. He could actually start and play alongside Dybala in a 4-2-3-1.

Notice Sassuolo played the exact same formation. So Berardi is getting acclimated to the 4-2-3-1 for next year. Cool Cool
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Post by juvealbanian Sun 29 Jan - 20:36:22

Is it true that Dybala refused to shake Allegri's hand?

I can see Berardi coming only if Dybala leaves. Dybala was a bit poor today , he's better when he's on the right.
We are playing him and Mandzukic out of position. Too bad Cuadrado doesn't play on the left or center.I know it's working but it's also consuming lots of energy to pir offensive players.

We need to bring a proper attacking mid like James or Isco assuming we already got Tolisso and Pjanic will play deeper. Or bring Sanchez and Berardi/Bernardeschi if Dybala leaves.
So far Mandzukic has done great thanks to his amazing workrate he creates chances for Sandro to go forward but I'd still prefer a proper winger there. We should use Pjaca more for now.

Pjaca and Cuadrado on the wings would be deadly.
Dybala will have more space considering Pjaca is far better at 1vs1 situations which means more space for Paulo and Higuain to move in center.
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Post by dronte Sun 29 Jan - 21:47:02

Yep its true the video is everywhere

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Post by rincon Sun 29 Jan - 21:53:59

Allegri:

http://www.football-italia.net/97621/allegri-dybala-handshake-not-issue
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Post by juve_gigi Sun 29 Jan - 22:10:46

Paulo Dybala pulls off shocking snub to Juventus coach Max Allegri



:facepalm:
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Post by juve_gigi Sun 29 Jan - 22:13:12

rincon wrote:Allegri:

http://www.football-italia.net/97621/allegri-dybala-handshake-not-issue


Don't care what he said. That's disrespectful and he should be ashamed of himself. Del Piero would have never done that. If he wants to be a leader on this team he needs to show respect to his coach. If he wants to act like a child then he can go to ManU and dab with Pogba and I'll gladly take the $120 million.
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Post by salmano9 Sun 29 Jan - 22:40:48

juve_gigi wrote:
rincon wrote:Allegri:

http://www.football-italia.net/97621/allegri-dybala-handshake-not-issue


Don't care what he said. That's disrespectful and he should be ashamed of himself. Del Piero would have never done that. If he wants to be a leader on this team he needs to show respect to his coach. If he wants to act like a child then he can go to ManU and dab with Pogba and I'll gladly take the $120 million.

He is still a kid... He will learn, otherwise if he continues like this, the door is open and Alexis will come with open arms.
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Post by rincon Sun 29 Jan - 22:45:50

He is 22 and got frustrated. I'm sure he will apologize to Allegri and it will be over.

Didn't Mandzukic just had an outburst for being subbed like a month ago? Players like them are very competitive and always do it all for the win. Let him learn and grow of it.
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Post by DeviAngel Sun 29 Jan - 23:16:43

Mandzukic is allowing us to play this formation he brings balance to it, without him we are not going to play it or maybe we'll see rincin or Lemina there. and ffs Allegri Pjaca is a winger.
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Post by DeviAngel Sun 29 Jan - 23:18:06

Dybala is playing poorly second game in a row. He needs to be angry at himself not the coach.
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Post by salmano9 Mon 30 Jan - 4:57:36

DeviAngel wrote:Dybala is playing poorly second game in a row. He needs to be angry at himself not the coach.

That is true...He wasn't there in the game yesterday...
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Post by juventus101 Tue 31 Jan - 0:56:16

Havent been able to watch a Juve game in a while now. About a month and a half. We're playing now with a 4-2-3-1 with Mandzukic and Higuian? Hows that work? So its basically a 4-4-2 with overly attacking-minded wingers? And Marchisio-Pjanic in the middle or what? Which CBs?
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Post by rincon Tue 31 Jan - 1:22:36

Its a 4-4-2.

Oddly enough Mandzukic is not overly attacking as a winger, Cuadrado makes the most runs forward of the two. Probably because Cuadrado has the pace to recover his position quickly. Mandzukic mostly defends with his crazy workrate and plays it simple, his biggest attacking contribution coming from heading long balls to Higuain and Dybala. Cuadrado is who he has always been.

Khedira-Pjanic in the middle since Marchisio got injured (thats when we switched). Both work great in this scheme. Khedira looks good again after underperforming for a while, he looks much more at home.

Chiellini-Bonucci for the most part. Barzagli played RB one game since Licht was suspended. Rugani played for Chiellini in the coppa. Asamoah filled in very well for Sandro in a couple of games.

Higuain - Dybala

Mandzukic - Khedira - Pjanic - Cuadrado

Sandro - Chiellini - Bonucci - Lichtsteiner

The effect of the change has been absurd. In all 3 games we went 2 goals up in the opening 25 minutes. Higuain seems to love it (in terms of how his play has been), Dybala not as much. All in all everyone has been playing great in these 3 games.
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Post by DeviAngel Wed 1 Feb - 4:29:39

Mandzukic started his career as LW/B
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