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Post by rincon Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:49 pm

I'll go into depression if Berardi joins Inter ffs :facepalm:
Bernardeschi would be great since he can play anywhere.

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Post by salmano9 Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:46 pm

Juventus (3-5-2): Neto; Benatia, Bonucci, Chiellini; Cuadrado, Lemina Marchisio, Pjanic, Evra; Mandzukic, Higuain
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Post by Andrew Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:07 pm

Mandzukic - Higuain ffs, what century is this. Might as well go back to pairing Iaquinta and Amauri

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Post by rincon Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:00 pm

Dybala and Pjaca are injured. Cuadrado is already playing. Thats basically all our attackers lol.

I hope we are comfortable in the game so later on we can see Kean.
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Post by Andrew Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:11 pm

I know mate but I'd prefer a formation change than to pair these 2 but if Allegri chose to pair them, then he must have seen something.

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Post by rincon Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:34 pm

I'd play Sandro at LW if he wasn't needed for the two upcoming games.

I understand the reasoning from Allegri. If Sandro is resting and the rest are injured then its what we have. The other choice would be playing Litchsteiner and putting Cuadrado as an SS beind Higuain or Mandzukic. Not sure what is better.
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Post by rincon Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:15 pm

reports of muscle problems to Pjanic and Benatia during the final training, a 4-4-2 is possible

Neto; Evra, Bonucci, Barzagli, Litchsteiner; Sandro, Marchisio, Khedira, Cuadrado; Mandzukic, Higuain

I'm expecting 10000 crosses tonight.
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Post by salmano9 Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:26 pm

Pjanic and Benatia are cleared off Muscle injuries thank god.

Reports say it is a 4-4-3 with Higuain in the wing, but I think it will be more like a 4312 with Cuadrado alternating between left and right.

Official line up: Juventus (4-3-3): Neto; Dani Alves, Bonucci, Chiellini, Evra; Pjanic, Khedira, Marchisio; Cuadrado,Mandzukic, Higuain.

To be honest, this is the best midfield we could ever use with MKP. Hopefully Marchisio will stay injury free. If Dybala was there, 433 could probably be a killer with cuadrado constantly switching flanks.
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Post by rincon Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:37 pm

Lets see what Cuadrado can do with a free role, I doubt that Higuain will play much at LW. If anyone will its Mandzukic like we did back then with Cuadrado-Morata-Mandzukic
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Post by rincon Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:54 pm

Mandzukic scoring and dribbling people like nothing!

Also what a ball from Cuadrado for the assist, amazing.
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Post by salmano9 Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:27 pm

Injuries are raining on us.
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Post by salmano9 Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:45 pm

Forza Juve Forza Marchisio!
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Post by DeviAngel Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:50 pm

Formation changed, Marchisio is back, we win 4-1 everything is slowly coming back as it should be, don't worry next time guys Smile
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Post by rincon Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:53 pm

Was that really a formation change though? Dani Alves played RCB the whole game, it was still a 3-5-2.

That was a beautiful match. Marchisio, Pjanic, Cuadrado and Mandzukic Molenation

Bonucci was great too but he is always good. Evra was very good as well.

Only negative was Higuain, probably his first bad game for us.
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Post by salmano9 Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:06 pm

No Marchisio, No Party. As simple as that right? Smile

I am actually worried tbh. Our injuries are really not going well. Pjaca out for another month probably. Mandzu-Higuain upfront makes no sense, but it fortunately worked this game.

Our midfield is improving with Marchisio, but Pjanic was almost invisible apart from his set pieces and his goal tbh. I expect more composure from him. Maybe it was true that he had a slight muscular problem? Marchisio was absolute class. The goal against us was Dani Alves fault. Where was he covering that RCB role? Dani Alves as a CB? A huge no for me. Asamoah, this player has no place at Juve anymore IMO, just a depth player, nothing more. Alex Sandro, a beast.

The thing that worries the most is that we can win easily in Serie A against those smaller teams, whereas we fail to beat the big guns. Moreover, in Europe it is worse too, because we expend a lot of energy and we still play badly (Ex. Lyon and Sevilla).
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Post by juve_gigi Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:28 pm

What injury problem? Am I missing something? We only have two guys out now, Dybala and Pjaca. All the rest of the guys are back.

Marchisio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by DeviAngel Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:31 pm

rincon wrote:Was that really a formation change though? Dani Alves played RCB the whole game, it was still a 3-5-2.

That was a beautiful match. Marchisio, Pjanic, Cuadrado and Mandzukic Molenation

Bonucci was great too but he is always good. Evra was very good as well.

Only negative was Higuain, probably his first bad game for us.


Yup there was, often I saw back 4, 2 in midfield 3 behind Mandzukic, then we changed 442, then 4-3-3 and we defended in 352 shape and this time unlike the other games we were changing formations so fluid.

I often saw Sandro, Higgy, Cuadrado behind Mandzu in the 2nd half, when they had the ball we played 442/4231 with pressing them high in their court, when we attacked it was 424, in defense 352.

Bonucci was bad in the previous 3 games but I don't mind that his son comes first as family is always above everything.


Higuain was doing the best he could he had no balls delivered to him.
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Post by rincon Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:31 pm

Dybala, Pjaca, Mandragora, Evra, Benatia (?)
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Post by DeviAngel Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:34 pm

salmano9 wrote:No Marchisio, No Party. As simple as that right? Smile

I am actually worried tbh. Our injuries are really not going well. Pjaca out for another month probably. Mandzu-Higuain upfront makes no sense, but it fortunately worked this game.

Our midfield is improving with Marchisio, but Pjanic was almost invisible apart from his set pieces and his goal tbh. I expect more composure from him. Maybe it was true that he had a slight muscular problem? Marchisio was absolute class. The goal against us was Dani Alves fault. Where was he covering that RCB role? Dani Alves as a CB? A huge no for me. Asamoah, this player has no place at Juve anymore IMO, just a depth player, nothing more. Alex Sandro, a beast.

The thing that worries the most is that we can win easily in Serie A against those smaller teams, whereas we fail to beat the big guns. Moreover, in Europe it is worse too, because we expend a lot of energy and we still play badly (Ex. Lyon and Sevilla).


Panic attack much? Yes Smile
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Post by DeviAngel Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:36 pm

rincon wrote:Dybala, Pjaca, Mandragora, Evra, Benatia (?)


Benatia is fine and fit it was precaution it seems, Evra should be fit right before Lyon according to the commentator, Dybala and Pjaca are the only one who'll be little more out. Mandragora was never first team player or anything close to it for us trust me, Hernanes, Asamoah hell even Sturaro would play ahead of him, not that I like that but that would happen.
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Post by rincon Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:36 pm

DeviAngel wrote:Yup there was, often I saw back 4, 2 in midfield 3 behind Mandzukic, then we changed 442, then 4-3-3 and we defended in 352 shape and this time unlike the other games we were changing formations so fluid.  

I often saw Sandro, Higgy, Cuadrado behind Mandzu in the 2nd half, when they had the ball we played 442/4231 with pressing them high in their court, when we attacked it was 424, in defense 352.


This is the case in most of our good games with the 3-5-2. You could clearly see that Alves was not pushing forward and played RCB, Chiellini as usual was our CB that made most pushes up.

Alves was Barzagli today. Played as RCB and then RB as needed but very restrained.

Cuadrado and Sandro made up a line with Higuain behind Mandzukic as you say. But thats the same as when Dybala plays.

-------------Higuain
Sandro----------Dybala----Alves/Cuadrado

is how we always end up in attack. This was our good version of the 3-5-2.
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Post by rincon Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:39 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
rincon wrote:Dybala, Pjaca, Mandragora, Evra, Benatia (?)


Mandragora was never first team player or anything close to it for us trust me, Hernanes, Asamoah hell even Sturaro would play ahead of him, not that I like that but that would happen.


It doesn't matter, he is in our first team. Occupies one of the spots and is injured. We need as many fit players as possible.
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Post by lucianomoggi Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:09 pm

yep

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Post by juve_gigi Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:33 pm

Every injured player including Mandragora will be back in November...
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Post by salmano9 Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:38 pm

juve_gigi wrote:Every injured player including Mandragora will be back in November...

Didn't Allegri say something like February?

Mandragora would have been given the chance to fill the Regista role instead of Hernanes IMO.
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Post by DeviAngel Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:38 pm

rincon wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:Yup there was, often I saw back 4, 2 in midfield 3 behind Mandzukic, then we changed 442, then 4-3-3 and we defended in 352 shape and this time unlike the other games we were changing formations so fluid.  

I often saw Sandro, Higgy, Cuadrado behind Mandzu in the 2nd half, when they had the ball we played 442/4231 with pressing them high in their court, when we attacked it was 424, in defense 352.


This is the case in most of our good games with the 3-5-2. You could clearly see that Alves was not pushing forward and played RCB, Chiellini as usual was our CB that made most pushes up.

Alves was Barzagli today. Played as RCB and then RB as needed but very restrained.

Cuadrado and Sandro made up a line with Higuain behind Mandzukic as you say. But thats the same as when Dybala plays.

-------------Higuain
Sandro----------Dybala----Alves/Cuadrado

is how we always end up in attack. This was our good version of the 3-5-2.


What I learned under Allegri is that we play 3-4 formations per game and always switch up.
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