So who exactly is going to stop Juve from winning CL next season?

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Post by Turok_TTZ Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:55 pm

Where is this unfounded confidence coming from? Juventus are still pretenders. It will be some time before they can be considered legit contenders for the CL title. Juventus do not yet have a frontline comparable to Real Madrid, Barcelona, or Bayern. need at least 3 legit goal threats.

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Post by Lucifer Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:56 pm

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My second favourite, anyone but Juventus. Those boo boos would choke. No matter what squad they have, they'll choke.

No they won't Doc. They just signed Higuain.

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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:02 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Higuain lmao, and the loonies payed 100M for it. rofl


Stop the spamming, there's a thread for Higuain no need to spam the same thing all over again everywhere.

This is my final warning,
Since when was opinion spamming? I see RG spamming Fakenaldo shit everywhere, where's his warning?
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Post by Lucifer Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:03 pm

Turok_TTZ wrote:Where is this unfounded confidence coming from? Juventus are still pretenders. It will be some time before they can be considered legit contenders for the CL title. Juventus do not yet have a frontline comparable to Real Madrid, Barcelona, or Bayern. need at least 3 legit goal threats.

Atleti don't have those things and yet they have got better of those clubs in recent years.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:08 pm

Need 3 goal threats? No you don't. Unless somebody can link me to some stats showing how 100% of CL trophies have been won with the winners using a front 3, all 3 of which scoring a lot of CL goals in the process.


Didn't realise all of these managers had is so wrong, when all you need to do really is play a 4-3-3 and spend 95% of your budget on 3 attackers, ignoring the rest.
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Post by Luca Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:08 pm

Stop jinxing us fam

Bayern, Barca, Real Madrid are still the top 3. Stylistically, we match up better against Real in my opinion. Bayern is hard to judge as they now have a new manager but I don't expect Ancelotti to do a poor job. If Juventus lose Pogba and don't address that gap in the midfield then Barcelona would probably body us.

Then there's Atletico that had a strong market and are a strong team but I think we actually match up well with them.

PSG will be good with Emery and their midfield with Verratti/Krychowiak will be very strong, they are being written off too early I believe.

We are tier 3 elite underdogs (:

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Post by urbaNRoots Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:29 pm

Barça, Atletico, Real Madrid and Bayern can all stop Juventus.

But Juve are certainly among these teams now.
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Post by juve_gigi Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:06 pm

Juve are among the favourites. Have been for 2 years now. CL final in 2014. Lost in last minute to Bayern in 2015.

We are a completely different team in CL with EuroMax. I don't expect any difference this year. We will be right in the mix along with Real, Barca, Bayern and Athletico.

The draw is the key for all those teams.  Last year the draw killed us. This year could be different. It should be an interesting year for sure.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:07 pm

Talking about being CL favourites and how the draw killed you in the same breath doesn't make sense.
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:12 pm

How does signing the biggest choker in football right now make them the unquestionable favorites suddenly?

Decent thread for future banter though.
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Post by juve_gigi Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:36 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Talking about being CL favourites and how the draw killed you in the same breath doesn't make sense.


Even the best teams need a little luck. Real got lucky last year and had an easy draw all the way to the final. Juve had to play Bayern in the round of 16.

Of course if you are a favourite it shouldn't matter who you play, but a favourable draw always helps.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:40 pm

juve_gigi wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Talking about being CL favourites and how the draw killed you in the same breath doesn't make sense.


Even the best teams need a little luck. Real got lucky last year and had an easy draw all the way to the final. Juve had to play Bayern in the round of 16.

Of course if you are a favourite it shouldn't matter who you play, but a favourable draw always helps.


The first order of business would be to win your group tbh
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Post by juve_gigi Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:27 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
juve_gigi wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:Talking about being CL favourites and how the draw killed you in the same breath doesn't make sense.


Even the best teams need a little luck. Real got lucky last year and had an easy draw all the way to the final. Juve had to play Bayern in the round of 16.

Of course if you are a favourite it shouldn't matter who you play, but a favourable draw always helps.


The first order of business would be to win your group tbh


This is true. That is where Juve screwed up. If they had won their group they could have went all the way to the final.
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Post by Glory Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:31 pm

Leicester. :coffee:

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:32 pm

Let us all calma here

Winning the tactically embarrassing Donk3y league is a far stretch from doing something in the CL
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Post by Lucifer Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:36 pm

juve_gigi wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
juve_gigi wrote:

Even the best teams need a little luck. Real got lucky last year and had an easy draw all the way to the final. Juve had to play Bayern in the round of 16.

Of course if you are a favourite it shouldn't matter who you play, but a favourable draw always helps.


The first order of business would be to win your group tbh


This is true. That is where Juve screwed up. If they had won their group they could have went all the way to the final.

Ya and if I had been dating Emma Watson I would be getting a blowjob from her right now instead of jacking off to Japanese porn. Well coulda would shouda I guess.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:36 pm

If you ask me you got the better end game.
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Post by Lucifer Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:43 pm

Sadly ur right Tom. But look on brighter side, I can mute my GF can you? Not many can tbh

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:44 pm

I tried once but the judge told me that grievous bodily harm was illegal or something like that.
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Post by Lucifer Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:52 pm

Agree. Judges can be spoilsport sometimes like get a life or something u scrubs. Whatever happened to live and let live ffs.

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Post by rwo power Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:04 pm

Okay folks, back to topic now and please try to stay polite!
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Post by Sri Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:35 pm

Sri wrote:Goddamit.


Leicester and Raineri got this.


Glory wrote:Leicester. :coffee:


:coffee:

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Post by Robespierre Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:14 pm

^ Besides following the logic of " the draw killed us " , anyone could remind Juve got the CL final 2014 after facing the worst Dortmund ever and Monaco . Everything is relative.
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Post by juve_gigi Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:56 am

Robespierre wrote:^ Besides following the logic of " the draw killed us " , anyone could remind Juve got the CL final 2014 after facing the worst Dortmund ever and Monaco . Everything is relative.


Yes but we beat the defending champion Real Madrid in the semi finals so we were deserving of making it to the final. You can't say that about Madrid this year. They played Roma, Wolsburg and ManCity to get to the final. And then won on penalty kicks.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:18 am

Man City won the group ahead of you. Stop it, you're not getting anywhere, Gigi.
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Post by Ion Creanga Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:04 am

Robespierre wrote:^ Besides following the logic of " the draw killed us " , anyone could remind Juve got the CL final 2014 after facing the worst Dortmund ever and Monaco . Everything is relative.


it's 2015.

Monaco was a very good team back than, we had more troubles with Monaco than Madrid.

And yes, it's our fault that we couldn't win the group despite beating City twice, because we couldn't beat fcking Moenchengladbach.

And also, disallowing a 1 meter onside goal at Bayern didn't help either.
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